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Never read any Harry Potter - just how good is it?

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SuckingEggs · 04/12/2015 22:43

Am thinking of putting the box set on my Christmas list...

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Ahardmanisgoodtofind · 05/12/2015 14:51

I love the Harry potter books and got the full set for my last birthday. There's more about their world than is in the films-which I love. Phillip Pullman is ace too, Anthony Horowitz did a good series but for the life of me i can't remember the name (bit darker main character's called Matt i think) I liked the Percy Jackson series and the follow up Greek god series. I go between SUPER dark adult and then need something easier and lighter inbetween.

Ahardmanisgoodtofind · 05/12/2015 14:53

Anthony Horowitz power of five series.

Curiouserandcuriouser30 · 05/12/2015 15:00

Definitely read the His Dark Materials trilogy, they are great!

As for HP, I read them and really enjoyed them, I found them gripping, especially the later ones. They aren't for everyone though, but I would urge you to give them a go!

caker · 05/12/2015 15:05

I started reading the first HP but couldn't get into it. Pullman however, yes, I stayed up all night reading them! Brilliant writing.

IAmAPaleontologist · 05/12/2015 15:08

Pullman is amazing, definitely. I remember when The Amber Spyglass came out, I read pretty much all night and finished off the last couple of chapters in physics the following morning. I was completely unapologetic about it, I seem to remember telling my teacher that I had to finish it and I would be long Grin.

His fairy tale type books are great too and his Adventures of the New Cut Gang is brilliantly funny. I read it with ds1 for the first time over the summer and he kept telling me off because I'd send him to brush his teeth and he'd come back to find me reading ahead!

I do love Harry though too and I'm enjoying revisiting them with ds1 at the moment.

vestandknickers · 05/12/2015 15:09

Not for adults I would say, but utterly spellbinding for children.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 05/12/2015 15:12

After book 3 they would have benefited from some really ruthless editing, but they are still good stories for curling up with at this time of year.

confusedandemployed · 05/12/2015 15:16

Totally agree with mamapants.

I enjoy HP immensely and I've read them alll several times. I'll be reading threm again as well.

I also loved Pullman's Northern Lights series.

JennyOnAPlate · 05/12/2015 16:48

I love the potter series and have read them all many times. I thought I would hate them because I don't generally like the fantasy genre at all.

Dd1 is nearing the end of the 4th book and I'm so jealous that she's reading them all for the first time!

BatmanLovesBaubles · 05/12/2015 17:34

YY to Anthony Horowitz Power of Five.

I love Harry Potter very much, but it's not for everybody. Give Philosopher's Stone a go. Mind you, the feel of the last books is very different to the feel of the first two. The third book is where I became invested in the series.

hackmum · 05/12/2015 20:55

I very much agree with flightywoman. I thought they rather cleverly combined different genres. They're a bit like good crime fiction - every plot has a driving narrative with a mystery to be solved, and a final, usually surprising, twist.

They also resemble traditional kids' boarding school stories - Malory Towers and the like (but better, in my view).

They have a CS Lewis-style magical world feel too - the influence of Narnia is obvious, but without the tedious religious element.

On top of that, I admire them because she has managed to convincingly create this whole alternative imaginative universe, which is quite rare, I think, even in kids' books. There's lots of cleverness with language - if you know even a bit of Latin or any romance language, you'll enjoy the terminology she comes up with for the various magic spells and characters' names.

The characters are strongly drawn, which I think has to be a prerequisite of any good kids' books.

There's quite a bit of gentle humour, but also a lot of reflection on quite tricky moral issues, such as whether it's OK to use Dementors (essentially evil beings) to guard dangerous, high-security prisoners.

Finally, she rather brilliantly maintains a complicated narrative arc over all seven novels, as well as having a self-contained plot with twists and turns in each novel individually.

I know some people say she's not a brilliant prose stylist, and that's true. They also say her characters lack psychological depth, which is probably also true. But she does the rest so brilliantly I would find it very hard to hold those things against her.

borntobequiet · 05/12/2015 20:57

Awful. Avoid.

timelytess · 05/12/2015 21:11

Rollicking stories, badly written. Wonderfully engaging and worth a read.

SuckingEggs · 05/12/2015 23:55

Gosh, some Marmite views here, thank you. I'm building up a new reading list as I read your posts!

I think I'll get Pullman and try HP but probably one book at a time rather than a box set.

Hackmum, what you say resonates with the kind of stories I love, which is making me very curious. I think that as these books are quite iconic, I feel I owe it to my literary synapses to read at least one or two.

