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Julia (1984 retelling)

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drwitch · 21/10/2023 11:11

Anybody finished it yet and want to talk

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larkstar · 13/11/2023 11:38

I read the review for Julia on one of the online broadsheets (Guardian perhaps - I signed up to their regular "bookmarks" email about me releases, reviews, etc) and was impressed enough to want to try finishing 1984 - I've started it several times over the last 30 years but give it grew tedious after the big ideas and the scene seeing at the start.. anyway, I'm halfway through now and TBH it's showing its age badly IMHO in terms of the quality of writing - it's quite repetitive - relationships are barely explored and quite simplistic - the plot - even half way through had barely made an appearance - ugh - so much to criticise bit I know I don't know enough about the context of the times he wrote in so I've got a couple of books about Orwell to read too - I read into it (rightly or wrongly - I'm not doing lit.crit - this is what cruises my mind) that he was extremely sexually frustrated but, sad I said, I'll have to read into the background on him and the book to confirm that. 84 had some brilliant cornerstone ideas but in the hands of a modern writer it could be done better IMHO. Anyway...I have Julia all lined up to read straight after...Orwells handling of the relationship (such that it is) is quite purile - "relationship with woman"="having sex with a woman" - how crude can you get(!?) - I never found myself slamming Emily Brontë for her handling of relationships in Wuthering Heights for instance.... so, I'm not surprised someone felt the need to write from Julia's perspective. I'm wondering how, with such a simple character sketch in 1984, a whole coloured-in character can be built in Julia and remain consistent with the original. Give me a month or so, maybe more - I've also just reread Fahrenheit 451 (which impressed me more that 1984) and I'm reading a biography and critiques of Ray Bradbury. I'm not even a science fiction fan - in fact, I read very little fiction TBH.

Sethera · 19/07/2024 08:05

@drwitch I've just read it. I enjoyed it, but I agree with the point made by many reviewers, that it should have ended about 50 pages sooner than it did.

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Julia's learning to hate Big Brother made a neat and compelling counterpoint to the original Winston ending. I didn't see the need at all to ramble off into Julia escaping the regime, and the ending suggesting one corrupt regime would be replaced by another was weak and predictable; the meeting with Big Brother was an anti-climax. It was as if some so-so fan fiction sequel had been tacked onto the end of a decent novel.

That aside, I liked the backstory/alternative agenda that was created for Julia. Making her an agent of the Thought Police was a good idea; and I liked the idea that this served her no purpose in the end; her 'mission' was revealed to be no more than petty office politics and she was discarded once her purpose had been served - this seemed consistent with Orwell's view of the regime.

The exploration of rural Oceania was interesting. I was reminded of the rural famines in China following the 'Great Leap Forward'. Had Orwell lived to see it, I think the Chinese Cultural Revolution would have been of enormous interest to him and something he would have drawn on as a writer; so this section of 'Julia' felt very right.

I felt Julia's overall contempt for Winston was really an echo of contempt for the superficial way in which Orwell drew Julia's character originally - a way of saying 'there is far more to women than this'.

I'll probably have more thoughts on this but I only finished reading it yesterday.

Sethera · 19/07/2024 08:10

@larkstar Did you read 'Julia' as planned? What did you think of it?

Sweetswede · 19/07/2024 09:32

It's showing its age badly IMHO in terms of the quality of writing

It's a style of writing. Authors weren't less skilled in 1948.

Sethera · 19/07/2024 18:03

No one else want to talk about 'Julia'? Or is there another thread I have missed?

Wendyway76 · 20/07/2024 17:45

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Sethera · 20/07/2024 18:34

Is there an 'obsession' with it? I know it happens but I'm not sure it happens often enough to qualify as an obsession.

FloordrobeIsGoingToGetME · 22/07/2024 08:36

I'm looking for dystopian reads for my holiday - hadn't heard of this, will explore 👍

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