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"Under the Tuscan Sun" piss take - does anyone recognise this book?

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LaMarschallin · 10/09/2023 10:24

Some years ago I read a book that was a bit of a parody on UTTS and similar books - those featuring women (usually) going to Italy or France and renovating a big tumbledown house, usually after a big life event. Often they include local recipes for Torta della Nonna and similar.

The book I read was a novel. An English woman had taken over a house in Tuscany and was obviously trying to model herself on the sort of books I've described. The recipes given usually turned out be quite standard British things translated into Italian. Can't remember an actual one, but it would be something like "Fromaggio e Prosciutto a Pane Frito" and was basically a cheese and ham toastie. Massive apologies for the awful cod Italian, but it does give a flavour (ho ho!) of the sort of thing in the book.
Iirc, she used to quite like being called "Contessa" - obviously was no such thing - and took herself very seriously.
I can't remember if it was written in the 1st person - I'm guessing some of it must have been.
The story was based on the experiences of some guests staying with her for a couple of weeks.
Please can anyone tell me if it rings a bell for them - thanks in advance Smile

Have also read UTTS and enjoyed it so not meaning to denigrate it. I suppose the piss taking is more of this woman self-consciously trying to live like the women in the books, while not really being like them.

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watcherintherye · 10/09/2023 10:30

I don’t know what the book is, but I think I’d like to read it, if it’s as funny as it sounds!

watcherintherye · 10/09/2023 11:34

Bump - I want to read this book!

LaMarschallin · 10/09/2023 13:16

@watcherintherye

Thank you for the bump!
If we do find it, I really hope it's as amusing as I remember 🤞

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JaneJeffer · 10/09/2023 13:21

Was it Cooking with Fernet Branca?

LaMarschallin · 10/09/2023 13:56

JaneJeffer

Was it Cooking with Fernet Branca?

No, it was definitely a female protagonist.
Having said that, CWFB looks just the sort of thing and I'm definitely going to get it - thank you!

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Sadik · 10/09/2023 14:11

Can't help, but it sounds great! If you can't find it you're going to have to write it for us all @LaMarschallin

HilaryThorpe · 10/09/2023 14:22

The original Frances Mayes I think. I read it and a follow-up. Nauseatingly smug. 😂 I don't remember a novel though.

LaMarschallin · 11/09/2023 09:36

@Sadik

If you can't find it you're going to have to write it for us all

Ah... If only I had world enough and time, Sadik.
However, I find my work keeping this character-filled but sadly neglected house going takes all my time. No sooner have I managed to bring some order out of chaos, by vacuuming its floor coverings and lovingly polishing its surfaces, than it's time to start again!
However, that's the price I pay - and I pay it willingly! - for living in this little, barely-known spot in what is called the West Midlands.
When I threw back the curtains I could tell at once that some of the locals had had a fiesta, or "a piss up for the babby's birthday" as a friend who speaks Stokie explained to me. My neighbour was carrying out some clanking empty bottles to the recycling bin (one of the wonderful amenities here - it's emptied every fortnight by the most picturesque band of fellows). He noticed me gazing from from the second tier window and responded by waving his hand to tell me, I suppose, that he had two more bottles to bring out.
I confess, I still find the local dialect - that thick, gargled stream of words they produce - impenetrable, so we communicate by sign language a lot.
He started to pick up a few of the papers in which the local snack ("chippie tea") comes wrapped. No washing up! Practical as well as rustic.
All this before I wend my way downstairs for my traditional breakfast of golden flakes of maize served with milk chilled by the quaint old-fashioned refrigerator.
No ice makers or smart fridges here!
No properly working temperature dial, either, so I'll have to knock off a block of ice from its back wall later....

Actually, I'm probably being a bit unkind to UTTS. I really enjoyed it when I read it on holiday a long time ago despite it being a bit smug.
I was obviously just in the mood.
I'm definitely going to get Cooking with Fernet Branca - looks a more than adequate substitute, thank you, Jane Smile

If I ever find the other one I'll return to the thread and let you know.

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JaneJeffer · 11/09/2023 09:53

It's a good while since I read it but I remember a kind of feeling of being trapped there with the characters who are really annoying!

