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If you read a book with this in it, would you like it? I mean, would you want to read a book like this?? HONESTY ONLY please.

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Hecate · 18/01/2008 08:00

I'm writing a book about being a mum of kids with autism. But I don't think I'm doing very well and am about to abandon it.

I do not want to waste my time - and I can take it if you tell me that my writing is a bit pants!

I have pasted 2 little bits of my book for you to take a look at, if you feel like it and if you have time (I'm not ordering you or anything.... )

Please be honest, if you think I'm not good enough and I am fooling myself, please say so, I shall not be at all offended.

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I read somewhere that dolphins are never fully asleep. That only half their brain is sleeping at a time. I know what that's like because I have been doing that for nearly 8 years. The slightest noise and I am awake and ready to go, or more accurately, to prevent/ restrain or rescue. On this occasion however, the footsteps were approaching, not trying to sneak down the stairs or into the bathroom. I opened an eye. Horizontal was standing by the bed. "For Mummy" he said and extended his arms, hands clasped together. "Hurg a murgle" I grunted. I don't regain the power of speech until at least my 4th coffee but roughly translated it's "A present for mummy? How kind, thank you".

I held out my hand. This was a rookie mistake and I should have known better. Rule no 1. Always look first. Anyway, too late and I was now holding a large, warm, slightly moist poo. "Mwrunf" I said ("Thank you".)

I'm dreading Mother's Day.

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This second bit is something I wrote yonks ago for a blog I was doing but abandoned, and have now stuck in my book attempt!

International Tantrum Scale explained.

I.T.S. 1
The smallest eruption on the ITS. Characterised by reddening of face and stiffening of limbs. Accompanied by high pitched wailing and 'Mexican wave' type tremble beginning at subject's toes and ending by vibrating of subject's hair.
Diffusion Strategies
Make 'em laugh. Pull a silly face, do a daft dance, they forget to paddy! (Although you are subsequently banned from Tesco)

I.T.S.2
More violent than the I.T.S.1, but still manageable. Contains all the characteristics of the I.T.S.1, with the helpful addition of holding of breath until subject loses consciousness. Variation on the I.T.S.2 is for subject to retain consciousness, but to retch until lunch is regurgitated over hapless parent.
Diffusion Strategies
Alone time. Secure area. Walk away. (not suitable in all environments)

I.T.S.3
Subject resorts to fisticuffs. Flailing of limbs becomes less random and instead is aimed at hapless parent's head and sensitive bits. Subject may also grab breakable objects nearby and hurl them with unerring accuracy at hapless parent's head. Screaming now beats Boeing 747 for sheer volume, with added bonus of being so highly pitched that every window in the house is shattered. Hapless parents glasses are also, sadly, lost at this time.
Diffusion Strategies
Squash-em-and-see. Sit on subject. Wrap arms and legs round body and tuck head into back of subject, to protect yourself! Hapless parent permitted to amuse self by putting hand repeatedly over subject's mouth to create wa-wa-wa-wa sound. Ensure subject has no access to weapon or hapless parent for 48 hours after indulging in this high-risk form of entertainment.

I.T.S.4
Remarkable combination of I.T.S.1, 2 and 3, plus scream so shrill that only dogs can hear it. Methodical and well-planned smashing of everything breakable and many things marketed as unbreakable. Glorious smearing of subject's faeces over walls, floor, cat and hapless parent. Series of punches, kicks and bites that would floor Tyson. Hapless parent subsequently sports wonderful black eye and split lip, prompting questions about state of hapless parent's marriage. Subject may also experience head rotation and spontaneous expulsion of pea soup.
Diffusion Strategies
Call in SAS. They have tear gas and bazookas.

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newshmoo · 10/04/2008 17:48

I think your writing is funny and honest, I also think anyone with similar circumstances would find a lot of comfort in your words and inspiration. Its great reading for any parent though, the first parts style is definitely more of the human touch and its was my preference. Keep it up if you enjoy it as others do too!

ally90 · 23/04/2008 15:14

I never knew autism could be like that..... agree first bit really readable, liked the style of writing, definately wanted to read more. Liked the second bit, made me and .

Jackstini · 23/04/2008 15:19

Keep going Hec! I have no experience of Autism but found it interesting, light hearted and informative.
Would be a great read for parents and teachers/childminders etc. alike

SixSpotBurnet · 23/04/2008 15:23

Hecate, it's brilliant! Please carry on!

claireybee · 23/04/2008 15:34

Really good

I think a writing course could possibly stop you from writing such an honest account-might make you get bogged down in the technicalities...

I also think (if that is worth anything!)that you could easily incorporate the Tantrum scale into the book

BEAUTlFUL · 23/04/2008 15:38

I loved it. I loved your style and you have wonderful comic timing. I wouldn't do a writing course if I were you, just write the book!

You're very talented. Well done you!

moondog · 23/04/2008 15:39

It's great.
I was perusing small quantity of books written by parents of kids with Autism in Borders yesterday and thinknig there should be more.

I think it's a great way of educating population at large about the subject in an entertaining way (I hope that doesn't sound rude.I don't mean to belittle your son's difficulties,merely trying to say that people can learn about this stuff in a non preachy way).

I know a lot of people who read George & Sam for such a reason.

