Burlesque is it grotesque?

[claig]

Very sad state of affairs, burlesque becoming mainstream

Burlesque it's just grotesque

have never been to burlesque but it isnt empowering to women who are selling a product sex.and no amount of fancy discourse or blah blah about the woman choses this makes it anything other than sleazy.an industry driven by men.lets face it if the clammy bastards didnt but it no one would sell it

'Any men there MJ?'

loads in the audience, beer-bellies and all. They paid lots of money to watch the empowered dancers.

rebranding burlesque is like polishing a turd.never works.still shite

Maybe because the stripping element is objectionable thus interesting for discussion?

So there were equal numbers of men stripping? Or were the male acts generally doing acts that meant they were disempowered enough to remain fully clothed?

I did find Burlesque interesting at first. But then I kind of just saw it for what it really is tbh. Burlesque isn't famous for it's variety acts.

I had the good fortune not to be there.

Presumably there are other acts, just like in a circus. The article mentions typical circus type acts like fire-eating etc. Then there is the band and the comedians, so that the middle class lawyers and bankers on company dos can feel that this isn't a sleazy strip club like the one that the non-politically correct premodern working class go too. This is burlesque and the prices prove that it is different.

because burlesque is like stripping sexual titillation for money.astonished any buys its re-branding as retro or entertainment

scottishmummy

have never been to burlesque

Thank you that's all we need to know

Obviously if you're going to start out by defining burlesque as a form of striptease you just make it imposssible to have a rational argument. It's like someone who defines an orange as a kind of apple and when you offer to show them an orange they refuse to look at it

David51, we haven't been, but Penny Wark of the Daily mail dod go and she said

"The other is that a pert young blonde, ­pretentiously known as Ruby Deshabille, has just removed her clothes in the company of 240 City professionals, who are tucking into a roast dinner. She is wearing nipple ­tassels and not much else, and is the second pert young blonde to undress this evening.
Before the spectators have finished their roast, a third pert young blonde appears. Within three minutes her kit is on the floor and she is jiggling her voluptuous assets for our delectation. Remarkably, it is only 9pm."

david - you're acting like people can't have an opinion unless they've been there done that which is obviously bollocks. basically you're just being defensive without actually engaging anyones arguments.

david ive never been on fox hunt but find that distasteful. your point is lame, i dont need to have experienced something to not get it

'If you think it is the province of middle aged bankers and lawyers, then you are very much mistaken.'

You are right, I don't know much about it, except what I read. I didn't know it had spread even further into the mainstream than I thought.

I've just looked at the website for the company mentioned in the article and they describe it as a mix of burlesque and cabaret. I am sure that there are all different types of burlesque.

mj - you went to a burlesque show where all the men on stage remained fully dressed and performed acts other than dancing. The women did the dancing in various states of undress? Is that right?

But the dancers were all women and they were in various states of undress while dancing? And the men didn't remove any clothes they had on?