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Little discoveries about little obscurities on books

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Dilbertian · 02/08/2022 13:36

In Ballet Shoes the girls' tutors call tea-break 'Beaver time'. I've just discovered that this was probably because the idea of tea as a light snack between meals was invented at Belvoir Castle, and Belvoir is pronounced Beaver.

Ah, little things can be sooo pleasing 😊

What pleasing discoveries have you made about obscure curiosities in books?

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HumphreyCobblers · 02/08/2022 13:44

in one of the Laura Ingalls wilder books the strange ball of fire that appears is a documented case of ball lightning. I first read about ball lightning in Arthur C Clarke "World of strange Mysteries".

sleepymum50 · 02/08/2022 13:54

I can’t remember which book it was that I learned this.

Our house originally had an old Rayburn with a bread oven next to it. I first thought this meant the bread was cooked in it.

The bread oven has no direct heating, but is just an enclosed space next to a heat source that was warm enough for proving the bread in a house that would have had no warm spots. Ie before central heating and airing cupboards and boilers.

I also like the historical details in the Poldark series.I remember an account of couple coming back to the house when the servants are away. They want to have a cup of tea, but first have to draw the water from the well and make up a fire.

Dilbertian · 02/08/2022 17:04

That's how come newborn lambs were kept warm in the oven in some of the Herriot novels! It never made any sense to me.

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CowPalace · 03/08/2022 13:54

Excellent thread idea!

For anyone who reads Victorian fiction, Judith Flanders’ The Victorian house is excellent for illuminating little domestic details — like Mrs Fairfax giving Leah the keys of the storeroom when she asks her to make Jane Eyre a hot negus and a sandwich. Even in a tiny household with longterm, trusted under-servants, the mistress or housekeeper would keep household items and foodstuffs locked away from pilfering and waste. Negus involved wine or port, sugar, spices, and oranges or lemons, so ‘prestige’ ingredients a servant wouldn’t be trusted with free access to.

Mealtimes differing between households in Jane Austen as a sign of different levels of fashionability — Elizabeth in Pride and Prejudice gets a note from Jane (who got a cold riding to Netherfield and stayed the night) at the Bennet breakfast time, and has time to finish her meal and walk three miles cross-country and still arrive at Netherfield on time for their much later breakfast. It was a sign of money, city-fied ways and fashion to have late meals — in part because it was cheaper to make dinner by daylight and not have to pay for lamps/candles, which meant in winter eating by mid-afternoon..

Riverlee · 04/08/2022 21:27

’Girl with a Louding Voice’ contained a lot of information about Nigeria. It was fascinating.

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