How depressing

[MistressMaker]

I'm 32 with 2 DC.

Went to a club the other week which I never do, at the end of a girly night out with friends.

On the dance floor I had my bum slapped repeatedly by a guy of probably no more than 22.

First time I ignored it, assuming mistaken identity, second time it happened I was pissed off and third time I turned round and told him to stop it. To be fair to him he did look mortified and very shamefaced.

Anyway, was telling my 37 year old friend (also a mother) about it - just in general when debriefing the night out, talking about how clubs make me feel old and she said it was "quite flattering really".

Some men are always going to think it's ok to intimately touch strange women if some women think it is ok, aren't they?

Yes.

In a word.

How depressing that a 22 year old is doing that. Let's hope he's a one off creep, not a typical example of his generation.

Well also, they don't do it because you're pretty anyway.

They do it because you're a random woman and they can. It's not a compliment and it's a bit sad and pathetic to see it as one.

Thanks, that's good to hear.

I ranted a bit to the friends I was with at the time and they probably thought I was totally over-reacting.

I hate that shit though, I really, really do.

Reminded me of when I was about 18/19 first going to clubs. Living in probably not the most progressive of countries at the time (Ireland).

I used to dance all night staring at the floor because if you even so much as dared to look up so bloke would catch your eye and then just kind of grab you and attach himself to you.

I hated it at the time but used avoidance rather than saying anything.

I'm older and more confident now and wouldn't for a moment put up with it, just a shame women think you should

Terribly low aspirations for women isn't it, the idea that you should get a boost to your self-esteem from some random person with a dick expressing a belief that he has the right to intrude on your personal space becuse he finds you attractive?

Are we really supposed to be so lacking in self-esteem, that we gratefully accept these crumbs of male approval?

My god, it's a spotty teenage boy's fantasy isn't it? And how sad it is that some grown up women are so groomed, that they accept that view of the world and how men interract with women?