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Which authors' success is a complete mystery to you?

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emkana · 13/01/2008 19:15

Tony Parsons

Jodi Picoult

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LoveAngel · 15/01/2008 07:23

Only read the last few posts here.

Martin Amis - hideous man, awful writing

Disagree with Zadie Smith, though. I thought 'On Beauty' was incredibly sophisticated and dealt beautifully wit issues of race and class in America. Think there were signs of a truly great writer coming through there.

redadmiral · 15/01/2008 09:37

Martin is really not popular with women!!

Monkeytrousers · 15/01/2008 10:51

Martin Amis wrote a great essay about pornography. Why do women not like him?

redadmiral · 15/01/2008 11:13

Yes, his essays are great. Have you read 'The Moronic Inferno'?

Sunshinemummy · 15/01/2008 11:18

I've read four Martin Amis books and found them all dull. I don't understand the fuss either. I love Salman Rushdie though - his books are fab, full of colourful characters and wonderful language.

I also do not like Sebastian Faulks and cannot understand the fuss. I found Birdsong really boring.

margoandjerry · 15/01/2008 11:57

I quite like Martin Amis but I hate Kingsley Amis.

"So one day I was really drunk and I met my old pal Drunkenoldsoak in the pub and a lady walked past and I pinched her bum"

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hifi · 15/01/2008 12:53

john grisham
martina cole
catherine cookson
kathy lette
aherne who buys it?
barbra cartland
any autobiography by someone under 40

margoandjerry · 15/01/2008 13:10

ohmygod...Kathy Lette. Will someone please tell that damn woman that puns are not funny

hifi · 15/01/2008 13:15

it really annoys me that they all become really wealthy, for being crap.

Sunshinemummy · 15/01/2008 14:03

Oh I totally agree re. Kathy Lette - her books are just awful.

Sobernow · 15/01/2008 14:04

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scottishmummy · 15/01/2008 14:06

Kathy lette peurile verbal dribble

LoveAngel · 15/01/2008 14:08

I liked Kathy Lette in her early days. I was younger, she was younger, her jokes were still fresh. These days, I just find her intensely irritating.

ElenyaTuesday · 15/01/2008 14:15

Yes, definitely agree re Salman Rushdie and JK Rowling. Turgid stuff.

I also hate E.M. Forster - started three of his books thinking "well, this one must be better" but no, I had to give up on all of them because they were so dull.

Scampmum · 15/01/2008 14:26

Faulks
Khaled Hosseini (ducks)
Houllebecq
Dan Brown
JK Rowling
Terry Pratchett (ducks again)
Flaubert (disclaimer: could have been the translation)

Depends on whether 'rated' means rated for reading pleasure (Dan Brown, JK Rowling etc.) or if people genuinely think they are great at writing. Or do people not differentiate?

LoveAngel · 15/01/2008 15:18

I enjoyed 'The Da Vinci Code' at the time, although it isn't terrific writing. It kept me gripped on a long, boring train journey, anyhow. One of my favourite novels of all time is 'Wuthering Heights' which is, arguably, incredibly self indulgent and wordy. And Jane Austen - a fantastically clever and skillful writer - leaves me yawning. So, yes, I do differentiate to a certain extent. (Although I draw the line at Amis. Don't like his writing personally and think he is pretty darn overrated generally ).
I think it's safe to say that most pop fiction - the whole chicklit genre for example - is quite frowned upon by people who consider themselves serious readers. I don't write it off so easily, though. I'm a Lit graduate, have read most of the classics, enjoy 'literature, dahling'...but I also quite enjoy a good old Jackie Collins or Barbara Taylor Bradford on a beach holiday, and I think some of those pulp fiction American writers - Elmore Leonard, Laurence Shames et al- are utterly brilliant.

Sorry for the waffle. It's nice to talk books :-)

Spidermama · 15/01/2008 15:21

JK Rowling.

Charles Dickens.

Homer.

LoveAngel · 15/01/2008 15:24

The thing about Rowling is...she writes for kids, doesn't she? We're not meant to think it's great writing, judging her in adult terms, at least. I mean, only weirdy adults like Potter, don't they? (runs for cover)

barbarianoftheuniverse · 15/01/2008 16:12

Crikey Spider and they call me Barbarian of the Universe!

Spidermama · 15/01/2008 16:25
Grin
Yummers · 15/01/2008 16:26

J K Rowling. There, i've said it

Yummers · 15/01/2008 16:27

oh, now i've looked at the thread i see i'm not the first!

UnquietDad · 15/01/2008 17:02

Agree about de Botton. Indeed, any novelist with a "de" in their name.

Rowling isn't a bad writer - in fact she is averagely good. It's just her sales which are out of all proportion.

To be fair, only a small proportion of novelists beocme really wealthy. Good ones and crap ones included. 95% survive on the kind of income which would make a nurse or a dustman gawp...

(and make any woman hoping her DH would support her run a mile...)

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