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A space to talk openly about weight loss journeys and challenges. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

The 3 week challenge starts tomorrow!

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BecauseImWorthIt · 10/01/2010 17:56

Right. It seems that most of us are going to be low carbing. However, please join us, even if you're following some other kind of plan!

From tomorrow, there are three clear weeks until the end of January, and the aim is to lose half a stone. Some of us may lose more, especially if we have a lot to lose, but half a stone is a good - and safe - amount of weight to lose in three weeks.

If you're low carbing, there are plenty of different plans around that you can follow. The three that I'm most familiar with are Atkins (of course), Charles Clark and India Knight/Neris Thomas. All of these books are definitely worth a read.

If you're thinking of starting off with two weeks of induction, Atkins-style, I thought the following might be useful, just in case you haven't got the book. This is a list of foods that are allowed during induction. (It's from the original Atkins, apparently, and I think things have changed somewhat, but this will give you a good guide for it; you might find it useful to print off and take with you when you're shopping:

"In addition to your proteins which are the focus of this diet you eat NO MORE THAN 20 GRAMS OF CARBOHYDRATE PER DAY. Your diet will consist of mainly pure proteins and pure fats and limited amounts of vegetables.

Eat liberally during Induction:

All fish
All fowl
All shellfish
All meat
All eggs

Mayo, vegetable and olive oils, butter, lard, dripping, poultry skin and meat fat

*Cheese (more recently limited to 100g per day)
Any full-fat, firm, cream, hard, soft or semisoft aged cheeses

*Fresh Double Cream (more recently limited to 3 tbsp a day)

*Nuts (more recently removed from allowable induction foods)
Almond, brazil, macademia, pistachio, pecan, walnuts.

*Count carbs from nuts, cream and cheese (if applicable) into your daily maximum of 20 carbs a day

Vegetables

You can have two/three cups(1.5lbs) per day of the following

sprouts
mushrooms
bok choy
peppers
celery
radishes
lettuce
romaine lettuce
cucumber
artichoke
celery
pumpkin
rhubarb (no more than 8ozs)
asparagus (no more than 8ozs)
chard
sauerkraut
bamboo shoots
collard greens
spring onions (no more than 8ozs)
snow peas (no more than 8ozs)
bean sprouts
spaghetti squash
eggplant
spinach
broccoli
hearts of palm
string or wax beans
broccoli rabe
kale
summer squash
brussels
kohlrabi
tomato (no more than 8ozs)
bean sprouts
leeks
turnips
cabbage
okra
water chestnuts
cauliflower
onion (no more than 8ozs)
zucchini

If a vegetable, such as spinach, tomato or onion cooks down significantly, it must be measured raw so as not to underestimate its carb count.

Salad Garnishes
crumbled crisp bacon
grated cheese
minced hard-boiled egg
sautéed mushrooms
sour cream
mayo
lemon/lime juice

Spices
All spices to taste, but make sure none contain added sugar.

Herbs
basil
garlic
rosemary
cayenne pepper
ginger
sage
cilantro
oregano
tarragon
dill
pepper
thyme

For salad dressings, use mayo or oil and vinegar (but not balsamic vinegar, which contains sugar) or lemon juice and herbs and spices. Prepared salad dressings without added sugar and no more than two carbs per tablespoon serving are also fine.

Artificial Sweeteners
sucralose (marketed as Splenda?)
saccharin
cyclamate and acesulfame-K
aspartame (in moderation)
certain sugar alcohols, such as maltitol, do not affect blood sugar and are acceptable.

Acceptable Beverages
Be sure to drink a minimum of 3 litres of water each day, including:

Filtered water
Mineral water
Spring water
Tap water

Additionally, you can have the following:

Clear broth/bouillon (not all brands; read the label)
Club soda
Coffee or tea
Diet soda
Essence-flavored seltzer (must say "no calories")
Herb tea (without barley or any fruit sugar added)
Lemon juice or lime juice (note that each contains 2.8 grams carb per ounce); limit to two to three tablespoons

Grain beverages (coffee substitutes) are not allowed.
Alcoholic beverages are also not permitted during Induction; those low in carbohydrates are an option, in later phases.

