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📚The Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group - All welcome to join📚

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Antarcticant · 01/09/2022 16:44

Welcome to the Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group, where we will be reading and discussing fiction from the 1930s to the 1990s that would have been described as 'contemporary' in its day.

The best introduction to the 'rather dated' concept would be to read the wonderful thread which inspired this group:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/what_were_reading/4596284-rather-dated?reply=119670989

To summarise, a number of posters expressed disappointment that literature of the 20th Century is often dismissed as 'rather dated' because society has moved on from many of the values and lifestyles described.

We decided to create a reading group where the literary merits of such fiction can be appreciated, with any 'rather dated' elements being a point of interest rather than a reason to dismiss a novel.

We will be reading one book a month. Our first book, for September, will be the book that inspired the original thread:

The Road to Lichfield by Penelope Lively

Please do join the thread whether you want to take part in the discussion or just place mark to follow it.

Fellow Rather Dated people, please add anything important I might have missed!

(With huge thanks to ImJustMadAboutSaffron for the original thread and idea Flowers)

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woodhill · 12/11/2022 19:59

Howeverdoyouneedme · 12/11/2022 19:55

It’s a very different experience listening to a book, and the narrator makes all the difference.

I would love to try a Margaret Drabble, who I have just found out is A S Byatt’s sister.

Yes I've got a talking book but tbh I prefer to read.

I may listen in the car but will it be distracting or will I miss the detail

frustratedacademic · 12/11/2022 20:43

I'll second "A summer bird cage", @StellaOlivetti. I'll have to dig out my ancient battered Penguin.

tobee · 12/11/2022 21:15

Ooh good. I read The Garrick Year last year because I always remember it was in my mum's bookshelf when I was growing up. But I fancy reading something I've not yet read. Happy with Summer Birdcage. Or other suggestions. Smile

tobee · 12/11/2022 21:15

Mind you haven't begun A Start in Life yet.

tobee · 12/11/2022 21:18

Always intrigued by MD and AS Byatt relationship!

I was once in a lift with AS Byatt! Grin

Jojoanna · 13/11/2022 06:07

I adore summer birdcage. I too read it as a teenager. Was my mums copy.

MadgeMarple · 13/11/2022 08:09

I have obviously found a perfect fit of a book club - scoured my shelves and found I had a copy of A Summer Bird Cage.

Still reading the Brookner - I like it enough but not loving it. Yet.

rifling · 13/11/2022 08:27

Can I make a suggestion? Could we have a separate thread for the actual discussion of each book e.g "Rather dated - BLACK NARCISSUS" and keep this for general discussion? I'm finding it a bit hard to follow and that way people could post their thoughts whenever they finish reading - or before. Mind you, I'm easily confused these days so please ignore if it doesn't bother anyone else!

MotherofPearl · 13/11/2022 09:24

Very happy with A Summer Bird Cage.

StellaOlivetti · 13/11/2022 09:40

Did you speak to A S Byatt in the lift, @tobee ?

frustratedacademic · 13/11/2022 11:19

rifling · 13/11/2022 08:27

Can I make a suggestion? Could we have a separate thread for the actual discussion of each book e.g "Rather dated - BLACK NARCISSUS" and keep this for general discussion? I'm finding it a bit hard to follow and that way people could post their thoughts whenever they finish reading - or before. Mind you, I'm easily confused these days so please ignore if it doesn't bother anyone else!

I agree, @rifling

frustratedacademic · 13/11/2022 16:30

I've created a thread for the Lively book so people who've finished the book can start chatting about it sooner: "Rather Dated" November: Penelope Lively, A Start in Life http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/whatweree_reading/4676621-rather-dated-november-penelope-lively-a-start-in-life

ChessieFL · 13/11/2022 17:24

@frustratedacademic you might want to ask MNHQ to amend the title - it’s Anita Brookner not Penelope Lively!

frustratedacademic · 13/11/2022 17:27

ChessieFL · 13/11/2022 17:24

@frustratedacademic you might want to ask MNHQ to amend the title - it’s Anita Brookner not Penelope Lively!

Gah! Will do Blush

woodhill · 13/11/2022 17:30

I've got both but not read either yet

frustratedacademic · 13/11/2022 17:32

Thanks @ChessieFL, reported

RoyalCorgi · 13/11/2022 20:41

StellaOlivetti · 12/11/2022 19:58

A summer bird cage? I believe it was Margaret Drabble’s first book, or an early one anyway. Loved it as a teenager, thought it was just so sophisticated! Would love to read it again

I read it as a teenager (we're talking 40+ years ago) and I remember being blown away by the glamour and the sophistication. It was one of those books I kept coming back to for years - I must have read it 20 or 30 times. The sad thing is that as a teenager you have a hope that your adult life might be equally sophisticated, but in reality mine has turned out to be rather dull and pedestrian. I'm not sure I could bear to read it again knowing how things actually turned out.

Gosh, I've put a real downer on it, haven't I.

tobee · 14/11/2022 02:34

StellaOlivetti · 13/11/2022 09:40

Did you speak to A S Byatt in the lift, @tobee ?

Gosh no! I was far too bashful! I always worry that I'll be intruding! I just did surreptitious looking! Grin She looked fabulously author like!

tobee · 15/11/2022 02:04

Just spotted the rather dated Brookner thread. Can I be cheeky and ask for the book 📚 emojis to be added to the thread title so I don't miss these as they come up please?

frustratedacademic · 15/11/2022 07:38

tobee · 15/11/2022 02:04

Just spotted the rather dated Brookner thread. Can I be cheeky and ask for the book 📚 emojis to be added to the thread title so I don't miss these as they come up please?

Great idea!

tobee · 17/11/2022 01:22

My copy of A Summer Birdcage is here!

📚The Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group - All welcome to join📚
tobee · 17/11/2022 01:23

Once again I got a job lot from eBay! My Margaret Drabble hoard!:-

📚The Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group - All welcome to join📚
JaneJeffer · 17/11/2022 01:44

Lovely covers @tobee

StellaOlivetti · 17/11/2022 14:40

Here’s my copy!

📚The Mumsnet 'Rather Dated' Book Group - All welcome to join📚
Mirabai · 17/11/2022 15:29

Great idea for a thread, and interested in all the suggestions.

I’m a big fan of ‘rather dated’ novels in general - especially Murdoch, Lehman, Elizabeths Bowen, Taylor and Jenkins, can’t stand Barbara Pym though.

Has Rose Macaulay been mentioned? She’s a game old bird.

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