BEAUTlFUL · 23/04/2008 15:40

claireybee, sorry that made it look like I was disagreeing specifically with your post! Didn't mean to... I just think a writing course might take too long and be more of a distraction than anything. Hecate can def write, so just get it done and send it off.

shrinkingsagpuss · 23/04/2008 15:42

Hecate its excellent - don't change what you write to concur with MN "not dones" like "paddy", say what you want to say, that way it comes naturally, and flows.

claireybee · 23/04/2008 15:59

LOL Beautiful, I also meant that she shouldn't bother with a course

staryeyed · 23/04/2008 21:35

I think its great. I think the openness and honesty is what make sit appealing. The bit about feeding really struck a cord with me. I thought exactly that. I think its so valuable to have insight into other peoples lives and know that someone else goes through the same things and feels the same emotions.

Grammar Schmammer its fine just the way it is.

twofishes · 23/04/2008 21:50

Hecate ..I have read all the extracts and they are brilliant I am wanting to read more NOW!!...I think that the two different styles would mix well in a book and also would work very well printed in an extract or regular column in a publication of some sort
I am only a book reader no intellectual or writer but I would definately buy , read and recommend!!
Keep writing (and let us know when you are published!)

Hecate · 24/04/2008 07:33

Thanks folks! I am getting on with it slowly because, well, what with mumsnet and the kids (in no particular order ) I don't have a lot of time. But it's coming along.

You'd better feckin well buy it now!

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WanderingTrolley · 24/04/2008 07:56

Hecate I think it's all brilliant and hilarious and I love the way you write about your children. It's entertaining and insightful, which is a devil of a combination to master.

I think the different bits - short anecdotal passage, ITS etc - work well together. Like 100x says, who's your reader? I imagine parents, mostly, and who has time to sit and read a lengthy chapter? Isn't it much easier to have a book that you can read in small chunks at a time? Not that I'm suggesting you keep it that, and don't have any longer bits, but I think it all has a place. Is autism predictable, does it follow an expected path, should a book about it be? It doesn't have to have a conventional style. You could intersperse it with blog/diary entries to illustrate a point.

I have read very little about autism and I would buy your book like a shot.

MinW · 24/04/2008 08:05

Hecate go for it! I love the warmth and humour that is comning across especially in the 2nd paragraph. My nephew has aspergers and I know how much shared experience and humour helps my brother and SIL. You would definitely have book sales from all of us.

MarsLady · 24/04/2008 08:12

Keep at it Hecate! Great stuff!

Uki · 27/04/2008 11:47

Hi Hecate

I understand your nervousness, as i too am trying to write, it is hard to imagine what others will think.

I think you are amazing to write about autism, with humour at all that to me is, well amazing.

and also very clever, but for me it wouldn't be that necessary for the read i'd be just intrested in the honest truth of it all too.

Anyway what i'm trying to say is go for it. From what i know about getting published (not a lot) is most books end up needing to be re written. Also there are plenty of workshops/grants/programs to help first time writers. i'm in Oz so can't help you with many links that are relevant, but check out things in your area you might be surprised.

Janni · 27/04/2008 12:12

Yes - keep going with it, you've got something there

lizziemun · 27/04/2008 12:39

Go for it, I like the style of you first pieces of writing. I am always interested in reading book like yours, to get an idea of how difficult/different (not sure if that the right word)other peoples lives are IYSWIM.

I have to say we must have some one on MN who is in publishing/writing who can help point you in the right direction.

MNersanonymous · 29/04/2008 20:00

Hi

I've got a book coming out in September and another in the Spring (well, if I finish it in time that is). Both incidentally will be of interest to MN'ers but I shall keep you in suspense for now!

I'd be happy to tell you a bit more about my experience of finding a publisher.

If you take a look at some of the publishers' websites you'll see notes on how they like submissions to be done. They all vary a bit (and some only take submissions via agents).

One thing I think might be valuable would be to draw up a proposal for the book - it's very much like doing a business plan and helps clarify who you are writing for, how your book differs from others on the same subject etc.

If you CAT me I can send you a template.

I took my book to three publishers and agents before the fourth company said yes. I'm glad I ended up with them as they seem to be the right one for me - we seem a good match.

(Please don't take my MN posts as an indicator of whether I can write or not, I'm not in work mode now! MNersanonymous scuttles away paranoid.....)

GustWriter · 06/06/2008 16:22

Carry on, its good stuff but take another look at your past tenses - they're a bit erratic.

mistypeaks · 06/06/2008 16:33

Yes keep going. It is a lovely style. Amusing and warm.. and you know how the Great British Public loves a good "poo" story .
It is refreshing to read an account of life with a SN Child(ren) that doesn't come across as "preachy" or "poor me" (that relates to media type accounts not MN accounts).

TinkerbellesMum · 06/06/2008 18:51

That brings back memories of my childhood, my brother was undiagnosed as having Asperger's (they said when he was late teens "we think he has Asperger's but he's too old to worry about diagnosing now") and I can remember some of those tantrums you explained so well.

I remember one in church where Mum had to just take him home and leave us there (Grandad was pastor). She fell on top of him with the force of him throwing himself around in her arms and he wasn't a small child. People started tutting and Grandad had to tell them to shut up, ignore it and let his mother deal with him.

Another time it got so bad Mum asked me to call his SW as she was otherwise occupied. He tried to eat through the phone wire to stop me and bit my knee. Eventually Mum sent me there - it was just around the corner fortunately and I managed to run there, leaving me feeling rather ill!

Combination of onions and those memories making me feel a little teary.

Anyway, well done, it sounds great and I definitely want to hear more.

TinkerbellesMum · 06/06/2008 18:59

I'm going back now and reading the other posts.

I don't agree that the second part sounds like an article, it's too funny, but in that way of it's funny because I've (the writer or reader) been there rather than taking the mickey, if that makes sense. I was laughing and crying reading that, see my last post. It's personalising a standard chart, (I'm assuming you have done) which I do think works.

The other post is brilliant, similar to your first bit.

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