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Just discovered Octavia Butler - Is all her work worth reading?

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Limth · 29/05/2024 13:51

I'm not usually into dystopian future, science fiction type of stuff at all but I'm reading Octavia Butler's Parables (Earthseed) books. They're absolutely excellent. I'm so excited to have discovered another brilliant female author who's catalogue I can work through.

But I wonder about her other works:
If I'm loving the Parables books, will I love the rest of her work?
Are they all science fiction?
Are there any standout excellent works?
Any duds?

I've been burned before when I've gotten all excited about a newly discovered author only to find they've got one or two brilliant works and the rest are shite <side eye to Margaret Attwood and Barbara Kingsolver>

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cherryassam · 29/05/2024 14:27

I’ve loved every one of hers that I’ve read - Kindred might be my favourite. The Lilith’s
Brood series is also very good and if you like short stories, The Bloodchild and Other Stories.

I am a science fiction / fantasy etc fan though. I think the Parable books are the most ‘real’ of her works, so it may be the others are too science fiction for you. Kindred is probably the least science fiction-y of the others that I’ve read.

Edmontine · 31/05/2024 12:07

This thread reminds me that a writer friend of mine introduced me to Octavia Butler’s work twenty years ago and gave me a copy of ‘Parable of the Sower’. It was unlike anything I’d read before (and I’ve read a lot of sci fi and speculative fiction) but I found it so traumatising and depressing I haven’t managed to read another one since. Though I always meant to.

Maybe now is the time.

Limth · 31/05/2024 13:15

cherryassam · 29/05/2024 14:27

I’ve loved every one of hers that I’ve read - Kindred might be my favourite. The Lilith’s
Brood series is also very good and if you like short stories, The Bloodchild and Other Stories.

I am a science fiction / fantasy etc fan though. I think the Parable books are the most ‘real’ of her works, so it may be the others are too science fiction for you. Kindred is probably the least science fiction-y of the others that I’ve read.

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That's so helpful to know, thank you so much!

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Limth · 31/05/2024 13:16

Edmontine · 31/05/2024 12:07

This thread reminds me that a writer friend of mine introduced me to Octavia Butler’s work twenty years ago and gave me a copy of ‘Parable of the Sower’. It was unlike anything I’d read before (and I’ve read a lot of sci fi and speculative fiction) but I found it so traumatising and depressing I haven’t managed to read another one since. Though I always meant to.

Maybe now is the time.

Parable of the Talents is a pretty rough ride too TBH.

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Edmontine · 31/05/2024 13:30

But it sounds so … now.

And the earlier one so incredibly prescient. How did she do that?

I have about a million sample chapters from other books waiting on my phone kindle - but I’ve just added the first two chapters of Talents.

Cooper77 · 01/06/2024 16:07

I don't know anything about Octavia Butler, but I know what you mean about discovering a new writer. Someone once said that it's like falling in love, and it's so true. I have just 'discovered' Douglas Adams. I knew he existed of course –indeed, he'd always been on my 'to read' list – but I took a collection of his essays out the library and now I'm hooked. I'm going to Cambridge tomorrow and plan to buy his complete works in Heffers bookshop (I'd rather give them the money than Amazon).

I've fallen in love like this before – with Aldous Huxley (my first love, when I was 19), Virginia Woolf, Robert Graves, Oscar Wilde, Patrick Leigh Fermor and Evelyn Waugh. With all of them I ended up buying biographies, their collected letters, essays, etc...everything I could find.

Just wanted to say congratulations and that I hope you'll be very happy together 😁

Limth · 02/06/2024 06:14

Cooper77 · 01/06/2024 16:07

I don't know anything about Octavia Butler, but I know what you mean about discovering a new writer. Someone once said that it's like falling in love, and it's so true. I have just 'discovered' Douglas Adams. I knew he existed of course –indeed, he'd always been on my 'to read' list – but I took a collection of his essays out the library and now I'm hooked. I'm going to Cambridge tomorrow and plan to buy his complete works in Heffers bookshop (I'd rather give them the money than Amazon).

