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Emily trilogy by LM Montgomery

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Frogsonglue · 18/11/2021 13:06

I've just re-read this series which I loved as a pre-teen, and am bursting to discuss it with someone! Although I've romped through all three books in a couple of days, and enjoyed them on the whole, there are a few things which have really bothered me.

  1. Dean Priest is an actual paedophile, who grooms Emily from age 12, negs her, attempts to isolate her from her friends, and yet he's supposed to be a sympathetic character?!
  2. Generally, there is a lot of uncomfortable sexualising of young Emily by older men in her life, and comments about girls/women's value being in their looks and charm rather than their intelligence or personality, and this goes largely unchallenged.
  3. Teddy Kent's mum and Ilse's dad are child abusers.
  4. The ending is crap!! It's like she got so far and then just couldn't be bothered working out a plot that would naturally bring Emily and Teddy together, so just tied it all up in a few short paragraphs that are totally unconnected to everything that went before.
  5. I'm gutted that someone as bright as Emily didn't go out into the world and really get to know and challenge herself (eg like Anne of Green Gables does) before finding love and settling down as we assume she will.
Anyone have any thoughts?!
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PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 18/11/2021 17:14

2 wasn't just the men! What was the old aunt called, with the swallows in the chimney?

She said something like "your ankles will do more for you with men than your brains ever could".

I might have a re-read...

YesPleaseMary · 18/11/2021 17:17

Oh god yes Dean Priest was a total creep. Surely even then someone would have warned him off her.

I don’t think there was anything wrong at all with Cousin Jimmy.

Emily should have married Perry. They’d have conquered the world together.

Frogsonglue · 18/11/2021 19:09

Urgh yes Great-aunt Nancy, she was vile. And yes to Emily and Perry. Can't work out what the appeal was in Teddy really.

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HelenaRavenclaw · 18/11/2021 19:34

I've loved Anne of Green Gables since childhood but discovered Emily of New Moon just a few months ago. I listened to the first audiobook and instantly fell in love with Emily and the beautiful, spirituality-infused descriptions of nature, Emily's 'flash' moments, etc. Listening to it was a relaxing, therapeutic experience at first, and I wondered why Emily wasn't as popular as Anne.
But then Dean Priest came along...and I just could not understand how the author expected us to view that creep as a noble character. He is so manipulative and vile and disgusting! I think this post I found sums it up very nicely Grin:
lazulisong.tumblr.com/post/160537322071/whos-dean-priest

Frogsonglue · 18/11/2021 19:54

Yes!! That tumblr is bang on. I'm feeling a bit cheated; I was really looking forward to reading it these again but had blanked out just how big a storyline paedo Dean is. Also the last book is just...awful. Emily's so depressed, she's lost all her spark, she just hangs around New Moon for YEARS while her friends are seeing the world and fulfilling their ambitions. It's just tragic. I hope at least she's able to ride on Teddy's success far away from that stifling place, and get her mojo back. And boring and two-dimensional as Teddy is, he does genuinely love her and want her to be her best self.

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meringue33 · 18/11/2021 20:05

I LOVE those books

I think it’s semi autobiographical isn’t it? LM Montgomery also stayed in PE Island but became a successful writer.

Frogsonglue · 18/11/2021 20:09

Yes I guess the point at the end of book 2 was that she needed to stay on PEI to be able to write in her true voice; I just can't bear how miserable and lonely it makes her! I hadn't realised they were semi-autobiographical; that maybe explains a little why LMM put her through that. Anne got to have way more fun and adventure before she settles down with Gilbert; I feel angry on Emily's behalf that she didn't get to do any of that! (Bit over-invested perhaps Blush)

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Frogsonglue · 18/11/2021 20:10

Mr Carpenter would probably have something to say about my overuse of the semi-colon.

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PumpkinCrumble · 18/11/2021 20:17

Aww wow I read these as a young teen….Actually I think my school library only had the first two books….I bought the Virago versions a few years ago but haven’t got round to reading them yet! This thread has defo inspired me and love that Tumblr post!

OverTheWater · 18/11/2021 20:25

Place marking . . . I have a week old baby girl named Emily - friend texted me New Moon? when she heard the name - yep. I'll be starting the re read soon. (As soon as I can keep my eyes open for long enough).

I love that Emily is such a strong character and so serious. I can't be serious for a moment and have no imagination. Naturally I suppose that type of personality does lend itself to depressive episodes but it doesn't feel self indulgent in the book.

I also have a relative with learning disabilities so Cousin Jimmy really struck a chord without being a stereotype. Such an unusual thing to come across in a book of any era (and so much better than Dick in the Anne books).

PumpkinCrumble · 19/11/2021 10:28

Think I’m going to download them on Kindle. Saw the whole trilogy for 99p last night….

MsAmerica · 22/11/2021 20:04

Wow, you're thinking of it much more intellectually and analytically than I did.

I read it relatively recently for the first time, within the last few years, but I generally try to resist forcing 21st century interpretations on situations from an earlier era. I'm particularly wary of casually using loaded words like "paedophile" to describe situations that aren't criminal. I didn't much like it, but that was just my disappointment in comparison with Anne of Green Gables, which, I agree, is better written and more interesting.

