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Has anyone here read Spies by Michael Frayn?

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joelalie · 18/04/2006 13:47

or Jonathan Strange and Mr Norell by Susannah Clarke (I think)?

Read them both this year and I think they are two of the best new novels I've read for ages.

Anyone else know them?

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harpsichordcarrier · 18/04/2006 13:50

both actually Smile
I liked Jonathan Strange very much

Pruni · 18/04/2006 13:51

I am listening to the audiobook of JS&MN atm - and loving it (though it is surprisingly creepy in places).
I think I've read spies: is that where he's a journalist?

Miriam2 · 18/04/2006 13:52

Someone lent me Spies and I didn't think I would like it at all but almost read it one sitting! Very underrated IMO. Will check out those others you mention- ta!

Lio · 18/04/2006 13:53

I've read Spies and liked it and it reminded me of The Go Between (LP Hartley?). Actually I have a question about books. Will start a new thread.

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joelalie · 18/04/2006 13:55

Pruni,

no, it's about 2 little boys in the suburbs during WWII who decide to spy on one of their mothers as they think she's a German spy. She isn't needless to say but they uncover or partially uncover lots of adult secrets and unspoken emotions.

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Cristina7 · 18/04/2006 13:57

I read Spies and liked it. I think I was expecting slightly "more" (given his Copenhagen play) but this was just a straightforward good read.

harpsichordcarrier · 18/04/2006 13:57

at the beginning they are sitting in a privet hedge Pruni
the one you are thinking of is called ?Headlong I think. Didn't like that one so much actually
I owrry for the author of Jonathan Strange actually - can't help thinking she may have invested a bit too much in the first novel...

Pruni · 18/04/2006 13:57

Ah ok, sounds good though.

In JS&MN, the dress in faerie-land which was made up of thousands of tiny singing mouths really freaked me out.

Pruni · 18/04/2006 13:59

Nono Headlong is the Brueghel.
I did a search: it's "Towards the End of the Morning" (didn't rate it much).
Did anyone see Copenhagen? Fabulous.

CarolinaMooncup · 18/04/2006 14:00

am about to start Spies (having got bored to tears with Catch 22 by ch.3).

I thought Headlong was great, I really loved it.

The one about the journo is Towards the End of the Morning, which is good but not that good imho. Maybe funnier if you are a journo yourself and know the world he describes.

harpsichordcarrier · 18/04/2006 14:01

oh yes, that's right
really didn't like Headlong. Thought it was like a Tom Sharpe and NOT in a good way
will lend you Spies if you remind me Pruni.

Hazellnut · 18/04/2006 14:02

read spies a while ago and remember loving it...

Pruni · 18/04/2006 14:03

Oooh yes please HC.
Are you thinking of the same Headlong?
I fairly liked it.

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joelalie · 18/04/2006 14:04

"I owrry for the author of Jonathan Strange actually - can't help thinking she may have invested a bit too much in the first novel... "

I know what you mean. For a start it's such a BIG book...you can somehow imagine it's been brewing for years. And where do you go after that....

Pruni - that dress was very freaky. But everyone and everything in Faerie was....and so callous! Somehow I always saw fairies as little sparkly mischevious things or wholesome rustic types like Tom Bombadil Grin not cruel and capricious.

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harpsichordcarrier · 18/04/2006 14:04

yes about a painting
all a bit too farcical for me

Pruni · 18/04/2006 14:09

Just in case...
THere have been a few other moments in listening to it (blimey it's long, about 32 hours!) where I have been on my own and felt really uncomfortable, hairs pricking up kind of thing.

Pruni · 18/04/2006 14:10

Hmm yes HC it is coming back to me now
Did like the desperation of not knowing if it was an original or not - just the sort of thing that would drive me mad
Also cannot remember if it was or not so will reread

cod · 18/04/2006 14:11

mememememememm

I loved spies

cod · 18/04/2006 14:11

in fact FIL and i ( for whom i bought it) thought one of the best thigns we had read for ages
but i like his plays too

acnebride · 18/04/2006 14:15

liked spies a lot, though thought there wasn't a huge amount to it, also [oh bohter can't ermember title] a book of MF's about 2 civil servants who end up creating a [spoiler deleted] in an unused whitehall office. Also left you thinking 'was that it' a little bit at the end, but enjoyed it.

noises off the first time was close to torture it was so funny. couldn't breathe, see etc.

Cristina7 · 18/04/2006 14:17

Pruni - we went to see Copenhagen many years back and we got seats in the jury on the stage. It got v hot and we were in full light (no nose picking etc.)

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joelalie · 18/04/2006 14:18

Wasn't that called "Swimming" or "The Swimming Poo" or something like that Acnebride?

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joelalie · 18/04/2006 14:18

Err....sorry that should have read "The Swimming Pool"...Blush

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acnebride · 18/04/2006 15:00

loving the swimming poo!

i had to look it up - it seems to be [god forgotten it again] A Landing In the Sun or somethign close to that. Not a very memorable title to me.

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joelalie · 18/04/2006 15:36

Yes! That sounds more like it. I'm sure the Swimming Poo is by him too....

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