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Undiagnosed ‘Dizzy Episodes’

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yoshiro · 26/12/2024 05:25

First time poster, hope I’m using the platform as intended. TLDR at the end.

I was hoping to post this to see if anybody can give me any advice or point me in the right direction for a diagnosis. I am a 24 year old female suffering from a variety of differing symptoms and I have been off work sick since May. From January to March I was also off sick starting with a large 2nd degree burn that I sustained at work, a few days after this I developed glandular fever which developed into quincy and it took me a long time to recover. I have had glandular fever 4 times before this (once a year) so although it was rough I knew what I was going through. I also have previously been diagnosed with IBS, Depression and Anxiety (although before the illness I could confidently say the latter 2 were not at all an issue).

At the end of May I had been back at work for 2 months. I worked as a Barista and had done with the same company for 5 years so was very comfortable in the role. I was serving on the coffee machine and suddenly went really dizzy and disoriented, I left my shift early and had a bad panic attack because the whole episode came on in an instant and lasted for a few hours. I thought this was a one off until it started to happen all the time. At first it was once a week, then suddenly a few times a week until it was most days. I had originally just stopped going to work but was managing to do most things I would usually do like go for day trips with my boyfriend or go out and drink.

My symptoms are random and always come up in random patterns but include:

  • brain fog
  • confusion
  • dizziness
  • impending doom
  • panic
  • heart palipations
  • headache that wraps round the forehead
  • jaw clenching
  • crushing sensation in chest
  • cold sweats
  • sensitive teeth
  • overactive bladder
  • stiffness
  • disorientation

Another important symptom that I have been having is that since January my bladder has been so bad in the sense that I will wake up about 8 times in the night to go to the toilet and my bladder never ever feels empty. I don’t have a UTI but some urine work has shown high white blood cell counts so I have been prescribed antibiotics which have not helped. I have had a camera in my bladder that showed it looking completely healthy so no diagnosis there. It is an exhausting element of my illness but arguably the least scary as it’s inconvenient and uncomfortable more than anything else.

I used to smoke weed semi regularly and had a few episodes that seemed to correlate with that so I immediately stopped and no difference seemed to happen. Some of the episodes seemed to trigger intense panic and disorientation as well as what I can only describe as losing my grip on reality. I would be confused to the point of not knowing who my friends and boyfriend were and I would feel like I was in a bad trip. Luckily I haven’t had many of these specific episodes but I think it’s important to note that I stopped smoking weed completely at the start of May and even in December I have had an episode pretty similar to this. Even the smell of it near me makes me panic at the moment.

I was prescribed medication for balance that is also used as antipsychotic. I have a feeling this may have triggered some of the more sinister impending doom symptoms and panic as they were more frequent around the time of taking these but I am not sure. I was also prescribed Amitriptyline for my mood and incase it was anxiety. I took this for 5 days but on the 5th day I woke up distressed and completely hopeless but I knew this was down to the tablets so stopped them immediately and improved straight away mood-wise.

I also was comfortable drinking from May till about August because it seemed to be the only time my symptoms didn’t spike. I already suffer from asian flush so I never drank lots anyway but I have had to stop drinking now because my daily symptoms are just too unmanageable to go out.

At one point we considered that it May have been my contraceptive injection. I have been on the depo for about 7 years on and off and my boyfriend noticed that the pamphlet said it’s only recommended to use for 2 years as it starts to use up your calcium supply. I came off the injection and had a really good 4 weeks in october where I had no symptoms whatsoever and no anxiety about my health until one day they all came back at once. I tried taking calcium supplements which caused me headaches and had my bloods done which also came back normal so that was another dead end. I am debating going back on the injection as I find periods a bit too unmanageable with my IBS.

I have been tested for Addisons disease recently which came back negative. I have had all sorts of blood works done which I’m pretty sure only suggested I was vitamin D deficient. I have had a CT scan of my lungs, X-ray of my chest, countless ECGs that show my heart is fine, plenty of blood tests and about 70+ doctors appointments and A&E trips.

I have been told nearly everytime at A&E that it is anxiety which I do appreciate there is a massive element to it but the physical pain is too intense to just discount it as anxiety. I had a really good few weeks in October where I didn’t pay the doctors or emergency room so much as a phone call so I am confident that it isn’t just a mental thing.

At this point in December I have spent the past 2 months in and out of A&E with intense and painful symptoms. I am pretty much bedbound the rest of the time and I am housebound too.

