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CalmConfident · 27/10/2025 21:18

Hi all, a place for us to discuss once we’ve finished reading the book!

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kickingcabbages · 27/03/2026 11:41

I will never acknowledge this trilogy as ‘true’ or canon or whatever the word is.

It’s such a disappointment that one of the most wonderful storytellers alive today delivered something full of very essential issues with the story.

As someone who works in children’s publishing, clearly everyone is too scared to edit him properly now and it shows.

pollyhemlock · 27/03/2026 16:01

The thing I can’t get over is the fact that there are still open windows between our world and Lyra’s despite the fact that they were all closed at the end of Amber Spyglass. It is this that makes the ending of AS so complete and moving. I like La Belle Sauvage which works as a prequel. The other two sequels I will not revisit.

RestitutionGranted · 10/05/2026 15:28

RockaLock · 18/11/2025 23:13

Ugh. Just finished it. What a disappointment. I was prepared to be disappointed, but this sadly exceeded my expectations.

Completely agree with all the points already made.

So many plot lines started and hinted at and not followed up at all.

A complete u-turn from the HDM sequence re: the windows. The angels were going to help close all the windows, so why were there so many left open in Lyra’s world? Surely they would have started there!

And yes, 100% Lyra would surely have gone looking for Will once she discovered that the ending to The Amber Spyglass was a in fact pack of lies and that the windows were fine. Especially when she realised that she had her own subtle knife. Or did Pullman just forget what he had written at the end of HDM?

I can’t really forgive him for not bringing Will back at all, he was such a great character. Even if it was just to see what he was doing in his life. And what was the point of killing off Serafina Pekkala? It added absolutely nothing to the story!

The magisterium plot bits, I just skimmed over. So dull. The world through the red building, all the “money is bad” stuff right at the end - the way it was written just seemed so contrived, as if Pullman was trying too hard to be clever - “oh, look, what is happening in this imaginary world is just like what’s happening all over the world in real life!”

I too was confused about the whole needing-to-separate thing to go into the red building, which was a Big Thing all the way through the books until they all got there and it wasn’t a Thing at all.

No idea why/how Ionides suddenly turned up in the other world at the end.

Literally the only thing in the whole book that I was happy about (other than Lyra and Pan happily reuniting, of course) was that Malcolm and Lyra didn’t get together after all. The thought of that just gave me the massive ick, it was like a middle aged man’s fantasy that every young woman must secretly lust after an older man.

I could (and do) re-read HDM over and over, but this trilogy and The Rose Field in particular is a one-time-only read for me, I think 🙁

So glad I found this thread! I’ve been trying to wade through this book since I got it at Christmas and only now on holiday have I succeeded.

Totally agree re the middle aged man fantasy thing which is just urgh. I saw a hilarious TikTok the other day which said something like “it’s well known the bloke you dated when you were 19 was the worst of anyone so why is it older men boast about being with a 19 year old woman?” 😂😂😂😂

The thing that irritated me the most was the bigging up of Lyra being older than Malcolm. But explained by pp above thread that he had to change the ending, so grim grim grim what he was planning and laying the foundations for and hopeless on behalf of the editors.

Am so annoyed I’m leaving it behind in the hotel library to frustrate another holidaymaker.

RestitutionGranted · 11/05/2026 07:32

Also - Henry and Ethel made zero sense and felt like a scene from the start of “Up”.

shoehorned in as if was important to tie things up at the end but just created even more questions.

why would Lyra give them her gold that Malcolm made? So they have something of value where they are going? Gobbledigook.

24 hours on from finishing it and still raging

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