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So disappointed!! Outlander, both book & TV, spoilers ahoy..

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Amibambini · 25/06/2015 10:30

Watched the first 8 or 9 episodes of the series and bloody loved it! Time Travel! Plucky heroine! Sam Hueghan in a kilt! I could get lost under that kilt forever.

Anyhoo, so high on dramatic bag pipe fumes I downloaded the book and the first half had me gripped with its trashy sexy goodness. I was reading while pushing the buggy and my poor kid was being bounced into walls. Omg there are 7 more of these bad boys, goodbye all future spare time and accident free buggy trips. But then misgivings started to creep in. 'Hmm, it's quite a bit rapey this.', 'Wow, 18th century fort security is rubbish!', 'Am I supposed to be finding this domestic violence.. cute?', 'See you later witch trial plot!' etc.

Despite these eye rolls I was still fairly into it and cared enough about the characters to want to know what happened to them. And then the whole wolf, cows and ridiculously unsecured back door of a prison caper went down. I mean come on, there was obviously no cctv back in the day but bitch, please.

I'll happily suspend my belief for a time traveling nurse, if the story is good enough I'll go along with pretty much anything. But the spell was well and truly broken when she paused in her implausible prison break to kill a wild wolf with her bare hands. And as I was so near the end, I had to hate-read It through. What. The. Fahhhhh. I don't know about you guys but when I try and solve my violent sex problems with drugs and more violent sex, I tend to end up with more problems, not less.

I don't think I've experienced such a vast, crashing disappointment of a denouement before. Despite the extreme sexiness of Sam Heughan and the excellent production values, I can't even bring myself to finish the TV series. At least my daughter will be safe from being strolled into walls because those books are now nothing more to me than a million pages of Hell No.

Ah that feels better. Totally needed to get that off my chest, I don't know anyone irl that fell down the Outlander rabbit hole. Love to hear anyone else's take.

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ZombiesAreClammyDodgers · 13/09/2018 23:35

Yeah, downloaded book one but couldn't even get past the first few pages. I wonder if Sam H and Cat Balfe secretly talk about how badly written the books are.

AnnaConda2 · 16/05/2020 01:01

@Amibambini
I completely agree. I love the series (especially Claire and Jamie's relationship) but I was really disappointed by the book.

One minute, Jamie's love for Claire is selfless and all encompassing ("I can bear pain myself but I couldna bear yours. That would take more strength than I have.") The next, he's beating Claire with a belt hard enough to cause 'searing pain,' and is so rough during sex that Claire screams, "Stop, please, you're hurting me!" but he continues anyway.

Unless Jamie is a manipulative, abusive bastard or has a split personality, I find these behaviours and sentiments incongruous and I just can't reconcile some of his actions towards his wife with Gabaldon's depiction of him as a 'romantic hero.'

Fans of the book claim that the book Jamie is more 'complex' and more 'realistic' for the time setting than the TV Jamie, but, as a strong modern woman, I seriously doubt that Claire would regard such brutal treatment as acceptable.

I would argue that there have always been people who are unusually progressive for their time and that men who treat their partners kindly do exist in even the most patriarchal societies. As such, I don't see the TV Jamie as particularly anachronistic and frankly, even if he is, I'm happy to suspend disbelief and lust over him Grin.

Christian Grey types don't do it for me, so I'm just going to stick with the TV series.

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