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Hysteroscopy - injured during hysteroscopy - please read

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JFT · 17/10/2023 17:03

Hello, I'm new here - please be gentle if I'm getting protocols wrong.

I started this account on advice of a friend who suggested it might be the best place to share my issue.

I'm not a 'mum' (no children). I've not begun the menopause yet but am over 50 and have many gynae issues over the last 20+ years, been under monitoring and regular testing.

Last year, the scanning person told me I have: adenomyosis, several large fibroids inside my uterus and in the muscle wall, PCOS on my left ovary, and a fast growing polyp. She said why isn't your GP or the hospital doing anything about this?

My GP agreed action needed taking and that hysterectomy was the only solution as adenomyosis doesn't resolve with menopause. I was keen to go ahead quickly. But then the Royal Free Hospital discharged me on false grounds that I have elected 'private gynaecology'. I have never had private health care of any type and can't afford that. They then refused my re-referral from GP when she pointed out this error, repeating that they have 'information' I have private healthcare (not true).

So, GP referred me to the UCLH. They scanned and double checked and agreed all the same known issues. They also agreed I need a fairly urgent hysterectomy. But they asked me to come in for the large polyp (approx the size of a large grape 2cm x 3cm) to be removed by hysteroscopy procedure first. I couldn't understand why and argued why, asking if you're taking my whole uterus what's the point of removing the one polyp?

Anyway this is where it gets dark and twisted. The UCLH gynaes lied to me and informed me that a quick walk-in hysteroscopy procedure with no sedation, no anaesthesia, no pain management, to whip out the polyp and send it for biopsy was the first thing to do. They literally mocked me when I requested this to be done under General Anaesthetic (GA) and implied I was being completely unreasonable and advised that GA would needlessly put my life at risk for a minor issue and so they weren't prepared to offer GA. They booked me in for a walk in hysteroscopy and I was advised just to take ibuprofen and paracetamol beforehand.

During the hysteroscopy I was severely injured. It was conducted by only one of the gynaecologists working alone and a technician supplying saline solution, with one chaperone just observing watching me from the other side of the room.

I felt my cervix being opened up and it was uncomfortable but not too bad. I also felt 'rummaging around' feelings that were definitely painful but not horrific. Then, the gynaecologist told the saline person that she 'couldn't see' and to supply more solution, at the same time, I felt the most horrific searing burning stabbing and wrenching pain in my upper left uterus area. I felt as if I was being stabbed by a red hot poker at the same time as there was a tugging and pulling feeling. My uterus started to involuntarily contract and at that point I was unable to breathe. It was the worst pain I've ever experienced at 10 out of 10 (and I've 'been through' a lot). At this point I put my hands on my head in desperation and agony and the chaperone asked 'are you OK?'. Seemingly her asking that had the whole thing called off - as then I immediately felt the stabbing stop and the gynaecologist withdrew all the equipment from my cervix / vagina.

Afterwards I went into total shock and PTSD symptoms, my whole left side and abdomen was numb.

I asked the gynaecologist what happened and she said everything went fine and she had taken some small tissue samples for biopsy. I asked 'what about the polyp?' and she told me 'there is no polyp' and I was confused as it had shown on all the scans. She said there is definitely no polyp to be seen. I had such a bad feeling about her and I also had during the prior consultation, so I just kept quiet and left.

After this incident I went straight home and became chronically unwell and in an emergency health situation. I won't bore all the details but I believe my upper left uterus was stabbed and punctured, that my left ovary and left ureter and other adjacent tissues were injured in this. I was unable to feel any sensation when passing urine as my bladder / urethra nerves must have been affected somehow. I was in chronic pain all around my left flank, heavily bleeding, and was passing a lot of blood in urine. I had also aquired 'klebsiella' a hopsital acquired infection.

I was thrown out of A&E who refused to treat me and said I was lying about the whole incident, that they had spoken to the gynaecologist and she assured them I have no gynae issues whatsoever and she had given me the images to prove it (obv not true). They claimed I was a drug seeker and quite literally threw me out.

Subsequently had to fight for my GP refer me back to the Royal Free where following scans and checks, I had a 1 hour 45 minute sugery under GA to remove the polyp and scar tissues from inside my uterus. But had to wait many months in horrific pain for that surgery and am still now left in chronic pain and daily uterine bleeding (I've now been bleeding every day since July 2022). I'm being medicated with daily doses of mefenamic acid, tranexamic acid, and 30mg per day of Provera, none of which are stopping the bleeding. I'm repeatedly incurring internal infections - kidney / ureter, on the same side as the injury was. But my GP and every single person involved is downplaying it, minimising, and gaslighting me. If I wasn't managing my own iron treatment (high daily doses of iron, folate, Vit C, B12), I would already be dead from blood loss by now.