Write a book please @LaMarschallin

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 11/09/2023 13:50

Never going to read UTTS and its sequel in the same way again. 😆

At least it's not as bad as Peter Mayle and his 'just LOOK at these quaint French people and comical workers!'

bibliomania · 11/09/2023 22:23

I know this one - Tuscany for Beginners, by Imogen Edwards-Jones. V funny.

Flibbertigibbettytoes · 11/09/2023 22:26

I was thinking Fernet too - so funny at the time

LaMarschallin · 12/09/2023 07:42

That's the bunny, @bibliomania!
Brilliant, thank you - you've lived up to your name Smile
I've ordered that and the Fernet Branca one (plus a couple of others; can never resist a book).

Excellent start to the day!

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bibliomania · 12/09/2023 07:47

Pleased with myself! As well as UTTS, it also plays on Mapp and Lucia, by EF Benson, which I love too.

The Debt to Pleasure, by John Lanchester also has fun with the genre, although more specifically the food writing side.

LaMarschallin · 12/09/2023 08:02

You should be pleased with yourself; you've made a middle-aged woman very happy Smile

I'd forgotten about the parallels with Mapp and Lucia - I love those too.
Have you read the two other M&L books by Tom Holt? One is "Lucia in Wartime", but I can't remember the other.
I don't normally like other authors trying to carry on a series, but those really do capture EF Benson's style, imo.

Off to take a look at the Lanchester book...

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LaMarschallin · 12/09/2023 08:07

...going to have to get that too!
It's described as having an unreliable narrator and I love those.
Both the narrators in "Notes on a Scandal" by Zoe Heller and "Rachel's Holiday" by Marian Keyes pulled the wool over my eyes for a while (I'm probably quite gullible).

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ApolloandDaphne · 12/09/2023 08:13

They sound brilliant. I will take notes.

watcherintherye · 12/09/2023 08:18

Thanks for the thread, @LaMarschallin! I’m definitely going to get Tuscany for Beginners and maybe some of the others mentioned! Have you read Cold Comfort Farm? Very funny parody of some of the novels about the rigours of rural life at the time!

bibliomania · 12/09/2023 08:26

Yes, I have Lucia in Wartime and I agree Holt does very well at capturing the voice. Hope you enjoy the Lanchester.

lampshadecushion · 12/09/2023 08:29

I want to read these Italian things you are raving about. But none of them are available for Kindle, and my arthritic hands don't like proper books 🙁 I suppose if you lot are all pushing them up the charts, they might get made into Kindle one day.....

Words · 12/09/2023 08:57

That sounds tough @lampshadecushion .
I've ordered both. Right up my street. Or should that be vicolo. Grin

LaMarschallin · 12/09/2023 11:08

watcherintherye
Have you read Cold Comfort Farm?

Definitely one of my Desert Island books Smile

lampshadecushion

That must be horribly frustrating, my sympathies. I had some weird arthritic-type thing last year. No absolute diagnosis: could be gout, could be RA...
Fingers crossed (which was something I couldn't do then) it's not returned, but it was maddening not to be able to do some really basic things.

I've ordered my books from World of Books which is a website for selling 2nd hand books. I've been quite impressed with it: free delivery, good prices and (for books under £5) if you buy 3 you get a 4th free. I've bought CWFB, TfB, a non-fiction Jilly Cooper and a replacement for a book about Greek mythology that I had when I was 13 or so and is now literally falling apart for £11.80.
I promise it's not my company (I wish!), but DH and I have been very taken with it so thought it was worth letting keen readers know about it.
Edit: Meant to say, I couldn't find the Lanchester on WoB but will definitely be getting it elsewhere.
Should all keep me occupied for a while...

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LaMarschallin · 12/09/2023 11:17

Just checked again and WoB do have the Lanchester - goodness knows what I was typing in 1st thing this morning Blush
Off to pop that into my virtual rustic, locally-woven basket with which I always go a-marketing!
Or e-marketing...

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JaneJeffer · 12/09/2023 11:20

I had problems with WOB where the book I ordered didn't show up so they sent a replacement which didn't show up either but they did issue a refund after that. I think there was a postal strike in the UK around that time so God knows where they ended up. It's put me off using them now even though their customer service is very good.

LaMarschallin · 12/09/2023 12:46

Yes, I can see an experience like that would be off-putting.
I've been lucky so far, so hoping my current order arrives without problems as I'm really looking forward to it after this thread.

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