Engineer says "Breast Care Hell YEAH!" Objective measure of breast size left 830ml right 650ml (78%)

[Pommie69]

Over a litre of best British bosom (inheritance of my beloved Granny!)

I heard the BBC R4 More or Less prog last week, testing "80% have the wrong bra size..." in which Prof of Biomedics (Joanna Wakefield Scurr Portsmouth Uni) said zero objective measure of breast size. Well how foxtrot stupid is that!

Last segment 19mins in: www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p09kxjnc

 I was laying my anti Section 67 Sexual Offender Wall - as you do - which involves a lot of bending over, well my mammary glands have a life of their own and a pendulosity that means they are barely attached to my actual body. When they merge like that even now my 80yo (retired) GP mother says in her disappointed voice "Oh darling why dont you get a properly fitting bra." FINALLY I get to answer Attilla-the-Mum back and say well it is because the NHS website tells me the same thing but omits to tell me how to achieve this desired outcome. 

So I literally had a EUREKA moment - displacement of water innit! ARCHIMEDES and so I have now informed my GP (who had stage 3 breast cancer for whom this is moderately important). My partner worked in breast cancer research for over a decade (I am so proud of her, she still asks for help with English she arrived with none from Poland in 2005 but now has 30 scientific papers to her name, many I struggle to understand) and 1) volume and density change over a life time AND 2) all that scanning is about detecting changes in DENSITY for which VOLUME is crucial.

So anyone out there with any relevant medical experience or instincts and more to the point ANY women out there prepared to do my heath robinosn method and create the preliminary research to create a REVOLUTION in breast care and self care?

This is SO AUTISTIC (I am) and numerical processing!
I am SO excited I have something that belongs to ME and it is NOW mine! And every woman shd be able to get an objective measure of breast size which I am here to tell you are NEVER the same (like feet size. back problems exercise, my Mum watched me becoming depressed, says I stopped playing sport over night and it should NEVER have been that way.

AND I studied 3d printing (theory CAD/CAM) , we did jet engine propellers but "cleavage" is just as contoured. I got a 3d printed mouyth and nose cage to keep mask off my face and all this brickeying and I realised it was kind of the right shape (I studied cabinet making so I know about starting approximate and I did literally REVERSE engineer it. It looked almost right and IT WAS, it fits snuggly and altohough as a face mask it needs no flex, as a breast separator it works BRILLIANTLY so I can bend over and they come to gether with a bit of a spring when i stand to remind them who is boss!

I CANT WAIT FOR MY GP to read her email OMG I was right about covid (3 years ago "a pandemic waiting to happen") I taught them left lateral for cervical screening which is MUCH LESS exposing (and needlessly re-traumatising for rape survivors and now MAYBE I have aced it again!

I don’t understand nine tenths of this post but I love your excitement and enthusiasm!

I heard More or Less too. It was a brilliant episode. I sort of knew all the information they stated but I couldn’t have stated it as coherently.

I’ll do my volume at some point if it helps. However, mine are fake after a double mastectomy so I may screw up the results. I’m part silicone and part saline. These girls don’t move.

I did have mahoosive breasts previously though and my spine has never really recovered.

Pardon?

exactly that!

Autistic engineer who cant believe all the joins in my head! My ma wanted me to be a doctor but I may have gone one better. IF we have real objective measurement of breast, we have a CHANCE of getting the right bra ie support but bra amnufacturers are not prioritising OUR comfort but often the 1ary objective and marketing is about what breasts are to men YEAUCH) which is totally alienating to me as a lesbian and as a rape survivor. The misery from onset...and now the information is MINE and that means I am not "victim" to random bra fitters who are approximating anyway. (IF THAT HELPS)

Im sorry to hear that but even what you have now is interesting because someone thought they would give you that size (for whatever reason) and if you are comfortable and feel OK with that they did a good job. Also interesting is 2 breasts on one woman are UNLIKELY to be the same (like feet) so it wd be very interesting for a numerically driven autistic woman to see how variable replacements are because that is also driven by preconceptions. And if I did lose mine I can now ask for that volume and volume ratio back! That cd be very comforting.

I am slightly confused but you seem very happy, so I’m happy for you! Hope you get a response to your email.

well with no objective sizes of breasts, how are we supposed to do as the NHS tells us to get properly fitting bras that cannot possibly fit. Women with smaller breats may have fewer problems but all kinds of actual health issues: posture spinal, ability to participate in exercise comfortably. By having an objective size and not being at the mercy of people who are basically guessing you are much more control of your own fate and having ben very very laienated from mine, it feels huge. & I know plenty of women with FAR worse helath problems arising. To come up with the brilliant answer that a) there is no objective measure and b) then to quantify it means I have a LOT more chance of getting what I need! & if I proliferate this idea it might even have implications for breast cancer because SIZE matters ie tumours have a different density that is what a mammogram is about. A friend of mine (a doctor) found she had stage 3 breast cancer, she KNOWS all the signs but they were absence stage 3 is one away from stage 4 and that is VERY SERIOUS, stage 3 was serious enough. She will be having regular checks probably at specialist surgeries but what if it became something that didnt need complicated equipment and can be done at home. Especially after covid that is a total gamechanger. But thanks for being happy for me even not understanding by my Mum was a GP and disappointed I wasnt BUT if my engineering is RIGHT (and it might be) this COULD save lives, and we all ought to be give an objective size at each medical check then we are more likely to pick up the changes ourselves. Earlier diagnosis for cancer is FAR BETTER outcomnes, far less tretament chemo and side effects. This could be HUGE!