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MaryAnnSingleton · 07/01/2008 09:49

... dreary isn't it ? Am reading it for book group and it's very wordy and fiull of cross people so far, a bit like a not funny Cold Comfort Farm - does it improve ?

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ahundredtimes · 07/01/2008 10:06

Oh now I've got a lot of time for Austen. She's shrewd and dry though, in comparison, but there's room for that I think.

[dry and shrewd emoticon]

MaryAnnSingleton · 07/01/2008 10:07

now I liked Jane Eyre and loved Persuasion (did that too for A level)- have re read that and still love it...it's spare,whereas WH seems so relentlessly wordy - I will persevere if I possibly can.

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lalalonglegs · 07/01/2008 10:07

at LoveAngel not liking Jane Austen - so funny and bitchy and sad all at the same time. Perfectly describes the torture of being expected to fit into some passive woman role in the 1800s - the sitting around, waiting for something to happen, the lack of choices, the claustrophobia.

ahundredtimes · 07/01/2008 10:07

Yes dream-like is a good way to describe it. I read it over and over from about 14 onwards. Haven't re-read mind.

MaryAnnSingleton · 07/01/2008 10:09

yes, love the claustrophobia of Austen - where they take a turn about the room in order tobreak the monotony of sitting

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HairyIrene · 07/01/2008 10:10

maryann
i think it depends on what age you read certain books
i re-read wuthering heights in adultdome and it was a different book!

i found this with even catcher in the rye too

i would persist though...
brrr its chilly on them moors...brrrrr....

FrannyandZooey · 07/01/2008 10:10

I mean a bit over dramatic sometimes, maybe, but dreary?

MaryAnnSingleton · 07/01/2008 10:11

well dreary so far,in my opinion - I am willing to be convinced otherwise as I plod on

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MrsJohnCusack · 07/01/2008 10:12

not amssively keen on Wuthering Heights I must say. interesting point about not having read it as an impressionable teenager - I didn't read it until I was in my 20s - maybe that's why I don't like it much

Jane Eyre is THE most erotic book ever written IMHO. it is utterly brilliant

TheGoatofBitterness · 07/01/2008 10:14

i loved teh whole utter consuming passion of it but then as a self obsessed crazed teenager it all seemed quite acceptable. i suspect now i would be tutting and saying 'fgs, linton is much nicer and so clean and rich', heh ho.

HairyIrene · 07/01/2008 10:14

yeh, dreary is a bit unfair...

but if you dont click with it...they dont throw you out book clubs for not finishing them do they

ahundredtimes · 07/01/2008 10:14

Try reading it out loud MAS. I think that might make a difference. Lock yourself away and get lost in the wordiness.

I tell you that Charlotte did erotic well. Have you ever read Vilette? Cor.

I read Dickens as an adult though, never read before, I mean I read in my 30s. He's a bit big isn't he? And I read Tess as a grown-up - that's just porn.

lalalonglegs · 07/01/2008 10:15

Note to self: re-read Jane Eyre. Read it as teenager and really hated it... (made to read Villette at university and loathed that).

FrannyandZooey · 07/01/2008 10:15

I didn't read it until in 20s but I am quite a teenagey person even now so maybe that helps

I must say I don't have the urge to reread it frequently, unlike Jane Eyre

it's a bit like eating a whole box of very rich chocolates with strange things in them like mustard

ahundredtimes · 07/01/2008 10:16

Oh no, she must finish. She must light candles and read it out loud, in a draught.

MaryAnnSingleton · 07/01/2008 10:17

no, but I'm renowned for being a bit picky about books, which I suppose is the point of a book group- they'll just think I'm being difficult...
Also,another point, am irritated by having to read Joseph's dialogue written in dialect...

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TheGoatofBitterness · 07/01/2008 10:18

i read villette recently - lovely, alot less draughts. i found the xenephobia a bit hard to stomach though.

BandofMothers · 07/01/2008 10:19

Jane Austen is amazing. There is so much behind her writing, and the more I read them the more I see in them. I loved the film Becoming jane and can imagine that she was perhaps like that in rl, dashing off to write down something someone said and using it later in a book. In that film you see a lot of the characters from her books int he people around her. Obviously this is largely speculation, apart from what they got from her letters and such, but I love her quote about "The more I see of the world the more I am dissatisfied with it, and I think this is what she herself felt. I also think I relate to her books more now, having lived in the real world, rather than the safe, teenage world.

I agree about WH, it is a wonderfully romantic book, with the notion of soulmates, and undying love, but as Cathy knew, you can't live on love alone, so she chose the rich guy, and then she learnt that you can't deny your love and suffered for it, sorry to ruin it, but you don't want to read it and I'm hoping you wont care, or that iot might whet your appetite to know more
I think this is why it appeals to teenagers who haven't really experienced real life love and relationships and who still think that it is all sweeping of your feet, longing glances and wonderful, when in fact they discover the reality and have lived longer in the real world, you are perhaps less likely to enjoy this book if you are already a littel jaded.

ahundredtimes · 07/01/2008 10:19

Right, I must go and do things now. I shall be starey-eyed all day. This thread has cheered me up enormously.

MAS - do it OUT LOUD, gawn, and the dialect bits. And report back. Betcha you'll get into it.

revgreen · 07/01/2008 10:19

I thought it was very gloomy. Absolutly everybody is miserable all the time. I do find Jane Eyre very erotic.

MaryAnnSingleton · 07/01/2008 10:20

ok ok ! will try reading out loud in Yorkshire accent !

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revgreen · 07/01/2008 10:21

I hated Josephs dialect too. I just skipped through his bits.

HairyIrene · 07/01/2008 10:21

never read jane eyre
or cold comfort farm either

if you cant go back and click with it mas, i'd leave it...
not enough to time to read if it doesnt do something for me..

LoveAngel · 07/01/2008 10:21

See, that's the thing. I know I really should like Jane Austen. I like her themes. I think she's a very, very clever woman. But I just find her novels go on and on and bloody on, and I always feel very removed from her characters. i never connect with them in the way I feel I am supposed to, and that other readers obviously do.

BandofMothers · 07/01/2008 10:23

If you have to read it and dont want to get it on cd, and listen to it in the car. I find a book on tape makes driving muchmore interesting, and you are also doing something else so you are not feeling like you are wasting your time.

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