I love being lost in a story. My favourite book of all time is The Secret History and I grew up on Blyton, Lewis and Burnett among others.

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HoundoftheBaskervilles · 06/12/2015 05:39

If you like books and a good old story, WHY THE FUCK are you determined to read children's books?

Really? HP books are TERRIBLY written, it's horrible. If you want to read a series of books that have a mystery and driving narrative with a fantastical background try Dan Simmon's Hyperion cantos. I think it will give you what you're after with added life and depth.

Don't waste your reading years with substandard shit.

hackmum · 06/12/2015 10:41

Obviously people have strong feelings about this, but they're not terribly written. Rowling isn't going to win prizes for her prose style but then neither was Agatha Christie or Enid Blyton. I also happen to love Rowling's Cormoran Strike series for adults - they have the same qualities of fast-paced plot, strong characters and light humour.

I don't think it's possible to "waste your reading years" reading Harry Potter, unless you're the sort of person you only reads one or two books a year. I read about 70 or 80 books a year, and I managed to fit in seven Harry Potter books without too much difficulty.

I don't think, "Oh, I wish I hadn't read Harry Potter because I could have been reading Ulysses or War and Peace" because in fact, I also did read Ulysses and War and Peace. Shock horror, it's possible to enjoy heavyweight fiction and lightweight fiction too without doing yourself any permanent damage.

SuckingEggs · 06/12/2015 10:58

Hound, calm down.

I was asking opinions. Is that ok with you?

A lot of adult books are poorly written shite, tbh.

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hackmum · 06/12/2015 15:10

"A lot of adult books are poorly written shite, tbh."

Well, quite! Give me Harry Potter over Sophie Kinsella any day.

If I had the time I'd go back and read the Anne of Green Gables and Little Women series all over again too.

BertieBotts · 06/12/2015 16:46

I think Harry Potter spoiled me a bit for book length Grin I'm always disappointed when I download a kindle book and it says "Estimated time remaining: 2 hours". Just doesn't seem very much somehow!

thegiddylimit · 06/12/2015 17:01

Agree that His Dark Materials is a far classier book (but it is aimed at older children) but the HP books are great fun children's books and don't take long to read and are fairly rollicking so go ahead and read them. You can probably get a good deal from The Book People.

I don't think there's anything wrong with reading some children's books in among other adult reading. Things like The Secret Garden or Carrie's War or The Little House Books are still rewarding reads for an adult. Hell, I even read some of DD's Holly Webb if I'm bored of an evening, is it really any worse than reading a magazine? If I met an adult who only read children's books I'd secretly wonder about them but in among another 20+ adult books a year? Meh.

SuckingEggs · 06/12/2015 20:46

Oh, I love Anne of Green Gables and The Secret Garden. Wonderful.

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mrsmortis · 09/12/2015 14:55

I love Harry Potter in the same way I love Narnia or The Dark is Rising. They are good yarns (though the middle ones are a bit bloated) but definitely childrens books. It may help that I started reading them before the third one was published so it wasn't a reaction to the hype.

Pullman I struggled with. I can recognise that they are well written but I don't actually like them if that makes sense. I find I can't sympathise with his heroine which makes them very hard going.

I've just reread all the Swallows and Amazon books (started by reading the first to DD1 at bedtime) I love them. I think we should all read a little more escapist children's fiction.

BugritAndTidyup · 10/12/2015 17:49

Definitely worth a read, although it's true the prose-style isn't stunning. But she more than makes up for that with the depth of the world and the way the story is built over time - and how things that at first seem unimportant in earlier books turn out to be very relevant indeed. And that isn't something that you would necessarily realise if you've only read the first few books.

TooExtraImmatureCheddar · 10/12/2015 21:20

I love them. I agree that they need a bit of editing and Harry goes through a whiny teen phase in book 5 particularly, but I have just finished re-reading Half-Blood Prince and am starting Deathly Hallows again.

A few points. I read over 200 books per year. Some of them are children's books and some are classics (although I never did finish War and Peace). I don't think my brain is stagnating nor that I'm reading sub-standard shite. Reading is personal choice. There's no need to be horrible about a series of books that formed a demonstrable phenomenon. You may not like them but millions of people do - I wouldn't be arrogant enough to dismiss that out of hand.

fatowl · 11/12/2015 15:10

I love HP, not great literature (I'm an English teacher), but a good yarn and good characters. They are a light, enjoyable read.

Would echo recommendations for Dark is Rising and Dark Materials as well.

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