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Any 19th century sleuths out there?!

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kenobi · 25/10/2011 16:11

Honestly - academics! Just read the lovely (and delightfully short) La Dame Aux Camelias by Alexandre Dumas which is about a youthful love affair. I hadn't finished my train journey so I read the foreword.

The (male) professor who wrote the foreword states that the love interest was based on Marie DuPlessis, a courtesan. Apparently she carried white camelias when in her box at the opera, except for 5 days a month, when she carried red camelias, and according to him, no-one knows why.

Erm... can anyone think of why a courtesan might carry red camelias 5 days a month?! Grin Anyone?!

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BellaDonnaSansMerci · 25/10/2011 16:17

At the risk of being very coarse, she was a courtesan sooo maybe the red ones were to signal her "unavailability" on certain days? Bit too literal perhaps?

duchesse · 25/10/2011 16:24

I'm thinking that kenobi is intimating that (male) professor is being exceedingly dim and/or displaying his lack of knowledge of menstrual cycles.

kenobi · 25/10/2011 16:28

I could be wrong. I shall eat masses of humble pie if someone comes up with another solution. But surely... surely it's got to be her period?

And yes I am being very rude and insinuating all sorts of ivory tower-ishness to the prof in question!

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IndridCold · 25/10/2011 17:34

I'm sure you're right too! It does conjure up the image of an ageing bachelor in an old tweed jacket Grin.

I looked DuPlessis up in my copy of Katie Hickman' Courtesans, but it's only about British women (and a recommended good read BTW).

There is a book about the most famous 19th century Parisian courtesans (including DuPlessis) called Les Grandes Horizontales if you wanted to check further. It's on Amazon for 1p.

BellaDonnaSansMerci · 25/10/2011 18:17

Sorry - did wonder as I'm usually nodding in vigorous agreement with your posts Blush

Perhaps he was like John Ruskin (it was Ruskin who was horrified by actual women, wasn't it?).

Bossybritches22 · 25/10/2011 18:19

Yes it was to demonstrate her availability !

The subject came up on QI last season & as Stephen Fry is such a pedant I'm sure it MUST be right!!

Northernlurker · 25/10/2011 18:23

5 days a month is a dead giveaway isn't it?

Bossybritches22 · 25/10/2011 18:53

Northern....to a women -yes!

kenobi · 27/10/2011 16:17

Ahh, so it has come up before. I felt like writing to this chap but hopefully he's had it pointed out to him by now!

Yes good old Ruskin, horrified by pubic hair. He'd have been right at home in our modern dilapidatory age Grin not

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Bossybritches22 · 27/10/2011 19:37

From QI website!

spendthrift · 02/11/2011 12:21

yes of course it was - don't know where the prof has been hiding but the symbolism was known yonks ago. and I mean yonks - long before I did English in past century

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