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Weight loss chat

A space to talk openly about weight loss journeys and challenges. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Paul McKenna

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realitychick · 02/04/2010 14:59

Has anyone tried this?

Those ten pounds I've needed to lose for so long have become more like 20, or 30 if I wanted to be slim rather than just not overweight. But I am useless at dieting.

Just got his book and wondered if anyone wanted to give it a go with me. I want to lose at least 20lbs.

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realitychick · 19/04/2010 18:27

Hi Nickname, yes please join in. Glad it's working so quickly for you. I know what you mean about feeling evangelical about it. I had a read of some of the other threads and they were all about feeling starving and being good or naughty. I so wanted to add a message but thought it might come across as being smug, or worse, trying to put people off their resolve. Different things work for different people I suppose.

It's brilliant isn't it? Someone who wasn't shy in telling me I needed to lose weight told me today I looked thinner. And some clothes already fit a little bit better. Not supposed to weigh yourself for two weeks, I know but I'm curious.

The funny thing is, because nothing is banned, none of it seems so tempting. I did have a couple of low nights because of bad news, but today things were back on track and I just didn't want to finish that plate of pasta, which was smaller than usual to start with.

Feeling very happy about this plan. Going to listen to the CD again once kids are in bed - my DP is away at the moment, so lots of opportunities to play it unselfconsciously.

How's everyone else doing? has anyone else spotted which of the over eating types they are? Mine is definitely emotional eating. Just discovering that has made it easier. I was mistaking loads of signals for hunger - basic ones like thirst and cold. Responding to the feeling itself instead of piling the food in is a novelty!

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gailforce1 · 19/04/2010 20:54

Hi, I am ready to join in! I have the book, CD and DVD! Have watched the DVD a couple of times and started the book and put the CD on......and went to sleep!! I like the fact that you are encouraged to eat when you are hungry as I feel light headed if I go without food for a long time. I did LighterLife a few years ago and lost weight BUT could hardly function and have never felt so bad in my life. I also put on the weight I lost plus some!
Have lost 2.7st in last year and need to loose another 2.7st and felt that I had reached a plateau and hoping this will help me get going again.
Good luck everyone!

realitychick · 19/04/2010 21:59

Hi Gailforce. Are you named after the boat in Corrie? (Sorry - I just had to ask!)

The CD put me to sleep as well.

A friend did LighterLife and is back to her old weight within the year. It's just too punishing, I think. This way you eat everything but don't over eat. It feels like magic. I've had chocolate and crisps and wine and no guilt at all since I started after easter and yet the weight is coming off. I'm starting to feel ridiculously affectionate towards Paul Mckenna for talking such sense. I'm glad it's made him so rich! Some people get rich on the binge-diet circle. His method is more respectful.

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captaincogsworth · 19/04/2010 22:21

Ooh I am excited - my book and CD are in the good old British postal system somewhere, hopefully arriving sometime in the next couple days. Please can I join you all? I need to lose about a stone. Not a massive amount but if I don't start ASAP I will be in trouble - I am eating junk on a downward spiral - hula hoops straight after breakfast because I feel tired, wine because it's there....... I NEED to do something that works. You are all sounding very positive - I love it!

realitychick · 20/04/2010 09:24

Hi captain. Welcome aboard.

It really is a good system. If you truly want hula hoops for breakfast you can have em. But by following his four main rules of eating, often you find you actually want healthier stuff, because the cravings disappear very quickly.

I have just over a stone to lose too. It was more than that a couple of weeks ago but with the exercise and normal eating it seems to have gone down quite fast so far.

I've lost my book ! It was in the kitchen and it's been tidied away somewhere not obvious, so I can't listen to the CD for now.

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sarah293 · 20/04/2010 17:42

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realitychick · 20/04/2010 18:14

I promised myself I wouldn't get all evangelical about this to other people because different stuff works for different people. But I do know there can be dangers with low carb - very bad for kidneys, gives you halitosis, extreme low carb destroys muscle. No society in the world eats in this way. Every society mixes carb and protein if they can because it's a balanced way to eat.

My instinct (but someone else's might be totally different and right for them!) is that any diet which forces you give up something your body needs and your mind likes is not a long term solution. It can get the weight off but won't keep it off year in year out. So then you're back on the fat/thin/binge/diet cycle of constantly hating your body and thinking you have to tame it. It's not necessary.

The brilliant thing about this non-diet is it wipes out diet mentality: can't have it so I crave it, being good, being naughty. All that stuff that only the few wills-of-iron people succeed at long term. I'm intrigued that my cravings creep in and out again in a second. My kids opened an easter egg after tea tonight. I'd had exactly what I wanted, roast veg and couscous and a glass of wine. For about a second I thought: CHOCOLATE!!! and then it passed and I had an even stronger impulse that went; Nah, no thanks. I'm sure that's because I knew if I truly wanted it and was hungry, I could eat the whole egg on this regime and not have broken any rule.

This is the only method I've come across that teaches us how to be totally unneurotic about food, and for that reason (and cos it's working,) I recommend giving it a go.

Sorry Riven. I'll shut up now.

