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50 Book Challenge 2014 Part 3

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Southeastdweller · 01/06/2014 10:31

Thread 3 of the 50 book challenge. Here are the previous threads...

The idea is to read 50 books in 2014 (or more!)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/adult_fiction/1951735-50-Book-Challenge-2014

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/adult_fiction/2000991-50-Book-Challenge-2014-Part-2?

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Provencalroseparadox · 19/06/2014 19:50

Ness I must read Triffids.

By the way the new Robert Galbraith is now available on kindle

Nessalina · 19/06/2014 20:24

Ooh I know, but it was £6.99 the last I looked! Shock I'm going to keep an eye on the price, but I definitely want it for my hols, so will probably end up paying the full whack. Really enjoyed the first one Smile

Provencalroseparadox · 19/06/2014 21:09

If you put in wish list it tells you how much it has come down by. Tbh I'll probably end up paying full price as I also want it for my hols. My probable hol reads are currently:

New Robert Galbraith
Her by Harriet Lane
Day of the Triffids
Possibly The Grapes of Wrath
New Michael Lewis book
Possibly Elizabeth is Missing
The Signature of all Things
Days in the History of Silence

Nessalina · 19/06/2014 21:25

Yep, it's in there waiting for the drop...

Along with:
Room £4.19
The Year of the Rat £4.99
Lexicon £4.99

I hate to pay more that £3 for Kindle books!
The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August was in there but I just bought it as when I checked wish list just then it had gone down 68% to 1.69! Win!

WednesdayNext · 19/06/2014 23:04

Nessalina I have a copy of Room you're welcome to if you want to Pm me your address

Nessalina · 20/06/2014 03:41

Ooh thanks Wednesday that's really kind, but don't worry, it'll probably cost you nearly £4.19 in postage!! Grin

I'm trying hard to limit my 'real books' these days anyway... I'm incapable of getting rid of a book (unless I HATE it) because I'm a big re-reader, so our house is full of books Blush DH is always on at me to take some to the charity shop, but I can't bear to part with most of them. This is why Kindle is awesome! I have 129 books so far on there - which has to be most of a book shelf!

Incidentally, books I have charity shopped without qualm:
Labyrinth - Kate Mosse (just utter tosh. So dull.)
Pet Semetary - Stephen King (Depressingly horrifically horrible)
Cujo - Stephen King (Even more depressingly horrifically traumatic!)

I love Stephen King, but only when there's a 'happy ending' of sorts at least. I don't think I'll be reading The Grapes of Wrath!

bibliomania · 20/06/2014 09:56

Nearly finished (68) In Search of Shakespeare, Michael Wood. Competently written and I'm enjoying it. I'm fascinated by the massive psychological upheaval that went on in Shakespeare's youth with the changeover of state religion. To have your hope of salvation snatched away from you....There are a couple of Shakespeare-related events coming up locally, so this is me getting into the mood.

MollyMaDurga · 20/06/2014 12:19
  1. Ender's Game OrsonScott Card
    Yuck. About 75% in a had a look at some reviews to see whether to persevere and came across how he is apparently homophobic anti gay marriage protester. Makes his alien 'buggers' rankle quite a bit I ust say, killing them by taking out 'The Queen'? All the descriptions of the games were boring, the premiss of one gifted boy (not a girl... too many years of evolution stacked against female qualities like empathy, kindness, cooperation..) to save he world poorly executed. Not for me.
    Cured of sci-fi for now.

  2. Death is not the end, Ian Rankin.
    A novella, so very short. But a treat after the previous one, nice!

I have now started in Of Human Bondage by W. Somerset Maugham, hoping to get out of the boy phase soon, enough with the precocious boys already.

On the side I am reading After Tamerlane, non fiction about Empire.

Loved Grapes of Wrath by the way, bleak but brilliant.

CoteDAzur · 20/06/2014 13:48

Molly - What is this about anti-gay marriage etc? I don't remember anything of the sort from that book.

Yes, it talks about "The Queen" of the aliens because they are a hive, and so we talk about their leader and chief as their "queen" just like we say "queen ant" or "queen bee", and you would naturally expect to kill them all by taking out the queen, just like you do with an ant or bee colony - she is actually called "Hive Queen" in the book. Would you have been happier if she were called "The King"? (In that case, I suspect you would be outraged that the female of the species has been robbed of its rightful title Grin)

"one gifted boy (not a girl... too many years of evolution stacked against female qualities like empathy, kindness, cooperation..)"

