Nicola Horlick says she is not a feminist. Does Nicola Horlick know what a feminist is??

[stillstanding]

Am completely confused .... see article

I mean it's pretty nonsensical for anyone semi-conscious to say they are'nt a feminist but for HER to say it? And in the same breath as calling for quotas to get more women in boardrooms??

It's just daft. Am actually quite cross ...

jesus wept a pseudo-worthy well read bullying circle.no thanks

been invited a few.lets read/discuss xyz literature and when folk didnt concur it got quite nippy. all a bit my way or the intellectual highway

what was supposed to be stimulating discussion,free expression- all got bit fraught

I was in more than one, Dittany. But those were the days when women strove to be supportive towards one another. I certainly wouldn't start such a thread on here.

"those were the days when women strove to be supportive towards one another"

I don't believe that women were any more suportive towards one another twenty/ thirty/ forty years ago, than they are now.

Some women will have been, some won't. Same as now. MN is incredibly good at supporting women looking for support and then you'll always get a few arses sneering at someone needing that support. That's always been the way.

HerBeX I have to say my experience is different. twenty, thirty years ago they was a hardcore of women committed to the 'sisterhood' - it meant something in a way that it doesn't now, for this generation.

Yes but do that hardcore of women not exist any more?

I don't think there was a bygone age of higher support and sisterhood.politics, engagement and awareness will always be variable and dependent upon whom participates.mn draws from range of individuals so a range of opinions emerge.but that's its strength,that it has range and depth of pov and not just chin stroking and affirmation

No, I don't believe that hardcore of women exist anymore in the next generation.
Yes, I do believe for my generation, being politically active (whether you were male or female) meant to be self-consciously, specifically, explicitly supportive of changing the status quo and supporting women's rights.

I am a secondary school teacher and I would say that teenage girls are far less radical/politicised than my generation. What characterises this generation is the idea that equality has been achieved, and there is no issue for feminists to worry about
hahaha

Ah well, our daughters will know better, won't they?

I BLOODY HOPE SO!

None of the feminists have supported the OP on the bulling thread, for example. Some have joined in with giving her a damn good kicking.

Being a feminist used to involve a degree of self-awareness. Now feminism seems to be more institutionalised narcissism - 'I am a feminist so everyone must agree with whatever's in my head.'

There also used to be the astonishing principle that another woman's viewpoint was as valid as your own.

Well I consider myself to be a feminist, all for equal rights etc but I am not anti porn and often on MN I am made to feel that I can not possible be a feminist as I don't want porn to be banned/illegal.

Maybe feminism means different things to different women.

Respecting another woman's viewpoint as valid doesn't mean you have to agree with them.

What do you actually mean by respect in this context?

I respect the right of another woman to hold an opposing view to mine. I don't necessarily have to respect that viewpoint though.

See, flying into a rage because another woman disagrees with you could be seen as narcissistic. In the real world, it should be OK for people to have views different from yours.

"I am not a feminist" from Nicola Horlick doesn't mean she doesn't understand the definition - it means that she thinks admitting to being a feminist will be unhelpful to her.