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PMS and PMDD

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Cappuccino17 · 27/04/2022 14:07

Iv been struggling with PMS since the age of 21 i am now 30. Before that I'd get sore breasts and that was it. My mood wouldn't be affected as much.
Currently my symptoms start 2 weeks before my period. Sometimes I am actually lucky enough to have a happy period where my mood is elevated and sometimes I have mild symptoms but that's once on a blue moon.
Commonly I start with irritation, I snap at the smallest of things, get hypersensitive, feel paranoid and begin lacking in confidence.
It's affecting my relationships with my kids and my husband. The recent period I was short with my husband on many occasions and I recognised it was my period approaching in 2 weeks I asked him to stay somewhat patient with me he appreciated that I told him but he couldn't last with my behaviour for 2 whole weeks and we ended up having a fall out that ended in tears on my end.
I try hard not to snap but everything is so irritating I have come to admit I cannot control my mood. I become a nightmare.
Iv seen doctors and the doctor said he could only recommend antidepressants but it doesn't make sense to go on them as I'm not depressed. He also said he wouldn't recommend it but its all he could offer and I should try herbal instead.
Iv looked into it and it seems to be a condition called PMDD that affects a small percentage of women it's like PMS on steroids.
It's affecting my day to day life. My life. I feel crappie for half a month per month. Its just not good enough.
Is there anyone that has this and can offer any advice.
Iv considered going on the pill to stop my period but I hate messing up my natural cycles as iv had friends who struggled to get pregnant after taking birth control.
Just to note when iv been pregnant without my period iv had no PMS PMDD and my husband says I'm a dream. And that was the old me who never had these symptoms.

Any advice or even just personal experiences would really help.

OP posts:
Slabadabbadooby · 29/04/2022 00:22

Hi op, we sound very similar and I wanted to say firstly that based on my experience I would avoid the pill. I tried it (not actually because of my moods, but because of period pains/heavy & irregular bleeding), and though it was fine for the first month or two, it became horrendous. Think of the very worst, lowest, angriest, most paranoid etc version of yourself that you feel before your period starts - and I was like that every single day. I knew something was wrong with me but it took me a long time to recognise that it was the contraceptive pill that was the problem. I nearly lost my job at the time and did lose a boyfriend because of my behaviour/mood swings. Once I finally realised the pill was the issue, I tried a few different types of pill, and it all ended the same way. I googled it at the time and read story after story of others who reacted the same way to it and I personally would never touch hormonal contraceptive again. I know you could be fine with it, just something to consider. Oh and I had a similar experience (though not as extreme) with evening primrose oil, but some women swear by it.

Now not on the pill, I've worked really hard to recognise in myself when it is my period altering my mood and though I can't entirely control it, I am a lot better in how I relate to my partner especially.

I will try to explain what I do and I'm sorry in advance because this is going to sound absolutely mental.

So the starting point was recognising that my mood was changing every month before my period, and sort of acknowledging to myself that something was going wrong there. it's progressed to now where at that time of the month it's as though I have two voices in my head, the crazy PMS woman and my more normal rational self. And I try to be open with my partner about what's going on.

For example, say my crazy brain is telling me he doesn't love me because he did something outrageous like said goodnight (genuine example of something I've freaked out about and I'm not proud). So I now have the two voices in my head - crazy, (he doesn't love me, he said goodnight in a cold way, if he loved me he'd make sure I was ok before saying goodnight etc )- and rational, (it's 11pm, he's tired and needs to sleep, he said goodnight normally, this isn't you (me), this is your hormones talking). I'm trying to figure out which of these two voices is the true voice, which is correct, and so on... And I've started to tell my partner all of this. I say to him, "my brains telling me you don't love me because of X, but my other brain is telling me this is my period and I don't know what's true. And we have a big long conversation about it, and God I know this sounds absolutely mental but it really has helped/is helping me. My partner is so understanding about all of it, my moods, the general insanity of it all, and I am really lucky in that respect. It is still a work in progress but it's really helped and I've got better at slowing down before I react to things too because of thinking

Something that I haven't been able to fix as of yet is that I will have at least 1-2 nights where I can't stop worrying. I lie in bed not being able to sleep with worry after worry running through my mind. Worried about the future, worries about things that happened in the past and so on. It's awful and I feel like I'm torturing myself, but I'm glad I'm mentally beating myself up rather than my loved ones. And also, less bad then the moods but an annoying physical symptom is that I vomit the night before my period starts. I'm not really sure why this is, it's not from pain, I assume it's hormone related though.

Outside of this time, I'm actually a pretty easy going and happy person. It's pretty shit having to go through this each month but I am hoping to keep on working at it.

Anyway this is far longer than I intended and I have made myself sound absolutely insane, but I hope it helps in some way.

Whatabanana · 29/04/2022 00:27

@Slabadabbadooby that is a really brilliant explanation, doesn't sound insane at all!

