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The Mirror and the Light: extract

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MaJoady · 22/02/2020 09:05

I know lots of people are eagerly waiting for this! There's an extract of the first chapter in the Guardian this morning. Here:

www.theguardian.com/books/2020/feb/22/the-mirror-and-the-light-hilary-mantel-extract?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard

Enjoy! It's good! Smile

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slartibarti · 06/03/2020 13:35

Was so pleased when the book arrived, just what I needed to take my mind off coronavirus worries.

Sypha · 06/03/2020 14:32

250 pages in, it’s fantastic

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slartibarti · 06/03/2020 16:21

Can't wait for the BBC series, have heard it'll be in a year or so to coincide with the paperback edition coming out.
Of course unthinkable that anyone other than Mark Rylance plays Cromwell.

ChainsawBear · 06/03/2020 16:56

I dunno, I never got into the BBC series, and part of that was that Mark Rylance didn't epitomise Cromwell for me. To me it's essential to his character that he's a thinker who looks like a bruiser, who physically frightens people, and Rylance looked too artistic to me. Plus I felt a lot of the nuance of his inner monologue was lost.

Clawdy · 06/03/2020 17:01

I loved Mark Rylance's portrayal, that lovely measured voice and calm face, can't wait to see him as Cromwell again.

MinesaBottle · 06/03/2020 20:41

I loved him in it too, although he didn’t have that thuggishness the real man had (look at his portrait - I can totally imagine him wading into a pub fight, or starting one!) Damian Lewis was excellent as Henry too so I hope he’s back as well.

HappydaysArehere · 06/03/2020 23:14

I bought my copy yesterday from WH Smiths for £12.50 if you bought the Guardian or £15. If you didn’t. However, it also came with a free book - Heresy by SJ Parris. I was well pleased as I rather fancy the free book. Began the former last night and was transported back into time as Hilary Mantel can do so clearly with all its historical detail to enjoy. Certainly it promises a satisfying and long read.

BlancheDuBlah · 07/03/2020 07:28

It's been so good from the off, so very worth the eight years but after tearing through it quite, I'm deliberately slowing down to savour it as know I'll be bereft when finished.

I can't see Cremuel as anyone other than the lovely Mark Rylance now and Yy to Damian Lewis as H .

BlueCookieMonster · 07/03/2020 12:37

Currently listening on audible, haven’t a clue where I’m up to. But loving it!

FuchsiaBay · 07/03/2020 16:31

I dunno, I never got into the BBC series, and part of that was that Mark Rylance didn't epitomise Cromwell for me. To me it's essential to his character that he's a thinker who looks like a bruiser, who physically frightens people, and Rylance looked too artistic to me. Plus I felt a lot of the nuance of his inner monologue was lost.

That was my problem, too, and I adore MR as an actor. He did a brilliant job, but for me he was miscast. As was Ben Miles (who I also admire) in the RSC stage version, which I didn't much care for. Once you take out the astonishing richness of his inner monologue, and the distance and contradiction between what he says, does and thinks, what you're left with a story we all already know.

But I seem to be in a minority in not much caring for TMatL, which I finished last night. Not compared to the previous two novels.

To whichever pp was complaining about the weight of the hardback -- I saw paperbacks in a bookshop yesterday, so they must have been released simultaneously...? Still a hefty tome.

Tulipstulips · 07/03/2020 17:15

To me it's essential to his character that he's a thinker who looks like a bruiser, who physically frightens people, and Rylance looked too artistic to me

Yes, I agree with this. He was very good but he didn’t look right to me. I’d have cast Mark Strong if I’d been in charge.

FuchsiaBay · 07/03/2020 21:47

I don’t think even Mark Strong has the physique — I think you need someone more like a younger Ray Winstone, with a blocky boxer’s body, and the look of someone who might be just about to head-butt you. Someone you’d hesitate before sitting next to on public transport.

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FuchsiaBay · 07/03/2020 22:25

I honestly don’t think you can spoiler TMAtL! I don’t think anyone was expecting a reprieve, or that Mantel would invent a last-minute interview with Henry or anything.

Her memoir Giving Up the Ghost is brilliant on her early life, if anyone doesn’t already know it.

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HollySideEyes · 08/03/2020 08:08

I think Mark Rylance is perfect as Crumb , weren't we all surprised by his depiction in Wolf Hall at first,showing the notoriously thuggish (going by the portrait and what we know of his background) Cromwell as being so unexpectedly sensitive underneath it all.

I was lucky enough to see Ben Miles perform at Stratford, the whole play was amazing but Mark R edges it for me.

Clawdy · 08/03/2020 09:16

FuchsiaBay where did you see paperbacks, I heard it was only published in hardback at the moment ?

FuchsiaBay · 08/03/2020 10:17

That's what I thought, too, @clawdy, but I'm pretty sure I saw paperbacks in a bookshop on Friday, in Ireland. The cover was identical to the hardback, but I think the reason I noticed it was because the 'raw' edges of the card (or stiffened paper, or whatever it is that paperback covers are made from!) stood out on the display, rather than the folded-over dustjacket of the hardbacks.

But you're right, I don't see it on Amazon...?

HollySideEyes · 08/03/2020 11:49

I'd love the paperback too if it's out so it matches my others Blush.

Clawdy · 08/03/2020 11:49

I wonder if it was the free paperback books giving a recap of the first two books? I spotted those a week ago in our bookshop, and the cover is very similar. Wish it was in paperback, it's so heavy to read in bed! Grin

FuchsiaBay · 08/03/2020 12:24

You could be right, @clawdy. I will report back if I’m in the bookshop again soon, I agree, it was a difficult book to get into a comfortable position with because of the weight. It didn’t help that we’re currently in a rented house whose owners (whom we know slightly) clearly don’t read at all, because all lights are dim overhead lights, no reading lights or table lamps near chairs etc. I ended up having to read it by daylight or phone light with the book propped against pillows while I lay on the bed.

Sprigware · 08/03/2020 21:35

Just to say I’m also in Ireland and saw paperbacks in a bookshop window today. Definitely the actual book — giant — not a free catch-up. Same cover as the HB.

Are there no pbs in the UK?

Clawdy · 08/03/2020 22:08

Haven't seen any! Interested to hear from others.

slartibarti · 09/03/2020 10:20

...I loved him in it too, although he didn’t have that thuggishness the real man had (look at his portrait - I can totally imagine him wading into a pub fight, or starting one!) ...

Reminds me of a bit in one of the previous 2 books.
Cromwell, talking about his portrait said "I look like a murderer" and someone replied "Didn't you know?"
I love Mantel's humour, very subtle Smile