I was coping really well in the beginning and extremely optimistic but since my health has deteriorated so rapidly and my symptoms are nearly every hour of the day now I am completely desperate. My quality of life is really awful at the minute and my support system is also suffering. I went from being very outgoing and independent to not even being able to walk to the corner shop out of fear of ‘going pale’. I have tried to push myself but between my bladder and my more sinister symptoms it’s just not possible to complete daily tasks anymore.

I used to be so comfortable and enthusiastic about socialising but now because of my brain fog and occasional stiffness as well as the risk of having an ‘episode’ I just avoid it completely. The only people I manage to see are my family, boyfriend and flatmate. I expect sometime soon I will have to move back in with my parents as my boyfriend and flatmate have lives of their own and cannot care for me as much as I need.

I hope I’m not painting too much of a sob story, I am just trying to give you the bigger picture of how the illness affects me and see if there is anything that might point towards an answer. Seeing as my health has deteriorated so rapidly my family have kindly paid for a full body MRI which I am having this week and I have asked the NHS to do any bloods tests that they haven’t don’t already. I am also on the waiting lists for Neurology, Cardiology and ENT but I know I’m about 6 months off (already 6 months in). I have also had to start therapy because of how much I am struggling with the pain and fear of dying that is coming with my symptoms.

If anyone has any suggestions at all that would be incredible and I’d be so grateful. Also any suggestions for coping mentally with the uncertainty of an undiagnosed condition would be amazing. I am going to get my boyfriend to monitor the comments so to not give myself any unnecessary health anxiety but if this sounds like something you or a relative has maybe gone through do let us know. Thanks for your time!

TLDR

24F: housebound with worsening undiagnosed symptoms since May, including brain fog, dizziness, chest pain, heart palpitations, overactive bladder, and panic. Symptoms started suddenly while working and have progressively worsened, despite stopping weed, alcohol, and the contraceptive injection.

Numerous tests (bloods, ECG, chest X-ray, bladder camera) have shown little except vitamin D deficiency. Currently waiting for neurology, cardiology, and ENT referrals but desperate for answers as quality of life has deteriorated. Full body MRI scheduled this week. Seeking advice on possible diagnoses or coping strategies.

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yoshiro · 03/01/2025 05:42

@PurpleAngelz I'll definitely be asking my doctor about this thank you!

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yoshiro · 03/01/2025 05:57

Update for anyone interested:

• Had my MRI last Friday and came out of it feeling really traumatised but still can't place why. Was really really shaken up and very emotionally overwhelmed but genuinely still couldn't tell you why completely. Was in there for 2.5 hours so was quite taxing but didn't struggle with the claustrophobia etc. I was however on 3 hours sleep, agitated, on my period and hadn't eaten in case I set off my IBS so I'm guessing that's the cause.
• Have had what must be norovirus since last Friday but slowly starting to feel better so hopefully just that. Have been bedridden since Friday and only just managed to go out Thursday for an hour.
• Have had UTI like symptoms coming and going for the past week too but not sure if this is around my hormones changing since being off the injection for a few months (Which I will likely go back on as it doesn't seem to be the route of my problems)
• MRI results are incredibly positive it basically just says everything is working perfectly and there is no abnormalities whatsoever. I had my head, spine, heart, pelvis and abdomen scanned and it was all good.
• Debating going on Sertraline if Doctor recommends to help with the horrible depersonalisation and anxiety side of things.
• IBS will definitely be more manageable back on the injection too if that's all good to go back on.
• Had bloods in the past week which all look really good so bit stumped there unless any suggestions to look out for? (B12 and Folate, ESR, Liver function, Glycated HB, FBC, Renal Profile, Calcium, Ferritin, Thyroid Function, Iron Studies)
• Having phone call with Dr today but as returning to home town to stay with parents again will likely try to become a temporary patient at GP there if anyone has any advice for this?
• Will raise some of the conditions mentioned on this thread and report back.

Feel a bit back to square one now so any advice whatsoever would be appreciated x

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FeralWoman · 03/01/2025 06:04

Ask about having your autonomic system tested. That will involve a tilt table test. The autonomic system can be responsible for dizziness. It will likely need to be through a neurological department at a hospital.

When you say head was checked do you mean brain? Was your spinal cord checked or just your spine?