Slabadabbadooby · 29/04/2022 10:28

Thank you Whatabanana. I felt a bit embarrassed typing it out but am glad it made sense to you.

pinkgin03 · 05/05/2022 18:20

I understand this completely.
I believe I also suffer with this,and have done for a long time.
I can't control my moods,often I'm riddled with anxiety,depression and just down... a week later I'm happy,content and loving life.
It drives me insane aswel as my partner.
Tiny things will wind me up and then I end up quiet and bottling it all up which makes it worse.
I still need to visit the doctors and see if I can get any help as it's affecting my relationships too.
It's awful ! Xx

StarsHollow77 · 10/05/2022 19:07

I feel ya!
Only thing that helped me with my pms is supplement DIM ( i had estrogen dominance symptoms, rage, mood swings, anxiety, horrible painful boobs, hyper emotional etc) , I did some research started taking Dim in combination with evening primrose oil and magnesium. It changed my life. I barely get any pms now, and it's really improved my sleep too. It is completely herbal comes from veg like broccoli, cauliflower etc.
No harm in trying.

LilacWines · 11/05/2022 20:49

I have suffered from this since my teens and only now am i able to more or less manage it.

Basically from ovulation onwards i have mild depression that can also lead to me to a very dark place if I don't deal with it. But this state also alerts me to things that enrage me and it makes me look at my life with real clarity so it's not all bad.

One thing that's important is using my voice month-round so I don't bottle it all up and explode. I also try and stay away from social media when in PMT land as I can get too angry and argumentative and it's a waste of energy.

Also it's worth knowing that the symptoms can be due to a built up of oestrogen in the body. This can be cleared in two ways - lots of fibre, so I try and eat a huge amount of fruit and vegetables, and secondly exercise, so for those two weeks I will do as much exercise as possible to clear excess oestrogen and boost endorphins.

i also try and work with my cycle - period time is for rest and blissing out (genuinely such a relief when PMT ends), first two weeks of cycle I get busy, plan, be active, ovulation means feeling good and going out, enjoying life, and PMT is less social but more focussed, more exercise, more time to myself, being more gentle on myself etc.

Obviously it doesn't always work out like this as life gets in the way but it can be used to your advantage if you pay attention to your cycle and work with it.

Cappuccino17 · 12/05/2022 18:20

So nice to feel like I'm not alone with this. I really appreciate people sharing thier experiences and advice of what worked. I have a really busy lifestyle so my PM just crops up at times when I'm not prepared for it and the worst is when I'm at family event with it I literally just feel like crying and running away. This has happened so many times and I just can't let it come in the way again. I feel terrible after the events that I was so grumpy and not engaging etc and it's all eating me up and also my relationships with people at home and externally.

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Busylizzymumma · 14/05/2022 22:10

Hi everyone… I’ve just jumped on here as I am desperate for some help with this. I truly believe I have pmdd. I am fine right now (have been on period for two days) but if you had seen me on Thursday, I was a complete mess which followed me into Friday and eventually that mood left ! I feel I am more or less back to my happy energetic self. Two days ago I was thinking horrible things, I felt depressed, fragile, paranoid, was so close to resigning from work. There is so much more I could add but I wanted to know, what would I say to a GP. I feel like they will fob me off. I wants diagnosis so I can get the right support from work etc as it’s such a struggle each month since my periods returned after having my baby. I was absolutely fine before my periods came back. Any advice please !!????

nomistake · 14/05/2022 22:22

I have PMDD. Like the PP I sometimes feel depressed and almost suicidal around my period. I have had CBT for it which helped, and was also prescribed setraline but I'm too scared to take it as its only for 2 weeks per month which means side effects on and off.

Things I do find help - eating healthily/low carb and exercising. Literally the last thing you want to do with PMT but i find it makes a huge difference to my mood and my body's response to hormone levels.

It's worth a second chat with a doctor (a female one) as they may be able to get you CBT.

frostedfruits · 14/05/2022 22:57

I guess I've always had fairly bad PMS but the last few years have been off the scale. My rages were exhausting and destroying my relationship as well as making life really difficult. The down times were really down, couldn't stop crying, thought I was worthless. My doctor also prescribed sertraline last September and I took it on the lowest dose possible. It has relieved almost all my symptoms. I now just get a mild irritable feeling 2/3 days before my period which I think is pretty normal. I no longer have the crazy mood swings or the rages which could last days. My relationship is back on track and life feels much more calm and happy. I wish I'd done it years ago but the stigma of antidepressants stopped me. I'm just glad my partner was so tolerant understanding and no long term damage has been done. Hormones are scarily powerful!!! I tried exercise/diet/rest - none of it was enough to help me.
I hope all PP's find something to help. It's truly awful.

Busylizzymumma · 15/05/2022 05:02

PMS / PMDD are such debilitating conditions. I’m wondering though, how does one distinguish between the two?!! As some posters are saying it’s PMS but sounds a lot like PMDD?

LilacWines · 15/05/2022 18:22

@Busylizzymumma Good question I don't know, I have always called what I suffer from PMS but it probably is severe enough to be PMDD, I just haven't gone to a doctor and got it diagnosed properly. I think PMS is being a bit grumpy and sad, PMDD is more severe, dismantle-your-entire-life once a month kind of stuff.

But it's not talked about enough or researched or treated or taken seriously, and of course there is so much shame/silence around 'women's problem's' in general that I never heard about it growing up, although I'm fairly sure my mum had it.

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