I've fallen in love like this before – with Aldous Huxley (my first love, when I was 19), Virginia Woolf, Robert Graves, Oscar Wilde, Patrick Leigh Fermor and Evelyn Waugh. With all of them I ended up buying biographies, their collected letters, essays, etc...everything I could find.

Just wanted to say congratulations and that I hope you'll be very happy together 😁

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Thank you 💗

It absolutely is like falling in love isn't it?! Last year, I stumbled across Siri Hustvedt and had much the same experience - while I find some of her work pretentious and disconnected, we had a bit of a romance!

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Cooper77 · 02/06/2024 15:43

Limth · 02/06/2024 06:14

Thank you 💗

It absolutely is like falling in love isn't it?! Last year, I stumbled across Siri Hustvedt and had much the same experience - while I find some of her work pretentious and disconnected, we had a bit of a romance!

It's funny, I was thinking about this the other day – I mean how we have a sort of relationship with a writer. Nabokov gave a lecture on Dickens once and he said "to enjoy him, you must surrender to the voice." It always stuck in my mind. I believe he said the same about Jane Austen. By voice, I guess he meant the personality behind the words.

I'm fond of Bertrand Russell's essays, for example (not so much his heavy philosophy, more his popular, lighthearted essays, on things like the joys of laziness, or what makes people boring, etc). Whenever I dip into one of his books, he's there – that clear, funny, tender-hearted voice. I feel the same with other writers. Whenever I pick up P. G. Wodehouse, Patrick Fermor, George Orwell (more the non-fiction), Bill Bryson, Douglas Adams, etc, they're there in the room, and it cheers me up. It's a cliche, but it really is like meeting up with a much-loved friend.

That said, there are other writers whose work I enjoy but whose voice/personality I dislike. Evelyn Waugh, for example, was a superb writer but a horrible man. I love his books. In fact, I'd have him in my top five or six. But every so often his nasty, sadistic little personality peeps through the writing. I like Virginia Woolf, but can't say I love the person. I feel the same about Anita Brookner, Anthony Burgess and Philip Larkin – love the writing, don't love the voice.

CountingCrones · 02/06/2024 15:45

Kindred is a world-famous classic for good reason, OP. It’s excellent.

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 10/06/2024 22:49

I've liked all of hers apart from Fledgling. I won't tell you why, but Goodreads will fill you in if you want to. It's about vampires.

Edmontine · 11/06/2024 12:02

That sounds intriguing, partly because of the lengthy and invested Goodread reviews - which I skimmed to avoid too many spoilers.

I had no idea she’d written a vampire novel - but late work is often a little different. Worth adding to my enormous unread list.

Limth · 11/06/2024 13:24

CutthroatDruTheViolent · 10/06/2024 22:49

I've liked all of hers apart from Fledgling. I won't tell you why, but Goodreads will fill you in if you want to. It's about vampires.

Thank you. I'm not too keen on vampire things. I read Dracula and loved it though!

But Butler is such a great writer that I'm willing to give anything of hers a go.

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Ohhownaice · 11/06/2024 14:09

Butler is extremely consistently good; go for it (though I'm less fond of her shorts than the novels). I do not know anyone else who does anywhere near the same things she does, unfortunately - but you have a lot of her books ahead of you :)

Limth · 13/06/2024 17:24

Ohhownaice · 11/06/2024 14:09

Butler is extremely consistently good; go for it (though I'm less fond of her shorts than the novels). I do not know anyone else who does anywhere near the same things she does, unfortunately - but you have a lot of her books ahead of you :)

That's great to know, thank you. It's always so hard to know if an author will be consistently good - that's such a good way to put it.

It's so exciting to have all her works ahead of me. I love finding new writers.

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Spinet · 13/06/2024 17:43

Bloodchild is probably the best example of a short story I've ever read. Horrifying mind.

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