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Well I've just been denied access to a thread on another forum I use

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Malificence · 14/03/2011 11:19

One that I've been a member of for 10+ years - there is a thread from a woman asking about how others would feel if they found out their husband had taken their 18 year old son to a lap dancing club and paid for him to have private dances as a bithday present.
The vast majority of posters, probably slightly more women than men, thought it was no big deal and a bit of harmless fun.
The thread starter has explained that it sickened her and I think she was looking for validation that her feelings weren't wrong, instead she had people telling her that boys will be boys and that all men do it, basically she should just shut up and accept it. Angry
Of course I offered my support to her along with my opinion of men and women who think it's perfectly fine.

I had my access to the thread denied because it's a "family" forum ( dedicated to holidays in Orlando mainly) because I dared to use the word vagina .
Yet there were people on that thread saying how their sons and husbands had gone to live sex shows in Amsterdam and it "wasn't a problem" and it's "no different to watching the Chippendales" Hmm .
A couple of people also used the cliche, " I bet you don't think your husband watches porn either".

Do the majority of people out there really think lap dancing clubs are harmless fun?

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HerMajestiesSecretCervix · 14/03/2011 11:21

No, I don't think they are harmless.

AyeRobot · 14/03/2011 11:28

I think the majority probably do think that, yes. Of course, they are wrong and a bit thick. Grin

JessinAvalon has done some sterling work in this area if you do a search on her name in this section.

higgle · 14/03/2011 12:08

I think the potential they have for causing harm is too high to allow them to operate. I'm sure a lot of the dancers are highly educated sensible girls who use the money to fund their education and I'm alos sure a lot of the people who attend are not seedy types. If my DH wanted to go to one I'd be surprised but not censorious. If he wanted to take our teenaged sons I'd consider this inappropriate.

I feel the potential for harm and introduction of the dancers to possible prostitution/drug use/ physical danger is just too great when you balance it against the "no harm" scenario above.

aliceliddell · 14/03/2011 15:19

Those libertarians have been such a boon. Of course it's not harmless. Unless you think its harmless to teach boys that womens bodies exist for men's 'sexual' entertainment, and the inly power women will ever get involves denial of their own sexual needs and titillation/witholding 'sexual' pleasure for men. Basically, I don't cre if individual women want to do it; they are harming the rest of us.

Unrulysun · 14/03/2011 18:17

Can you tell us what this 'family friendly' Internet site is?

hogsback · 14/03/2011 18:25

No, they're not harmless. And I know many men, particularly younger men, who refuse to go to them for corporate entertainment - a complete reversal from 10 years ago when even women would go in order to appear "one of the lads." In my industry, it is nowseen as something that only sad old farts do and no bloke under the age of 35 would set foot in one.

GlynisIsFixed · 14/03/2011 18:30

I'd like to know more about this 'family' forum too, PM me if you'd rather not post the name here and I'll gladly join up to back up this woman Grin

Malificence · 14/03/2011 19:43

It's the DIBB website chat forum, unfortunately the whole thread has been made private, it's not even there under the posters user name any more, you can find it in todays convos under "how would you feel" but it just says "moved".
The weird thing is that I'm a paid meber/pass holder for the forums, but I have no idea where it could be as I can't find it in the private lounge.

If you want a thread to take issue with, the MSE (moneysaving and family section)board has a thread about strippers and relationships, some of the attitudes on there are mind boggling!

That's heartening to hear hogsback - 10+ years ago my DH was hauled over the coals by his then boss for refusing to take prospective clients to a local lap dancing club, but then this same boss turned a blind eye to one of DH's engineers using his company credit card in a massage parlour, DH wanted to sack him but got over ruled, DH left shortly afterwards, he simply couldn't work with and for people like that.

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dittany · 14/03/2011 19:51

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Grumpla · 14/03/2011 20:32

Well that's bloody depressing Malificence. Can you still message her or are you locked out entirely? Perhaps you could tempt her over here? It would be awful if she were to think that she was in the wrong about this.

That is good news hogsback.

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