If it might be MS you might need a lumbar puncture done. Lesions don’t always show up on MRIs.

halfshutknife · 03/01/2025 06:59

I hope you get some answers soon. It does sound very MH related which can cause real physical symptoms. Fingers crossed for some relief for you 🤞🏻

redfishcat · 03/01/2025 07:26

Are your Vit D levels back in the normal range yet, as some, not all, of your symptoms are like mine when I was Vit D deficient. Really important to get levels up and then stay on top of knowing what your levels are and staying in the normal range.

Hope they work out what the rest is soon, sounds horrid

crumbsonmyface · 03/01/2025 07:42

Hope you get some answers soon, this sounds so frustrating for you. Your initial symptoms sound so similar to what I had last year (vertigo, dizziness, anxiety, depersonalisation, face randomly going numb, heart palpitations, breathing issues etc). I thought I was going crazy - even going into Sainsbury's where the lights were bright sent me into an episode.

For me it seems like upping my iron (ferritin). B12 and vitamin d really helped (took 9 months to fix). But I found that doctors said my vitamin panel was fine, but it was actually on the low side. Eg. The nhs say ferritin is "normal" from 13, but my symptoms didn't go away until my ferritin went over 100.

I hope you find out what's causing it, but thought I'd post in case it's something worth looking into for you.

violetcuriosity · 03/01/2025 08:19

There is a link between glandular fever and MS xx

NeonGiraffe · 03/01/2025 09:02

Look into vestibular migraine (aka migraine associated vertigo.) There's a Facebook group called vestibular migraine professional. Lots of sufferers on there, think you'll find it potentially very eye opening. Migraine symptoms can be 24/7 not necessarily intermittent. Most of your symptoms bar the uti symptoms and the 'stiffness' (although migraine is odd so even the stiffness is possible) fit vestibular migraine. You need a neurologist who really understands/has a specialism in migraine. Not all neurologists do.

With regard to your uti symptoms I'd suggest this podcast.

podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/1-tests-misogyny-and-misconceptions/id1733889603?i=1000648438653

UTI is woefully underdiagnosed in the nhs as their tests are crap. Women are sent away being told they don't have one when they do. More progressive urologists are using the more advanced tests and have a better understanding of recurrent uti symptoms and how to treat them.

Tcateh · 03/01/2025 09:17

Can you post your B12, ferritin and folate levels.

From my experience I've felt benefit from b12 injections.

Now, these are notoriously hard to get on the NHS unless you come back as deficient.
The NHS levels are low, but it is worth talking to GP about trying them as many people have benefited from having them.

It's quite simple in that if you have all these symptoms then they can help.
Unfortunately the guidelines are fairly stringent.

Just a thought.

If not start on high strength tablets now.

Blarn · 03/01/2025 09:34

You mention how your IBS is worse when on your period, have you considered PMD? It's when the usual PMS things ramp up to 11 and can last for most of the month. It's linked with heavier painful periods too. A hormonal contraceptive and antidepressant might be worth looking into. Not saying it will solve everything as many PPs have said you can have more than one health problem at once. And unfortunately if one of those seems anxiety related it is very difficult to convince doctors that there might be something else going on as well.

yoshiro · 12/01/2025 12:51

@FeralWoman Apologies for such a late reply! I am on the wait list for a Cardiology appointment, I expect they'll do the tilt table test as I think that's what they do for POTS? I think that is something they might be investigating.

I had my spine and brain done as part of the MRI, they said it was perfect apart from having worn down my neck a bit which is apparently common with people my age (iphone neck lol).

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yoshiro · 12/01/2025 12:52

@halfshutknife Thank you so much that's so kind of you. Yeah I think for now I'm going to try tackle the mental health side of things as much as I can and hopefully some of the controllable symptoms will ease up too!

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yoshiro · 12/01/2025 12:57

I think my vit D results were 35 with the normal range being 50 to 150. I've just started some new supplements as the last ones were giving me bad headaches for some reason so after a month or so I may ask them to check again and see if there's a correlation. Definitely interested to see if it makes a big impact!

Thanks so much for your kind comment :)

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yoshiro · 12/01/2025 12:57

yoshiro · 12/01/2025 12:57

I think my vit D results were 35 with the normal range being 50 to 150. I've just started some new supplements as the last ones were giving me bad headaches for some reason so after a month or so I may ask them to check again and see if there's a correlation. Definitely interested to see if it makes a big impact!

Thanks so much for your kind comment :)

@redfishcat

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yoshiro · 12/01/2025 13:01

@crumbsonmyface Sorry for such a late reply!! That is so interesting! I am sorry to hear you went through that. Yeah it says mine is 35 so I could definitely do with taking a supplement maybe for that. Started vitamin D for now as I am definitely low on that but when I can I will look at the other two, thanks so much for the suggestion!