Am now waiting for an 'urgent' full hysterectomy, with lots of add on issues that would be in line with having been severely injured in the hysteroscopy. MRI scans have shown that my left ovary, ureter, pouch of douglas, part of colon, and internal spaces are all bonded and meshed together with scar tissue. None of that was the case before. But it is being explained away as 'endometriosis' even though it isn't. It's scar tissue and adhesions. My current consultant surgeon will not discuss anything whatsoever with me, including the surgery she already did, and I've not been able to have a single consultation with her - she's very clearly avoiding me to the point that it's laughable and absurd. I mean she is obliged to have appointments with me but she literally doesn't attend them and is playing such silly games. I'm obviously in a 'cover up' situation and so I assume she literally can't speak to me about the harm / injury but she has to do the surgery.

Even worse, other Royal Free staff have told me that there is 'no way' that I was injured during the hysteroscopy to remove the large polyp as this is not a procedure that can possibly happen as it's not part of any form of medical or gynae treatment and that no gynaecologist would attempt to remove the large polyp in a walk in non sedated procedure. They also say if that did happen then it's my fault for consenting.

I feel like I've been totally abused and violated. It's been barbaric and medieval. I feel my life has been put at risk and the whole thing was like one of those old backstreet abortions using coat hangers where women went home and died of infection or blood loss. I've got a solicitor looking into this but he hasn't actually taken my case yet. When they tried to remove the large polyp during walk in hysteroscopy, the UCLH gynaecologists a) lied to me; b) coerced me into something not quite lawful; c) botched it up; d) severely injured me; and now the whole of the NHS is trying to cover up what has happened to me, including my current surgeon. I feel conned and scammed.

Now I need to have this horrific extensive surgery that is way over and above a regular hysterectomy and in the meantime I'm really really ill and in pain and traumatised.

My question to anyone here is - please feedback any thoughts - have you ever heard of such a thing? Is it true that a large polyp would never be attempted to be removed by walk in non sedated hysteroscopy? If my solicitor doesn't take this case, does anyone know a firm that is likely to? Where do I get support for the trauma this incident has caused me (I feel quite literally far far worse than having been raped)?

Also I want to share my story as widely as possible to warn everyone. I think the NHS took a gamble on my life to use me as a guinea pig and see if they can cut costs and cut corners by doing gynae surgical procedures as walk ins with no medication or anaesthesia. I am so ill at the moment, I can't function, but I want to share my story and warn people.

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GCAcademic · 20/10/2024 09:56

This is disgusting. I'm horrified at these stories.

When I eventually had my hysterectomy done privately because I no longer trusted the NHS, the consultant asked me if I wanted to keep my cervix and ovaries. I elected to have everything removed so that I would never have to see a gynaecologist again .

JenniferBooth · 21/10/2024 14:57

@GCAcademic Its the scandal that just wont break

CherryogDog · 27/10/2024 07:44

I'm so sorry for everything you are going through @JFT and every woman who has ever gone through this.
My own (long story) experience is that following an unsuccessful (because it was excruciatingly painful) pipelle biopsy (unexpected, thought I was going for a chat), I was rebooked for what I thought was another pipelle with LA.
I have VA and bladder prolapse and find any gynae exam incredibly painful, which they knew.
First off, she used the large speculum, when I yelled in pain she changed it for a smaller one.
I'm already shaking uncontrollably, had the LA, and only then was I made aware I was having a hysteroscopy.
OMG the pain from the saline!
I was screaming, swearing, yelling stop! Stop! Stop! Over and over, until the nurse told her to stop.
I was left with my feet up, unable to get down because I have arthritis in my spine and hips, whilst they stood at the desk chatting about their lunch breaks.
There was pools of blood on the floor. I bled for days after.
She then had the stupidity to say that the cannula for the GA would much more painful.
I had it under GA, zero problem, quick recovery.
I found the campaign against painful hysteroscopy group on Facebook, and followed their advice to post on CQC. Within hours it was picked up by the hospital who emailed me asking for more info.
I complained to PALS.
Despite saying I wanted all correspondence to be in writing I was telephoned by head of gynae, who proceeded to tell me I should be greatful that I was being seen, because everyone else is, and that there is no fixed policy about consent, some ask and some don't.
My reply was that I worked in maternity, under women's services, and that it was drummed into us that ANY procedure must be consented to, even completely non invasive things such as performing obs.
I'm not physically affected now, but the psychological damage is huge.
I'm due my smear, I've cancelled it three times, and I need a pessary for my prolapse, but I can't face it.
Compared to my colonoscopy and gastroscopy, I've had several with maximum sedation, and recently I experienced pain, literally as soon as I said it hurt the scope was taken out and I was rebooked under GA.
Women's healthcare is still in the dark ages.

