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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Pop Culture Feminists besides Pink?

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suwoo · 25/02/2011 21:58

I am doing a little introductory presentation to my seminar group (I'm a mature student) this week on feminist literary and cultural theory. I have started chronologically with Mary Wollstonecraft, then Virginia woolf, then Kate Millet and finally (so far) Germaine Greer.

I have been inspired by the thread on here today about Pink, so will include the Stupid Girls lyrics. Any other feminist contemporary figures I can refer to, to keep the interest of the kids?

I am putting two images on my handouts this one and the one at the bottom of this blog page

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suwoo · 25/02/2011 22:41

They are lovely to my face, but I be they do that accompanied by this face Hmm when I've gone. They piss themselves at my 90s house cds in the car. bastards

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Prolesworth · 25/02/2011 22:42

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suwoo · 25/02/2011 22:42

Yeah Tracey Emin, good one. Its not meant to be anything to do with contemporary culture, I just thought it would help their understanding and be more appealing to them after going on about Mary Wollestonecraft.

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AliceWorld · 25/02/2011 22:42

But remember retro is cool too. They're secretly impressed Wink

BertieBotts · 25/02/2011 22:44

I'm 22 and wouldn't have heard of Spitting Image had we not covered it in Media A Level (Yes I know, Media A Level... nobody told me it was a bad idea.) Only have a vague idea of NKOTB. Those are both 80s things - remember your students will have been born in the early 90s! Grin I've definitely heard of Jo Brand.

Ditto Ani DiFranco - heard of her through MN and love her but most people my age wouldn't have heard of her.

I love KT Tunstall and she comes across as pretty confident, independent, not specifically feminist but nothing unfeminist about her either (if that makes sense at all.) Will find a couple of good examples.

suwoo · 25/02/2011 22:44

Well, they might like some of The Word clips I suppose. We can pretend that they're impressed, eh.

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suwoo · 25/02/2011 22:45

Yep my new friends were born in 91 and 92.

Wink
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suwoo · 25/02/2011 22:46

The same year I lost my virginity Wink. Yes, I could be their mother. Although I don't look old enough. Grin

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razors · 25/02/2011 22:47

This is hard isn't it???? Here we are in 2011 struggling to find independent strong minded women in the pop industry :(

AliceWorld · 25/02/2011 22:48

(Bertie, there is nothing wrong with a media A' level. Don't let that subject bashing get to you. It's crap.)

Isn't someone from NKOTB now an actor? (Trying to help increase your cool factor here)

AliceWorld · 25/02/2011 22:49

"Donald Wahlberg was a member of New Kids on the Block. He is an actor and has appeared in The Sixth Sense, Saw II, Saw III, amongst others."

I knew we were cool Grin

Tell them about the days before the interweb too...

StewieGriffinsMom · 25/02/2011 22:53

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southeastastra · 25/02/2011 22:57

you could have more artists and desingers rather than pop groups though

middle class girls don't really do that now do they when punk women bands generally were a bit posh Grin

BertieBotts · 25/02/2011 23:11

My media A Level WAS a bad idea. The teachers were terrible and I walked out after getting fed up with constant tittering and

BertieBotts · 25/02/2011 23:15

Oh sorry. I forgot to find examples of KT Tunstall, having just realised she's currently touring. Sold out in my local town sadly :( But playing in Birmingham on the 3rd March :) Trying to work out if I can stretch to the tickets now...

JessinAvalon · 25/02/2011 23:28

Annie Lennox

She co-wrote "Sisters Are Doin' It For Themselves", intended to be a feminist anthem.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisters_Are_Doin%27_It_for_Themselves

www.huffingtonpost.com/marianne-schnall/annie-lennox-raises-her-v_b_117986.html

"Well, some of us may have a powerful voice in Western countries, but women in the South often have very little voice in comparison with men. However, saying that, at the same time, when women get together as a group, it's immensely powerful. And I get very frustrated when I hear women saying oh, feminism is passe. Because I think feminism means empowerment. Men can be feminists too! Many men are feminists. We need feminism. It's not against men. It's about the empowerment of women. It's the respect of women. Giving women equal rights, the same opportunities. Women are the mothers. We have to value and respect mothers."

TryLikingClarity · 25/02/2011 23:36

DH and I went to see Ani Di Franco last month in concert - SHE WAS AMAZING!

What about Courtney Love? A bit of a space cadet maybe, but does things her own way.

Tarrie B is a feminist - she was my gothy metal girl crush during my teenage years :)

JessinAvalon · 25/02/2011 23:39

Sisters are doing it for themselves:

Now, there was a time
when they used to say
that behind ev'ry great man,
there had to be a great woman.
But oh, in these times of change,
you know that it's no longer true.
So we're comin' out of the kitchen,
'cause there's something we forgot to say to you.
We say, Sisters are doin' it for themselves,
standin' on their own two feet
and ringin' on their own bells.
We say, Sisters are doin' it
for themselves.
Now, this is a song to celebrate
the conscious liberation of the female state.
Mothers, daughters,
and their daughters too, woh yeah,
woman to woman,
we're singing with you, ooh, ooh.
The "inferior sex" has got a new exterior.
We got doctors, lawyers, politicians too,
ooh ooh ooh, ooh.
Ev'rybody, take a look around.
Can you see, can you see, can you see,
there's a woman right next to youo
We say, Sisters are doin' it for themselves,
standin' on their own two feet
and ringin' on their own bells.
Sisters are doin' it
for themselves.
Now we ain't makin' stories,
and we ain't layin' plans.
Don't you know that a man still loves a woman,
and a woman still loves a man
just the same, though.

TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 25/02/2011 23:46

I think Salma Hayek identifies as a feminist.

Madonna?????

TryLikingClarity · 25/02/2011 23:56

Nina Simone (in my view) was a feminist.

God rest her soul, she was a great talent!

nailak · 25/02/2011 23:59

christina aguilerra...for stronger and beautiful, true she was a bit wild before that but she was a girl growing up...

upsydaisysexstylist · 26/02/2011 07:35

Not sure about Lily Allen. "it's not fair" makes me scream at the radio, if he's so bloody lovely ( ringing lots sounds creepy to me)educate him in the sex department. Mind you I can rant for a very long time about sex not being like a Jackie Collins book.

Thinking about this is depressing a bit of an all my heros are dead moment. Only person I can think of is Lauren Laverne

TryLikingClarity · 26/02/2011 11:49

Has anyone mentioned Beth Ditto yet?

This is my ummm, 3rd post on this thread Blush am maybe thinking too deeply about this.

Prolesworth · 26/02/2011 12:18

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TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 26/02/2011 12:32

PJ Harvey???