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50 Books Challenge Part Three

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Southeastdweller · 24/02/2024 13:46

Welcome to the third thread of the 50 Book Challenge for this year.

The challenge is to read fifty books (or more!) in 2024, though reading fifty isn't mandatory. Any type of book can count, and please try to let us all know your thoughts on what you've read.

If possible, please can you embolden your titles and maybe authors as well of books you've read or going to read? It makes it much easier to keep track, especially when the threads move quickly at this time of the year.

The first thread is here and the second one here.

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satelliteheart · 27/02/2024 19:27
  1. I'll Never Tell by Catherine McKenzie

The four Macallister siblings reunite at Camp Macaw, the summer camp their parents owned and ran in Canada. Their parents have recently passed away and they're gathered for the memorial service and will reading. However, the will includes an unexpected clause. Twenty years previously a young member of camp staff was brutally attacked at camp. Their father always believed one of them was responsible and the siblings now need to decide if he was right or not before the camp can be distributed among them.

I think this was an Amazon first reads freebie but I really enjoyed it. I don't have any experience of North American summer camps but I used to be involved in something which had a group of people reunite every summer and spend all our time together for a few weeks before going back home and not seeing each other until the following summer. I thought this novel brilliantly evoked that unique experience of slipping back into old friendships instantly despite months with no contact and the way the outside world seems to disappear whilst you're in that bubble. I liked the way the siblings were all believably flawed and also all had unique personalities and voices. I probably won't seek out more books by this author as I simply have too many tbr but I really enjoyed this

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 27/02/2024 19:27

Sorry, @noodlezoodle I've read the sample, and I think it was enough. I'm all for a romp, happy enough for puerile nonsense occasionally, and quite content to wallow in lesbian necromancy when the need arises, but it has to at least make sense grammatically for me, and this doesn't. Some of the 'sentences' made my inner pedant twitch.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 27/02/2024 19:29

@minsmum Speaking of romps, I LOVE The Talisman Ring.. I think that and Masqueraders might be my favourite Heyer novels.

noodlezoodle · 27/02/2024 19:30

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 27/02/2024 19:27

Sorry, @noodlezoodle I've read the sample, and I think it was enough. I'm all for a romp, happy enough for puerile nonsense occasionally, and quite content to wallow in lesbian necromancy when the need arises, but it has to at least make sense grammatically for me, and this doesn't. Some of the 'sentences' made my inner pedant twitch.

Totally fair. Also, am dying at quite content to wallow in lesbian necromancy when the need arises Grin

minsmum · 27/02/2024 20:49

@RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie my favourite is The Grand Sophy

C8H10N4O2 · 27/02/2024 20:57

CoteDAzur · 26/02/2024 00:06

I've never heard of most of those names and I find it hard to believe that sexism is the only reason their books are not as successful as Dune, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Snow Crash or The Three-Body Problem.

Still, if you choose one hard-sf book by one of those women authors, I'll try reading it.

This thread as moved on a bit rapidly so will try to cover several points in one.

All these women are multiple award winners with substantial sales (by SFF standards) - with the exception of Yoon Ha Lee who I included in error as a mathematical writer. Bujold, Le Guin, Cherryh, Willis in particular will be in the airport bookshops alongside the men.

Recommendations - rather than one, suggesting some options - pick whichever feels closest to your tastes.

Cherryh - I like Cyteen which is a companion piece to the Company Wars series (or pick any book from the series - Downbelow might work).

Bujold's series are more of a saga and focus a lot on how tech developments change peoples' lives in a space age universe so may be too people focused.

Asaro's Quantum Rose. You will love it or hate it.

Nagata - Nanotech, post humanism, military SF topics. Try the Last Good Man or the Nanotec series (Vast - they don't need to be read in order)

Vinge - you might like Catspaw. Not her hardest SF (but her older books have some godawful dated covers which neatly illustrate some of the sexism in SF)

Regarding a couple of other points:
She belongs to an age in SF where outlandish stories of odd civilizations on the other side of the universe were the norm

Like Dune?

The best SF authors are scientists, engineers, computer programmers - people who know what they are talking about in every detail of a story when they write about a space station, relativistic speeds, or AI. This was true when Asimov and Arthur C Clarke were the kings of the genre, and it's still true today.

Gibson and Herbert were non scientists, Tchaikovsky studied psychology and went into law, Stephenson was a geographer (albeit with a side interest in computing), Dick was a liberal arts drop out, Asimov was a biochemist.

Catherine Asaro is a Harvard physicist but has achieved the traditional accolade from male critics to read research which was actually written by one Dr C Asaro.
Subject expertise will reduce the research needed, is likely to stimulate the interest but I wouldn't say its necessary, any more than the engineers need degrees in sociology or anthropology to build convincing worlds.