And then, of course, I realized why Emily isn't spoken of as much as Anne.

PolkadotsAndMoonbeams · 22/11/2021 20:09

I'm halfway through the third and I'd forgotten how awful he was about her book!

AgedVellum · 24/11/2021 11:17

I generally try to resist forcing 21st century interpretations on situations from an earlier era

I don't think it's forcing a 20thc interpretation to point out that it's not just Dean Priest who sexualises the thirteen-year-old Emily, it's other characters, male and female, and the narrator, who is always insisting on the slender, purple-eyed, 'love-curled', faun-eared appeal of her heroine.

I adore the entire trilogy, which I find darker and odder than the Anne books (LMM much preferred Emily to Anne, and moaned about being 'dragged at the cartwheels of the detestable Anne'), but for me, Emily is a pain.

She's a crashing snob, continually conscious of being from the locally-aristocratic 'New Moon' lineage, completely humourless, and massively melodramatic. You want to tell her to calm down and have a cup of tea. If she had a Tragic Scar, she'd grow up into the same kind of high-octane dog-poisoning lunatic as Teddy's mother. Grin

And yes, Ilse's father is a monster, but I think what bothers me is that the first novel asks us to believe everything is suddenly fine because of the discovery of Ilse's mother's body in the old well, which apparently jolts Dr Burnley into paying more attention to his neglected daughter, as though that's a happy ending -- the idea that it's somehow 'better' that his young wife died, possibly slowly of starvation, down a well, rather than ran away with another man!

I do like the dark, Gothic element, though -- the scene in Emily Climbs where the elderly madman with the birthmarked hand chases her around the locked church, or the genuinely unnerving sequence when she has a moment of second sight in her sleep and finds where a missing child is.

Frogsonglue · 24/11/2021 11:20

You're right MsAmerica that nothing Dean does is criminal, although I think these days it would be considered a serious safeguarding issue to have a 36 year old man befriending and spending so much time alone with a 12 year old.

I totally get what you mean, though, about not imposing today's social norms on a society from over 100 years ago. As a young reader I preferred the Emily books to Anne, as I found her a darker and more complex character, whereas the Anne stories can be a bit saccharine at times. So on rereading I was shocked and a bit disturbed to realise how much toxic and abusive behaviour there is going on - there's a fair bit of psychological cruelty going on within families in these books in a way that I don't think there is in the Anne series. I wonder whether LM Montgomery intended it that way or if these are just norms of the time and that sort of poor rural community.

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Frogsonglue · 24/11/2021 11:24

Agedvellum we cross-posted - totally agree with everything you've written! I think it was the gothy element that appealed to me as an angst-ridden teen Grin.The Anne books are a joy to read as an adult though; I doubt I'll be going back to these ones any time soon.

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Frogsonglue · 24/11/2021 11:31

And YY to the Dr Burnley/Ilse's mother storyline. Her death was a tragedy, and on learning the truth Dr Burnley should have hated himself forever for his destructive ego and how he'd treated his daughter. But instead it's all, "hooray, she drowned in the well after all, I'm going to buy my daughter loads of new clothes to make up for years of neglect and abuse." And everyone is pleased for him Hmm

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AgedVellum · 24/11/2021 12:28

You can imagine going for a drink with Anne and having a nice time. Going for a drink with Emily would probably involve her looking out for covert slights all the time, imagining you were condescending to her, and giving the side-eye to someone across the room she thought had smirked at her.

Ilse is a bit of a psycho I mean, probably not surprisingly but in her first couple of weeks at Shrewsbury, she throws the headmaster's vase at the wall and slaps the face of the landlady of her lodgings.

ThePlantsitter · 24/11/2021 12:38

I loved this book so much as a young teen and although everything you say is right, I feel like it is meant to be like that. Like, if you're able to look at it through the eyes of what you would expect the author to be you can see all sorts of horrific oppression and abuse and that's how people were operating then. That's why Emily never reaches her full potential throughout the story. Maybe LM Montgomery would not have been able to say that because she might not have recognised it as such but I can't help feeling the commentary is there underneath an internalised layer of the mores of the time. It's not a happy ending but possibly a realistic one.

ThePlantsitter · 24/11/2021 12:39

Though to be honest I normally skipped the Dean Priest bits because not only is he creepy but he's a bore.

AgedVellum · 24/11/2021 12:48

@ThePlantsitter

Though to be honest I normally skipped the Dean Priest bits because not only is he creepy but he's a bore.
I always like to imagine him being pursued by 21st-century Egyptians who want to repatriate the necklace he gave Emily that he said was taken from the mummy of a princess.
ThePlantsitter · 24/11/2021 12:51

@AgedVellum he would deserve it!

I have always wanted a gazing ball as a result of reading E. of N.M.

AgedVellum · 24/11/2021 13:30

I'd like purple eyes. And a Murray instep and ankles. No cankles in the Murray clan. Grin

Frogsonglue · 25/11/2021 18:01

Plantsitter that's a really insightful post.

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Doomscrolling · 27/11/2021 10:41

I read it for the first time recently; Anne Shirley was one of my best friends through my teens so I was already a fan of LMM.

Dean Priest really creeped me out.

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