Have you read the book or just skim-read it because you found it boring & not good enough on the feminist/gay agenda front? It's clear about the importance of qualities like empathy (they specifically checked for his when questioning him re the fight he got into in the beginning), decency, cooperation, etc. (Having said that, someone with 'too much' empathy & kindness would arguably fail as a military leader, and would certainly not carry out the final assault that saved humanity)

I didn't feel that there was any sexism in this book. Candidates (girls as well as boys) are left free to work out their relative functions in their groups, to rise up to leadership as their skills & achievements are recognised. In fact, Ender's sister Valentine was conceived because The Fleet thinks the family's firstborn Peter is too cruel and feels the family genius can flourish better in a female child. However, Valentine goes to the other extreme so the family is encouraged to conceive Ender.

MollyMaDurga · 20/06/2014 14:18

The author is a member of the Church of Latter Day Saints, he is a vociferous opponent of gay marriage: wikipedia page [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Scott_Card#Views_about_homosexuality]]

He doesn't write about gay marriage in the book but the term buggers for the aliens doesn't sit well with me in the light of what he supposedly feels about gay people.

I know it's about the hive and the queen, but again, in this light I do not like it.
As a hive, gimme the Borg any day.

I did read the book, not just skim it and his words against girls as contenders for the battlle school are a paraphrase but not far off. He does talk about evolutionary disadvantages for girls being chosen. There is only 1 girl there, Petra. And she breaks under pressure.

MollyMaDurga · 20/06/2014 14:19

terrible linkfail!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orson_Scott_Card#Views_about_homosexuality

CoteDAzur · 20/06/2014 14:39

"the term buggers for the aliens doesn't sit well with me in the light of what he supposedly feels about gay people"

As I remember, the term 'buggers' has come from 'bugs' - aliens look like our insects. There is no sexual context for this term in the book, neither is there any reference to the author's religion or sexual prejudices. So I don't know what you are criticising here (except the author's private life?).

"I know it's about the hive and the queen, but again, in this light I do not like it."

What light? The aliens are a hive and so their queen is called "Hive Queen", like with ants and bees. What is there to criticise there? I seriously don't see what you are talking about.

"He does talk about evolutionary disadvantages for girls being chosen."

Chosen as military commander.

And do you disagree?

WednesdayNext · 20/06/2014 14:50

No bother Nessalina I have the same problem with real books in my house

CoteDAzur · 20/06/2014 14:51

Nessalina - Please say that we are not holding off discussing Lexicon until its price drops! When you said it's on your to-read list, I thought you were going to read in a week or two Smile

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 20/06/2014 16:29

Don't understand the outrage over, 'Buggers' at all - I also thought it was because they looked bug-like. And I thought Enders' sister was a strong character in her own right too. I know nothing about the author, but I didn't see the things in the book that you're complaining about here, Molly. I just thought it was quite an exciting story about what might happen if children are pretty much bred for battle, and I enjoyed looking at the dynamics of the relationships in it.

Nessalina · 20/06/2014 20:14

Don't worry Cote, I go to Greece for a week on the 30th June (whoop!) so the whole wish list inc. Lexicon will be purchased at that point for by the pool reading! I'm just holding off in case the price drops between now and then! Grin

DuchessofMalfi · 21/06/2014 08:43
  1. The Ocean At The End of the Lane - Neil Gaiman. Didn't like it at all. Almost put me off reading. Ugh. Now I know for sure - I hate fantasy. Never again. Not ever.
Nessalina · 21/06/2014 09:30

Ha! I really enjoyed The Ocean At The End of the Lane, but I can imagine it's not for those that dislike fantasy...

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 21/06/2014 09:34

I haven't read it yet. It looks v lightweight and short though. Wish he'd write another, "American Gods" instead of all the little, lazy looking stuff.

Southeastdweller · 21/06/2014 11:57
  1. Knight Errant, by Robert Stephens with Michael Coveney.

A no-holds-barred autobio from one of the greatest Shakespearean actors of the last century, too short but entertainingly told.

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ChillieJeanie · 21/06/2014 14:10

Book 47 Cockroaches by Jo Nesbo.

The second in the Harry Hole series, although only published in English in the last year or so. Harry is sent to Thailand to investigate the murder of the Norwegian ambassador, who had been found dead by a prostitute in a seedy motel room. It's inevitably a convoluted story, not quite as violent as the later novels in the series, and has the feel of Nesbo still finding his way a bit, but it's a good one.

Provencalroseparadox · 21/06/2014 17:09
  1. I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou. Book group pick in honour of her recent death. I very much enjoyed it, what an incredible life she had. Found a bit of the writing a little confusing but overall a good one.

Going to try Anne of Green Gables now.

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Nessalina · 21/06/2014 19:41

I think Neil Gaiman is doing a lot more kids stuff these days - I'm always surprised by how few books he's actually written! I wasn't a big fan of American Gods (it felt to me like nothing really happened), but I love Neverwhere and Anansi Boys. For anyone that does Audible, the unabridged Anansi Boys read by Lenny Henry is a real treat Smile