Special Category Foods
To add variety, each day you can also eat 10 to 20 olives, an avocado, sour cream or double cream, as well as two to three tablespoons of lemon juice or lime juice. But be aware that these foods occasionally slow down weight loss in some people, and may need to be avoided in the first two weeks. If you seem to be losing slowly, moderate your intake of these foods.

Convenience Foods
Although it is important that you eat primarily unprocessed foods, some controlled carb food products can come in handy when you are unable to find appropriate food, can?t take time for a meal or need a quick snack. More and more companies are creating healthy food products that can be eaten during the Induction phase of Atkins. Just remember two things:

Not all convenience food products are the same, so check labels and carbohydrate content.While any of these foods can make doing Atkins easier, don?t overdo it. Remember, you must always follow The Rules of Induction.

ENSURE YOU EAT LESS THAN 20 GRAMS OF CARBS A DAY ON FOODS LIKE NUTS, SEEDS, AVOCADOS, SOFT CHEESES, CREAM AND SOUR CREAM, LEMON AND LIME JUICES AND LOW CARB DIET FOODS. CAREFULLY MEASURE YOUR PORTIONS!"

Hope this helps, and good luck to us all!

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BecauseImWorthIt · 12/01/2010 11:55

Pixi - not putting on weight over Christmas is a brilliant achievement! And 4lbs in a month is not that bad, given that the advice is to lose 1-2lbs per week on a sensible weight loss plan.

What you're doing is exactly right - i.e. looking at your portion sizes, planning your food and shopping accordingly and half an hour of exercise.

The only way is down!

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gr8kids · 12/01/2010 12:00

Well done pixi.

piximonkeyingaround · 12/01/2010 12:07

Thank you ladies. I was thinking gp would have a moan that I'm not doing enough, (which I know I'm not but hard to find time with 5dcs, snow everywhere and living in a rural area with no pavements to go out walking) but I'm feeling a bit better now you've reminded me about the 1-2lbs a week.

BecauseImWorthIt · 12/01/2010 12:14

We'll keep you track and positive, pixi!

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gr8kids · 12/01/2010 12:16

wow you are superwoman. to be able to juggle you got going on and still lose weight is just amazing. well done you

WilfSell · 12/01/2010 13:40

Right I am checking in [partly because I want to use this as my food diary or I will forget!]

For breakfast I had [get this...]

two large dessertspoons of creme fraiche, with a dribble of vanilla extract and some chopped brazil nuts. It was lovely . I just couldn't face bacon or eggs or salami or cheese. I'm not sure I'm ever going to manage that kind of stuff everyday for breakfast so will have to be invented. A big vat of protein shake (with dumbbells on the front - arf) has arrived so I'm going to try that for breakfast tomorrow morning with cream and something to flavour it.

I had a cup of hot water with lemon, 1 Earl Grey with lemon and 1 decaff coffee with cream and cinnamon so far. Have also got some rooibos tea to try. No caffeinated coffee today or yesterday as yet but I'm gonna keep to one or two cups of proper tea a day to ease of the caffeine detox slowly.

No snacks mid morning - already I feel less generally hungry (I don't know if this is the food or the chromium or just dogged determination. There's loads of temptation around though as I can't make three active boys not have the stuff they're used to...

For lunch just had half an avocado chopped up with some Jarlsberg on top of a pile of rocket, with dressing and a few olives. Oh and one cherry tomato chopped small.

Dunno about dinner yet but it will probably be chicken as we have playdates over tonight and it needs to be something we can all eat.

Haven't weighed myself today but period started so feel bloated and fat anyhow. Will give it a couple of days...

WilfSell · 12/01/2010 13:40

invented?

inventive

BecauseImWorthIt · 12/01/2010 13:43

Sounds good, Wilf. The food that is, not the mistake!

And period can result in weight gain of several pounds, so not worth weighing. Drink extra water to help with the bloating.

If you can't face savoury for breakfast, and if you can get hold of any, stewed rhubarb (sweetened with granular Splenda) with Total full fat yoghurt and vanilla extract is totally droolworthy.