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yoshiro · 12/01/2025 13:03

@violetcuriosity I had no idea before looking into all of this it's so crazy how a doctor hasn't suggested anything before now! I had very positive MRI results but maybe if it persists I can ask for further testing. Thanks for your comment :)

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FeralWoman · 12/01/2025 13:05

35 is low IMO. I think the range is 25-150 here in Australia. Mine sits at about 100 or so. I was diagnosed as vitamin D deficient after my pregnancy with DD. I take 2000IU vitamin D3 each day and that maintains a good level for me. I’m in a sunny country but I rarely go out in the sun. If my result was 35 my GP would only expect that low at the end of a dreary winter, and would be telling me to up my supplements.

yoshiro · 12/01/2025 13:05

@NeonGiraffe So sorry for such a late response! I will definitely have a look thank you, they had suggested that at the start but the meds they gave me cause bad side effects so it was kind of left there.

In regards to the UTI it is awful isn't it. They really don't seem to be taking it very seriously. I'll definitely give the podcast a go thank you!

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yoshiro · 12/01/2025 13:10

@Tcateh Of course!

B12: 368 ng/L
Serum folate: 5.3 ug/L
Serum ferritin: 37 ug/L

Let me know what you think, can definitely ask my GP about the injections but at the very least will start some supplements :)

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yoshiro · 12/01/2025 13:13

@Blarn Sorry for the late response! Think the GP has given me the all clear to get back on the depo injection which is happy days as it means I'll stop getting a period again! I have gotten on really well with it for years so I was sad to come off it but it doesn't seem to be the cause of my problems so that's a small win at least.

I'm going to start sertraline shortly after that as well to try tackle the mental health side of things and hopefully that tackles a good few symptoms :)

Thanks so much for your comment!

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yoshiro · 12/01/2025 13:16

@FeralWoman That's mad how much of a difference there is! I am taking 1000 I.U. now will see how I get on. I am not surprised mine is low as I've spent so much time in bed the past few months but hopefully now the weather is going to start improving here I can get some naturally too. Glad to hear you managed to sort yours out :)

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yoshiro · 12/01/2025 13:26

Just a quick update for anyone who cares:

Been at my parents a week and have improved. Trying really hard to focus on the mental health side of things to try and see how many symptoms I can tackle with that. I have been taking vitamin D3 and probiotics for about 5 days, yesterday evening I started feeling quite wired and a bit sad/ anxious. I slept it off and felt a little bit better this morning but it crept in again a little. I gave it a google and apparently this can happen because of the gut/ brain being connected by the vagus nerve so I'm hoping that this will die down in a few days the longer I take it. It's bearable for now but any suggestions or similar experiences would be great :)

I've massively got my appetite back and sorted out my sleeping pattern which is so good because it did spiral quite badly in december. I am now sleeping 8+ hours a night and waking up just before sunrise so it's been good for my mood to get all the daylight!

I have also started with a really great therapist who has given me some amazing books on chronic stress on the body and depersonalisation which has been incredibly helpful. I also managed to get out the house for the first time in weeks a few times which was great.

Things do feel massively like they are looking up but it does feel like I have a long way to go. Feel a bit uneasy about my mood since yesterday as it doesn't feel like myself but hopefully that will relax a bit the longer I take my supplements.

The dizzinessc, fatigue, overactive bladder and brain fog are all still massively there but at the very least the rest of the symptoms are a bit more manageable.

Thanks for everyone's lovely suggestions it has been so incredibly helpful and reassuring.

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crumbsonmyface · 12/01/2025 14:59

@yoshiro - so glad to hear that things are improving. Hopefully it's just upwards from here on out. I just wanted to share this image that helped me when I had the low iron.

Undiagnosed ‘Dizzy Episodes’
yoshiro · 12/01/2025 15:44

@crumbsonmyface Thank you! That is shocking I will definitely be starting some supplements tomorrow!

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recyclingisaPITA · 12/01/2025 17:56

One thing about depersonalisation is it shuts off your emotions. So as you start to get better and the depersonalisation lifts, you can actually feel worse because you're feeling those emotions you were previously blocking out. Therapy also will bring up emotions.

Glad you're getting on top of some of it. It's amazing what difference even getting enough sleep makes when you're unwell with something.