Bank doesn't hire student after he asks about strip clubs

[sethstarkaddersmum]

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Interesting what the article says about the Oxford Union being an anti-woman environment - Oxford was bad enough in the early 90s but I wonder if it is even worse now.

One of the comments below (yes it is the Daily Mail!) says it is hypocrisy and the bank tolerates this behaviour once people are actually working there....

what a stupid man. Even if the bank is being hypocritical, it's good to see they won't tolerate this behaviour from potential recruits.

Yup! I imagine Morgan Stanley gave the story to the paper as it demonstrates their non-sexism (haha). All the same, I'm glad it made a feature. It might make a few oafs like him think twice.

good point Grace. Or maybe it was leaked by a disapproving fellow intern....

Do you really think he's wrecked his career? He'll no doubt get a job somewhere just as prestigious when the dust settles because so many people would read this (including people who'll be on his selection panels) and think, what's the big deal? It makes me despair that so few of us really think this is wrong.

I don't think he'll have wrecked his career either but it isn't hypocritical of the bank because he was abusing an online information service provided by Bloomberg and he was doing this at work. Completely inappropriate obviously. What their current employees do outside of work time is presumably not of the bank's interest provided it is legal.. There might be an argument that going to strip clubs is something traders do during work hours and/or with clients so the bank are being hypocritical if they don't have a problem with that, however I don't know what their official party line is on that one. I doubt they'll publicly say it is ok because it is surely Rong on a discrimination type offence for their female employees.

Well, it just goes to show that you can be massively intelligent and have no common sense whatsoever all at the same time. He sounds like a grade A moron to be "caught using the 'help' function on an online information service to ask: 'Where is a good strip club?' and 'Where's the nearest porn shop?'" whilst at work.

FWIW he is also a "self proclaimed alpha male" which we all know is short hand for being a prat.

I doubt his career is ended, he might struggle for a few months but he'll get his job somewhere. At least he won't be able to move into politics though.

I would love to see what happens re his presidency of the union. They rely on signing up lots of freshers who pay big fees to join (the Oxford Union is different from a student union, for anyone who doesn't know) and if a group of feminists in the university did some effective picketing in Freshers Week they could probably put quite a lot of women students off joining based on this issue and whatever the other issues are with it being anti-woman.

I'm guessing they didn't hire him for gross stupidity rather than out of any political correctness.

If you can't be minimally discreet while you are on an internship, then you are likely to become a liability to an employer if you ever become staff.

looks the sort that would have to rely on buying it

ah lovely, good to see my alma mater keeping up the reputation it so richly deserves for churning out misogynistic man-children.

Why, are dentists especially immune to sexist fuckwittery sprogger?

Agree with you about the good lesson though. Or I would if I didn't have the feeling that one of daddy's friends will get him a job somewhere else, and this will be seen as a badge of honour.

I assumed Sprog was referring to the fact that both his mum and dad were equally qualified and used both their incomes to help him to his position in life.

Mm, but having a WOH mother doesn't necessarily make you a nice person/non-sexist, sadly. You see on here over and over again how even in families where both parents work sexism WRT household tasks/expectations still comes through.

Morgan Stanley make a Big Deal out of their diversity and equal opps policies - like most big US internationals in my experience. My Best Gay Friend has worked there for 10 years and gets trotted out regularly to talk at their in-house diversity awareness seminars.

The realities of working life for women there is of course a different matter...

Bloomberg is a subscription service, so he was technically misusing company property, and was undoubtedly in breach of the company internet usage policy for staff. The company had to pay for his information service enquiries. How could anyone be daft enough to not realise you risk losing your job nowadays if you merely google sex-related stuff at work?

Cocky intern loses work placement = non-story. President of Oxford Union demonstrates apalling misjudgement of workplace culture = Morgan Stanley make an example of him in order to burnish their image.

'(BTW, how the hell does the son of two dentists who used their dual income to fund him through Winchester & Oxford end up a misogynist?)'

Is Winchester all-boys? If so I expect they still teach it there. It is not on the curriculum at Oxford as much as it used to be but there are plenty of opportunities to practise it in your free time.

yeah and the scary part is that the Union is like parliament in miniature. The president of the Union is practically expected to become prime minister (list of former presidents here).

In my college I'll never forget sitting in the middle of a roomful of men boys furiously arguing as to why the abortion limit should be lowered to 20 weeks or even lower. The total self-assurance was amazing and nauseating. (I did argue back by the way)

Ah, my college only got as far as mandating the Secretary to ask Will Carling what the circumference of his thighs was. We weren't exactly a politically active college...

Public school boy that objectifies women, will the torment ever end.

Brilliant just brilliant.

:o PLIMLS

Mine wasn't politically active either usually. Only in the "goodness, some gels are threatening to stop making the tea and actually have their voices heard - quick, talk over them chaps!" passive conservative way. Like being drowned in a sea of strawberries and cream.