LLresident · 27/10/2024 09:38

Really sorry this has happened to you, hope you get the treatment and answers you need.

I don’t have any advice but just to tell you about my own UCLH experience. - went to a and e (at the time there was only telephone GP appts and my dr advised that I go for a mirena coil at the sexual health clinic which I didn’t want)for a mass that I could see and feel + massive periods

So the doctor in an and e tells me there is nothing there, there can’t be a mass because there are no organs in that area ??!!

Anyway a few months later I can get a GP appt (different area) , turns out i need a hysterectomy and I have severe anemia so need transfusions and then emergency surgery.

I have also had some work related experience of UCCH gynae - the arrogance and snobbery unbelievable

so sorry again for all you have been through but unfortunately I can completely believe it

JenniferBooth · 27/10/2024 13:14

CherryogDog · 27/10/2024 07:44

I'm so sorry for everything you are going through @JFT and every woman who has ever gone through this.
My own (long story) experience is that following an unsuccessful (because it was excruciatingly painful) pipelle biopsy (unexpected, thought I was going for a chat), I was rebooked for what I thought was another pipelle with LA.
I have VA and bladder prolapse and find any gynae exam incredibly painful, which they knew.
First off, she used the large speculum, when I yelled in pain she changed it for a smaller one.
I'm already shaking uncontrollably, had the LA, and only then was I made aware I was having a hysteroscopy.
OMG the pain from the saline!
I was screaming, swearing, yelling stop! Stop! Stop! Over and over, until the nurse told her to stop.
I was left with my feet up, unable to get down because I have arthritis in my spine and hips, whilst they stood at the desk chatting about their lunch breaks.
There was pools of blood on the floor. I bled for days after.
She then had the stupidity to say that the cannula for the GA would much more painful.
I had it under GA, zero problem, quick recovery.
I found the campaign against painful hysteroscopy group on Facebook, and followed their advice to post on CQC. Within hours it was picked up by the hospital who emailed me asking for more info.
I complained to PALS.
Despite saying I wanted all correspondence to be in writing I was telephoned by head of gynae, who proceeded to tell me I should be greatful that I was being seen, because everyone else is, and that there is no fixed policy about consent, some ask and some don't.
My reply was that I worked in maternity, under women's services, and that it was drummed into us that ANY procedure must be consented to, even completely non invasive things such as performing obs.
I'm not physically affected now, but the psychological damage is huge.
I'm due my smear, I've cancelled it three times, and I need a pessary for my prolapse, but I can't face it.
Compared to my colonoscopy and gastroscopy, I've had several with maximum sedation, and recently I experienced pain, literally as soon as I said it hurt the scope was taken out and I was rebooked under GA.
Women's healthcare is still in the dark ages.

This is fucking horrific. And you were told you should be grateful! Its a good example of NHS worship rendering health workers untouchable

Klatterpilla · 27/10/2024 14:25

My god these stories 😢 I'm so sorry to all of you.

I've only had a botched coil insertion which is nothing in comparison to what you ladies have been through.

Again though it was a female GP that did it and she utterly dismissed me when I most needed her.

She pushed the coil right through the wall of my uterus into my pouch of Douglas. She and I of course had no idea at the time something was wrong aside from me going into shock and her nearly calling an ambulance. When I came round she then sent me on my way. I went home but was in agony and I couldn't go to the toilet properly for a week until my DH insisted I go back to get checked.

She couldn't find the strings but was very dismissive and sent me away saying she'll arrange a scan for about 6 weeks time.

I cried on my walk back to my DH in the GP carpark. You may or may not be impressed to hear, he jumped out of the car, stormed the GP surgery, went straight into her consultation room and came out with an appointment at the hospital that afternoon!!!

I had to have xrays, internal ultrasounds (agony when I was already in pain), an MRI and finally surgery under GA to remove it.

The consultant was very apologetic it had happened. How much did that cock up cost the NHS??!!

I too can no longer tolerate smear tests or basically any examination using a speculum not helped by a botched termination a few years later 🙄

Women are treated fucking appallingly by the NHS 🤬

solice84 · 30/10/2024 07:28

@Klatterpilla
That's bloody horrific
I will never get a coil and it gets my back up whenever it's suggested at the gp. I think they have financial incentives on how many they can fit .

My Aunt nearly died from a botched coil

Klatterpilla · 30/10/2024 12:36

Oh no I'm so sorry about your aunt @solice84 , that's appalling 😢 I certainly won't be recommending getting a coil to my daughters that's for sure. I won't ever forget how that GP treated me.

TheShellBeach · 30/10/2024 12:44

The UCLH gynaecologists were actually scamming me for financial incentive reasons

Nonsense.

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