So, are you attracted to 'feminist nightmare' blokes? If so, does it annoy or amuse you?

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I hope this is ok, I fancied a light-hearted thread for saturday night, and with luck some of you will still be aware to help me ponder.

DH has just introduced me to Ashes to Ashes and obviously (er ... for a MNer ...), I went and searched out the Telly thread on here. I discover that masses of apparently sane women have huge crushes on Gene Hunt, who (in case you don't know), plays a sort of caricature 1970s misogynist/sex pest.

And I sort of know what they mean.

I wondered how many of us who are feminists, do feel attracted to the very 'wrong' men? Is it excusable because it's a fantasy or should we be having strong words with ourselves?

Discuss.

Nah he seems good now, when presumably in the show he is rushing around beating up criminals and wotnot. But if he was sitting on the sofa farting, watching snooker and clicking his fingers when he needed more beer, you'd soon wish him back in the past.

I can't see him in that light anyway, I remember him as Dobbin in Vanity Fair where he was about as far from Gene Hunt as it's possible to get.

Thats a good quote eam, I'd give anything to be bossed about(well for a bit). I'm sick of being the one responsible, surely I'm still a child .

Actually could well tie in to certain proclivities lol.

I like a challenge My DH is definitely not a bastard- he does housework, he does childcare...but he has definite ideas that are For example, he doesn't like books where women are the main character, but he owns Ellen MacArthur's book about her sailing round the world, and he has a (grudging!) respect for her. He completely consents to the fact that I am more intelligent than him (well, goes without saying ), but still will argue with me about politics/ current affairs etc and think he is right, even though his argument doesn't stand up.

My last BF before DH was lovely, but a bit...wishy-washy. I am a strong women, and need a strong man to be my template. I felt my last BF allowed me to be in charge of everything, which was wearing, tbh. I ended up feeling more like his mother than his partner.

Oh yes I agree on the politics thing. I asked my dp about the details of the American mid-terms. He actually bullshitted for about 5 minutes before he admitted he had no clue. That is such a Man thing to do, bullshit on topics you have no clue about. If dp asked me a question and I didn't know the answer, I would say so and direct him to google.

I am perfectly capable of googling my own answers, when dp doesn't pretend to have them for some bizarre reason.

Elephants, that is a very good point! (And, Dobbin? Wow, nice way to put me off! [grin[)

Dobbin is about as wishy washy as you can get.

I like promiscuous and androgynous as well. Russell Brand certainly doesn't count as he talks about his knob far too much to be adrogynous. I like men in eyeliner. In fact, if someone can find me a sarcastic, dark haired, blue eyed, man in eyeliner I will throw DP over like a shot

Ewww. Russell Brand.

I do like men in eyeliner, but as you say he is beyond the pale. My dear DH is very patient with the fact that I like brunettes, as he's blond - and sadly, I don't think he'd take to eyeliner

I like men in eyeliner too...
I also think arguing and sexual attraction go together...

I think women so rarely get to see really good looking men on TV that when one does pop up (in whatever role) they're going to start drooling over him.

Compare that to the constant stream of images of sexy young women that men get.

I mean women get sacked from the BBC if they look too old but they keep the old male codgers on until they're in they're dotage

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While much of what you say is true, Sakura, Gene Hunt is no George Clooney, so I'm not sure that stands up.

Right everybody go watch Velvet Goldmine and have a wibble over Jonathan Rhys Myers...

And I letched over Gene Hunt too. Partly because, just as the whole Gene Genie thing started to take off, Philip Glenister was doing the bedtime stories for the week on CBeebies, which made this total 'Bastard with a tender streak' fantasy possible. (Have no idea if Glenister had in fact recorded the bedtime stories before Life On Mars and some mischevious scheduler thought, 'Oh give the bored housewives a treat' or what).
And I have had a few great shags with men who have not exactly been feminist friendly and indeed exaggerated their sexism as a kind of pulling ritual - but I wouldn't have lived with any of them.

I do admire your separation of shagging and lurve SGB. I would behave much more like that, in an ideal world.

I don't think PG is good-looking either, he is handsomeish but warty and a little like an acne-pocked dumpling.

Ohhh isn't JRM the one who was the coach in Bend it Like Beckham? Slightly dodgy teeth?

What do people think of <a class="break-all" href="http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=celebritycellphonenumber.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/jared-leto.jpg&imgrefurl=celebritycellphonenumber.com/actor/jared-leto/&usg=__o3kCdCpcCsFe4W0o528pqkv87w4=&h=400&w=300&sz=26&hl=en&start=0&sig2=-he_kJMlq-y-KW-URlKTXA&zoom=1&tbnid=teFG_ca8qZWdNM:&tbnh=129&tbnw=97&ei=nO7dTKGAINmAhAeq7sHTDA&prev=/images%3Fq%3Djared%2Bleto%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26biw%3D1366%26bih%3D544%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=224&vpy=42&dur=226&hovh=259&hovw=194&tx=124&ty=159&oei=nO7dTKGAINmAhAeq7sHTDA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=30&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">him I have loved him since I was about 15, along with Blair Underwood and Dana Ashbrooke. Still love him now, despite the okish band, my so called life will always be Jared Leto land.

Bit of Pom, sorry I don't know who Gene Hunt is is that the gone with the wind bloke?
But yes, women are less likely to need a symmetrical/attractive face to be attracted to someone.
My gay friend thinks David Beckham is gorgeous, I just looked at him like this . ANd he laughed when he saw my face, knowing I meant 'but when he opens his mouth..." He justified it by telling me Beckham has got a 'very symmetrical face'.

and at least this thread gave SGB another chance for an anti-housewife dig

Nooo, SGB, don't say that - you'd be missing all the best bits!

I think the point here is that lots of men aren't traditionally good-looking, but we like them anyway. I agree with you about Jonathan Rhys-Meyers.

Sakura - he's an actor called Phillip Glenister, who's not at all attractive in the normal sense, but his character seems to be very attractive - despite/ because of being a misogynist pig.

eh? who's talking about housewives?

LadyFnar - totally acceptable.

SGB - is JRM sarcastic, at all?

Just been inspired by the Pulp thread to remember my adolescent lust gentle affection for him out of Placebo.

he wore eyeliner.

I can't bear the girly-looking Jonathan Rhys-Myers- especially since I read about him punching a girlfriend in the face. Yuck.

and he looks exactly like a woman, in retrospect :o

It's funny how really young girls and teenagers tend to go for men who look just like girls isn't it? I remember the total lust over the middle one from Hanson, if anyone can remember them.

I hear about a website the other day called "Lesbians Who Look Like Justin Bieber" (some singer beloved of little girls) and oh my god it actually exists :)

ee never, BoP?

What a fucker.

Now that's what I call "feminist nightmare".

Those last few seem like quite girly men to me, and Gene Hunt looks like a bastard too. I like big strong protective looking guys (preferably shaggy, bearded, and definitely not blonde), with a good dose of tragedy thrown in. Some unrequited love, or a heart breaking sacrifice perhaps. I'm quite keen on them dying too Not sure why!

I can't remember fancying any bastards, but I expect if they met all the criteria above I'd be tempted.

bit late to reply elephants, but just SGB just giving her usual jabs at normative mundane housewives who for some reason are fair game.

"Let's give the bored housewives a treat"

just those types of digs (understandably) get to me sometimes because a) wot on earth is a housewife? Does she mean women who are caring for children full time?

b) In life it's those you least expect that end up suprising you in the bedroom and elsewhere, not the ones who wear their 'edginess' on their sleeves.