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BouncingTurtle · 20/04/2010 18:46

I weighed myself on Monday, and I have lost 1lb. However if I am totally obvious, I have been eating when not hungry. I too have a problem with emotional eating.
I am not discouraged, clearly more effort is needed on my part to break those bad habits, such as stopping when I am full and not bolting my food down. I am definitely going to listen to the CD, and I need to read the book through a few more times.
It is very encouraging seeing a few more of you here and doing it!
Riven, don't know if you have read the whole thread, but BIL dis Atkins a number of years ago, lost a whole load of weight, and piled it all back on again - he missed beer very very badly . He has only managed to keep it off with the McKenna diet.

BouncingTurtle · 20/04/2010 18:46

Sorry should call it a diet - as it isn't!

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BouncingTurtle · 21/04/2010 07:55

Because it works - you can lose loads of weight on a low barb diet, the trouble is it is not sustainable long term, because you are depriving yourself of something that you were used to eating every day.

BouncingTurtle · 21/04/2010 07:56

barb=carb, obviously!

realitychick · 21/04/2010 09:02

BT - I don't think that's bad - to have lost just a pound. because you haven't actually been on a diet. Our bodies are adjusting to eating a healthy normal amount - not less than that. So the loss will be slow and permanent, and with luck, there's no sense of deprivation, ever.

I've been doing it, with a few big lapses of emotional scoffing when we got some bad news, for about 3 weeks and have probably lost about 4 lbs. Enough for people to comment. If it carries on like this - roughly 1lb a week until summer I'll have lost just under a stone before a big party I'm going to, and a stone and a half before the bikini comes out. And that's without counting a single calorie or excluding any food. I think that's really good.

Riven - if you want a short term quick boost to start off, then this probably isn't the best way, as it is slow. But it is perfect for stabilising you weight and regulating your appetite long term. If you did low carb to kick start - you could always move on to this to maintain the weight loss.

But the main point of the McKenna is to get people away from diet mentality - obsessive, neurotic attitudes to food, and back to enjoying it and becoming aware of your natural appetite.

It's not foolproof. You do have to work at being very conscious of whether you're truly hungry. And you do have to eat consciously - which, if you're used to cramming in biscuits on the run, is hard to establish as a habit. There is effort involved, and self discipline. Stopping eating when your stomach has had enough, even though your mouth and your mind are going: but it's garlic bread! or whatever, and want more. You have to train yourself. But it is so freeing to lose weight without counting points, syns, saying can't to this and that. I've eaten Mars bars, crisps, had wine, as well as proper meals every day, and have lost enough (not weighed myself yet) in three weeks, that several people have commented on it.

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sarah293 · 21/04/2010 09:41

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NicknameTaken · 21/04/2010 10:30

I'm with realitychick - not feeling deprived is such a big thing. I really liked one of the case studies in the book which quotes a woman who had lost a lot of weight saying her weight-loss was almost beside the point -she was just so happy to feel good about herself.

Every other attempt at losing weight has left me beating myself up mentally and feeling guilty and inadequate. This feels easy and enjoyable.

It just seems like a really sane way to eat and it feels like it could be the start of a permanent change for me. Even if I don't lose a lot of weight (and I'd like to shift 3 or 4 stone), I'd still be prepared to carry on with this new mindfulness about eating. For one thing you enjoy the food more as you learn to concentrate on it and not mindlessly stick it in your gob while watching TV or (my particular vice) being immersed in a book.

BessieBoots · 21/04/2010 10:43

I picked up this book and CD in a charity shop last week. May I join? Have lost a few pounds in the last few weeks due to bf and trying to be sensible, but I know I need to address my relationship with food- Accept I love it and have pleasure from it, but that I only need it when I'm hungry. I've always been a comfort eater, and I just want to eat what I need. Sounds so easy, doesn't it?

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NicknameTaken · 21/04/2010 11:38

That's the joy of the Paul McKenna thing - it's about taking that obsession and unhappiness away.

Again, apologies for evangelism - I swear I'm not getting a cut of the profits! Will be interested to see how you get on, Bessie.

realitychick · 21/04/2010 13:48

Riven - agreed the CD makes you giggle at first. My sis couldn't listen to it, he made her cringe so much. He used to be a radio DJ. Niiiice.

But the advice in it is good. And I found the book too short to reinforce the ideas unless you read it every night. At least you can have the CD on in the background while doing other stuff.

Hi Bessie Boots, join us.

I weighed today. Gone down by 5lb in total in three weeks with not a single feeling of longing or guilt or hinger or deprivation. Very happy.

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NicknameTaken · 21/04/2010 15:51

Congratulations!

realitychick · 21/04/2010 17:03

Thanks, Nickname.

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MadameGazelle · 21/04/2010 19:43

Hi - I'd like to join please, I' ve got about 20lbs to lose and I desperately need to change my attitude to eating - I've been looking at the CDs on ebay - which one is the best to buy - "I can make you thin" or "easy weightloss"? TIA

realitychick · 21/04/2010 23:07

Hi madame G. Haven't seen teh Easy weightloss one so can't advise, butthink everyone on here is using the I Can make You Thin book. When I can find it Mine's disappeared since I tidied the kitchen!

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realitychick · 21/04/2010 23:07

Hi madame G. Haven't seen teh Easy weightloss one so can't advise, butthink everyone on here is using the I Can make You Thin book. When I can find it Mine's disappeared since I tidied the kitchen!

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realitychick · 24/04/2010 11:43

Hi,

How's it going everyone? I'm still liking it but having to be careful, as it gets more familiar, to stay conscious when eating and to be 100% honest about whether it's hunger or craving.

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