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HinnyPet · 12/01/2010 13:57

Chromium WilfSell? What's that for?

Ooh BIWI I am loving the idea of the rhubarb...is total full fat yoghurt the same as yeo valley full fat greek?

I had a cup of green tea yesterday and it was truly foul. Back to the decaff coffee and water.

Does anybody know if lactose free milk would be acceptable, its the sugar in normal milk that Atkins deemed bad, so would lactose free be any good?

Also, single cream in coffee ok or does it have to be double? Could you have soya milk instead?

BecauseImWorthIt · 12/01/2010 14:00

Don't know how Total compares with Yeo, re carb count or as a product. But I love the texture of Total as it is really thick.

Re milk - I have never given up my coffee with milk. I hate cream in coffee! Maybe just cut down on the number of cups you have during the day and have ordinary milk?

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HinnyPet · 12/01/2010 14:05

Hi BIWI, thanks for replying so quickly!!
Is the Total one the fat free one advertised over there? -->

BecauseImWorthIt · 12/01/2010 14:07

Not the fat free one - you want the one that's mainly blue, which is the full fat one.

Remember - fat is your friend on low carb!

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BecauseImWorthIt · 12/01/2010 14:07

But also, remember that yoghurt is quite carby - you don't get much for your 100g by way of quantity, and if you're doing induction then you will have to be very, very careful!

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HinnyPet · 12/01/2010 14:17

BIWI I am eating more protein than anything so a bit of yoghurt sounds lush

...can I ask a TMI type question? How often are you low carbing lot having a poo!!!

BecauseImWorthIt · 12/01/2010 14:19

Every day.

If you're not, drink more water and make sure you're eating more veg/salad.

There are lots of other things that people resort to, but thankfully I've never had to go there!

This site might give you some ideas

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HinnyPet · 12/01/2010 14:25

I'm eating lots of veg and salad too. I had a look on the pig2twig website too, they recommend psyllium husks if you are a bit egg bound (though I haven't had an egg since Sat)

BecauseImWorthIt · 12/01/2010 14:32

I have just had a lovely lunch - thought I'd share!

This will make a generous portion for one:

Chicken in a mushroom and cream sauce

1 chicken breast, thinly sliced
1/3 medium onion, thinly sliced
1 clove garlic, chopped
3-4 mushrooms, thinly sliced
handful basil leaves, chopped
juice of 1/3 lemon
salt/black pepper
dried oregano
chilli flakes
double cream
olive oil

Heat olive oil in a frying pan and add onion and garlic, fry gently till onions are starting to soften; season with salt, pepper, oregano and chilli flakes (as much/little as you like)

Add chicken pieces and stir till browned, then add mushrooms and basil. Stir together, then turn down heat and cook for around 5 minutes.

Add cream - a generous dollop - stir, and simmer till all is cooked through. Shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes.

I served it with left over cauliflower mash, which was lovely as it soaked up the creamy juices.

You could serve it with pasta or rice for other members of the household who aren't low carbing.

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piximonkeyingaround · 13/01/2010 00:52

YouLukaAmazing more detailed recipe please you have me champing at the bit. It'd go well with the low fat natural yoghurt lurking in my fridge.

I went with tomato soup for lunch, with one slice of bread. Ds3 helped me to eat it.

Then I had pasta bake for dinner. I usually eat at least the same amount as dh, plus seconds, occasionally 3rds . Today I had a much reduced size portion plus lots of salad in lemon juice. And I avoided extra helpings and refused cake my mum brought home.

I did have a little weep though, not because I denied myself the cake, but because I wonder will I ever just be able to eat normally? Why do I spend almost every minute of the day thinking about food? Surely it's not normal. And why does my family keep offering me food that will eventually kill me if I don't lose some of this weight? And why do I find it so hard to just say no?

Sorry for wining, I don't often reveal just how upset the whole weight issue makes me.

On the plus side I've submitted my essay, so all being well with the school run tomorrow I'll have a little time to do some proper exercise.

piximonkeyingaround · 13/01/2010 00:55

supersal I know you're low carbing so not good, but oh how I wish I craved apples I prob wouldn't be in this mess if I did.

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