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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

If we lived in a matriarchy...

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MavisG · 12/08/2010 09:14

What? What would it be like?

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SilaNaGeige · 12/08/2010 11:20

Just as imbalanced as a patriarchy.

I'd like to think women would try to create a fairer world but in a true matriarchy, through the dynamic of dominance alone, the root-archy belief that one gender is 'better' would still hold.

MavisG · 12/08/2010 11:26

Yes, it would be, and I'm not advocating it. Just wondering what it would look like.

I heard a piss-take of Sorry I Haven't a Clue once with Jenni Murray hosting. There was a 'Sebastian' instead of the 'Samantha' they usually use for knob jokes. I was shocked at how unusual it felt to me to hear a middle-aged woman make sexual innuendoes in this way, it really highlighted to me the level of lewdness we accept as normal when the sexes and ages are reversed.

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Sammyuni · 12/08/2010 12:42

It would most likely be just as unbalanced, it's nice to think that it would be better but to be honest i doubt that it would, it would just be different.

SilaNaGeige · 12/08/2010 14:28

Smile Owning lewd talk, occasionally, can have an amusing effect!

...If we lived in a Mat-Soc, if a woman used lewd language, would a man accuse her of objectification?

Would men's position in society force them to be more aware?

I find it hard to visualise! Confused

Excuse generalisations, that is all they are.

Vermdum · 12/08/2010 16:38

Exactly the same as it is now, since it is humanity, and not sexuality, that defines society.

TheCrackFox · 12/08/2010 16:44

Maternity hospitals would be amazing.

dittany · 12/08/2010 20:50

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scottishmummy · 12/08/2010 20:57

there is no such thing as positive discrimination,so id hate to live in a patriarchy.gender doesn't render someone likeable or ideologically palatable .the myth of sisterhood is that all us burds will just get on because we are women

OrmRenewed · 12/08/2010 20:59

There'd still be some bullying twat in love with their own importance making life hard for everyone else.

scottishmummy · 12/08/2010 21:00

that sounds like germaine greer

dittany · 12/08/2010 21:02

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scottishmummy · 12/08/2010 21:02

yes and...

quaere · 12/08/2010 21:04

Women would just become more bastardly. There is a quota of bastardliness in the world and at the moment men take up most of it. But if women had control then they would.

scottishmummy · 12/08/2010 21:16

assumption that matriarchy would be utopian halcyon days is risible.would sister maggie thatcher be one of the gerls?yeah she was really good to women

ElephantsAndMiasmas · 13/08/2010 01:05

I would rather live in a world where no gender dominated, it's a really silly thing to separate people by, in terms of who should have power and who shouldn't. Is it that hard to get that we are just people?

But if we lived in a matriarchy:

  • there would be amazing drugs invented to make period pain a thing of the past
  • dirty mags would be back in the special shops where they belong, or not exist because women would have so many opportunities that there wouldn't be a steady stream of girls to be in the pics
  • children would be taught a curriculum that emphasised respecting each others wishes, non-violence, and ownership of your own body
  • domestic violence would be punished more severly, not less, than violence against a stranger
-sexual double standards would vanish, so none of the slut/stud ridiculousness
  • wars would be less frequent, and more often (but not always, there are always crazy people) conducted with a real objective, rather than as a willy waving exercise (much hardly to wave a vagina. Apparently.)
ElephantsAndMiasmas · 13/08/2010 01:08

*severely

-parental leave would be properly sorted out (how can this not be case now, people have had kids since the dawn of time FFS)

  • people would no longer associate a slow, deep voice with authority
  • someone sensible like Samira Ahmed would be presenting Question Time, instead of that sexist old buffer Dumblebee.
breathtakingben · 13/08/2010 18:27
  • there would be amazing drugs invented to make period pain a thing of the past

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Surely it's not that simple? If they could be invented they would be, because the inventor would get rich? I doubt the lack of drugs is due to a lack of trying/oppression by the patriarchy?

MavisG · 14/08/2010 09:42

I think we wouldn't work a 5-day week, 47-week year, either. Maybe we'd have period breaks. Maybe we'd all have cycles in sync, like in the book, The Red Tent.

I think 'woman of a certain age' would be a term of approbation, full of respect.

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ISNT · 14/08/2010 10:03

I think it would be different depending on if it had been a matriarchy worldwide since the dawn of time, or if it suddenly changed now.

If it had been matriarchy since the dawn of time I think it would be slightly different but proabably just as bad.

Some of the ideas that people are coming up with are ideas that they have had because they have grown up in a patrirchy IYSWIM,

Women can be pretty horrible too, and people with power usually seem to behave pretty badly...

I just want everyone to be treated well, and to be free to be whoever they are, free of constraint.

Sammyuni · 14/08/2010 10:12

ISNT it makes you think though doesn't it, if it was matriarchy since humans origins would we be in the same state now? would all developments that have been made throughout our history exist? history would be different meaning would we as people even exist? what new developments would be made?

Playing with history is an interesting thing because we all hope it would be better but in truth we never can know if it would be.

BaronessBomburst · 14/08/2010 10:22

The post would come addressed to Mrs & Mr Bomburst.

......like it used to! I added DH to my account and it was fine until we changed address. Now the callcentre in India just can't get their head round the idea: "but your husband's name should come surely first, no?"

er, no!!!

LeninGrad · 14/08/2010 10:24

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