Sexism is still very strong in SF and the fandom. Even successful women writers are pushed by publishers to make more key characters male, to do more "feelings" - it would be funny if it wasn't so annoying. When Le Guin wrote Tehanu in the 90s she was very well established but still pushed by the publisher to "recover" Ged's mage power and criticised by fans for not so doing.
When you consider how little even successful genre writers earn its not surprising that they need to bend toward what sells/what publishers will accept. This is also an issue for minority writers who are pushed to write "minority" books.

Regarding "where is the female Neal Stephenson".
One of the SF groups I was on years ago used to have "where is the female Greg Egan" in the FAQ because it was so frequently asked. The answer was "in the same room as the other male Greg Egan". Some writers are decidedly individual - Egan certainly was. Stephenson - yes I'd say so as well but I'm a heretic who prefers Cryptonomicon to Snowcrash and to me his books do shout "west coast white bloke" in the writing. I love them but I don't think there will be a female Stephenson unless she wrote from that perspective and culture.

Sorry this ended up longer than I intended!

Palegreenstars · 27/02/2024 21:05

14.Frenchman’s Creek by Daphne Du Maurier. Absolutely perfect pirate romance. @ LadyStColumbofNavron I can’t find you to tag but I can see why this is your name sake. The audio was sultry and fabulous.

Sadik · 27/02/2024 21:31

@C8H10N4O2 I'm not sure you'll convince Cote - but as a SF lover I like your list & will be looking up the ones I've not read :)

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 27/02/2024 21:38

@minsmum Another excellent choice!

Glad to have made you chuckle @noodlezoodle Speaking of lesbian hi-jinks with magic, have you read The Good Fairies of New York? I’ve read and loved it a couple of times, although it might feel a bit dated now. Very silly, and imo a lot of fun.

noodlezoodle · 27/02/2024 21:44

@RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie I have not - adding it to the TBR now!

Passmethecrisps · 27/02/2024 21:51

5 pages in?! Good grief!

this hasn’t been a great month for my reading I have to say.

2024 book list thus far

  1. The Furthest Station - Ben Aaronovitch
  2. Guards, Guards - Terry Pratchett
  3. Eric - Terry Pratchett
  4. Paper Cup - Karen Campbell
  5. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban- JK Rowling
  6. Moving Pictures - Terry Pratchett
  7. The Rise (SS)- Ian Rankin
  8. A Short Stay in Hell - Steven Peck
  9. Reaper Man - Terry Pratchett

I was a bit lost after Moving Pictures as I didn’t enjoy it and felt like a needed a change. I thought I would slip into the warm bath of some Greek mythology from a feminist perspective and headed to *IthicaI by Clare North. It started fine but j was having doubts that I could manage yet another Greek myth adaptation so I parked it.

my head was turned by Boudica: Dreaming the Eagle by Manda Scott. This started well but at 400 oages in and little over half way boom 1 of 4 I wasn’t sure I was up for the marathon so I parked it.

I went onto the next Discworld book with Reaper Man and my actual goodness j loved it. This is an absolute bold and I would recommend it to anyone even those not willing to suspect disbelief enough to read a story about a world on four elephants standing on the back of a giant turtle. In this story Death gets the sack for the gross misconduct of having a personality. Getting the sack makes him mortal which means that he learns how to actually live. It was properly laugh out loud funny and exceptionally profound. Just brilliant.

after this I wanted a total change so I went for as long as the Lemon Trees Grow by Zoulfa Katouh. This started promising but I fear the audio version is going to be my undoing. This is a serious topic which focusses on women who have lost almost everything and are facing real fear and the unknown. The voice chosen doesn’t work for me. It’s too lilting and light. She sounds like she is narrating a children’s story. The discussions with a pregnant best friend are delivered as slightly whiny and petulant - like a debate about whether to get take away. I ended up turning it off as I think the story might need to be started on the page first so I can build my own voice - I can usually then cope with the enforced one. Not sure if there have been any reviews on here so open to comment

I was about to download yet another Terry lraychtt when this group reminded me of Maggie O’Farrell’s Marriage Portrait. Thank you for this. I am a huge fan of the author typically and had forgotten about this book. Fingers crossed I can actually stick to this one

C8H10N4O2 · 27/02/2024 22:15

Sadik · 27/02/2024 21:31

@C8H10N4O2 I'm not sure you'll convince Cote - but as a SF lover I like your list & will be looking up the ones I've not read :)

I aspire for marvels not miracles 😀

I confess to also quite liking Gideon the Ninth - utterly bonkers, required minimal headspace but that was what i needed at the time.

splothersdog · 28/02/2024 06:48

Crikey - this thread is racing on!
Nothing to add to the SF discussion, totally not my preferred genre.
21. Instructions for a heatwave - Maggie O'Farrell - she never disappoints- this one is definitely a bold. Focus on a Irish family living in London during the1976 heatwave. Three children all grown up are pulled back together when their father simply walks out to buy a paper one day and never returns. Characterisation is brilliant, the writing is so evocative and lovely patches of humour,
Recommend.

Tarahumara · 28/02/2024 07:38

I'm not much of a sci fi fan either (I did like The Martian), but @CoteDAzur has just convinced me to add Crytonomicon to my tbr list. I'll save it for when I'm feeling brave!

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 28/02/2024 07:42

splothersdog · 28/02/2024 06:48

Crikey - this thread is racing on!
Nothing to add to the SF discussion, totally not my preferred genre.
21. Instructions for a heatwave - Maggie O'Farrell - she never disappoints- this one is definitely a bold. Focus on a Irish family living in London during the1976 heatwave. Three children all grown up are pulled back together when their father simply walks out to buy a paper one day and never returns. Characterisation is brilliant, the writing is so evocative and lovely patches of humour,
Recommend.

I have Heatwave on my shelf for a while.
Your review encourages me to bump it up in the queue, splothersdog!

BestIsWest · 28/02/2024 08:10

Not a sci-fi fan either but also loved The Martian and made it to the end of Cryptonomicron - it was indeed very brainhurty. I don’t like Fantasy much either and having listened to The Rest Is Entertainment, am boggled by the idea of Romantasy.

HenryTilneyBestBoy · 28/02/2024 08:33

@Palegreenstars I like Du Maurier generally but swashbuckling historical DDM > gothic moody DDM!

@Stowickthevast Thank you for the potted Jemisin reviews. It sounds like our SF tastes overlap quite a bit so will be keeping an eye on your future reads!

@Kinsters I rate Jane Harper's Aaron Falk books too and find them well crafted. Also, props to her for ending that series after 3 books with proper closure rather than dragging on an increasingly grumpy detective for 20+ entries while accumulating annoying protégées….

Having binged the first few hundred pages of The Children of Time, I’m now bogged down in the ‘everyone acts like an idiot’ morass middle. The ‘science’ is essentially handwavy magic glossed with terms that seem to have been lifted from an archived Buzzfeed listicle of “20 trendy biotech words that will blow your mind!!” so unsurprised to read of his psych/law background in @C8H10N4O2 post. Not something I would normally cavil at when being so well entertained, but in light of recent discussions I wonder what the reception would have been like to a fantasy equivalent featuring e.g. dragon and unicorn telepathic intelligences and magic knowledge beans….

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 28/02/2024 11:39

Much slower than everyone else it’s seems! But

  1. the Lonley passion of Judith Hearne. Another I enjoyed, found it gripping and a surprisingly sympathetic portrayal given it was written by a man.

Made a start on number 6. Children’s Hospital by Chris Adrian this morning.

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 28/02/2024 12:26

The deals seem to be out today I've had an email full of them

FuzzyCaoraDhubh · 28/02/2024 12:47

Lastqueenofscotland2 · 28/02/2024 11:39

Much slower than everyone else it’s seems! But

  1. the Lonley passion of Judith Hearne. Another I enjoyed, found it gripping and a surprisingly sympathetic portrayal given it was written by a man.

Made a start on number 6. Children’s Hospital by Chris Adrian this morning.

I have Judith on Borrowbox and will start it soon! Glad you liked it @Lastqueenofscotland2

TimeforaGandT · 28/02/2024 13:48

I rated Heatwave too

MorriganManor · 28/02/2024 13:55

20 The New Life by Tom Crewe

Portnoy’s Complaint reimagined by Armstrong and Miller. I’m surprised I didn’t dream about penises - not in a sexual way, just there, bobbing up and down cheekily and importunately. I did like the style of it, but parts (fnaar) were inadvertently hilarious when I suspect they were not in the least tongue in cheek (oh stop it!).

Sadik · 28/02/2024 14:05

@HenryTilneyBestBoy " I wonder what the reception would have been like to a fantasy equivalent featuring e.g. dragon and unicorn telepathic intelligences "
Dare I mention Anne McCaffrey - not just telepathic dragons, but with a SF backstory (refugees from earth, genius biotech scientist working with the indigenous fire lizards etc etc). I mean, it's super, super fluffy SF, but SF it definitely is Grin

EineReiseDurchDieZeit · 28/02/2024 14:07

I'm really put off The New Life now

MorriganManor · 28/02/2024 14:12

And continuing the theme…..my second hand Christopher Fowler book purchases are beginning to arrive. I am delighted to see it has the same cover that it had all those years ago when I picked it off the library shelves, dismissed it as gay erotica then read the blurb and decided to give it a go Grin

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