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GP refusing iron and B12 testing

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Lemonthyme · 16/03/2026 09:53

I'm so fed up with my GP. Looking back through my test results, My iron and B12 levels were on the low end of the normal range 2 years ago. I'm struggling with energy, weight loss and feeling cold. Recently had some blood tests and the GP didn't bother to repeat them.

He's saying because they were in spec it's fine despite there being loads of evidence out there that people who exercise a lot need more than scraping the bottom of the range.

I have a GP appointment soon and he's refusing to repeat these tests before I see him. After my last appointment he referred me to the county "weight loss service" who aren't accepting patients anyway but helpfully sent me advice on diet and exercise (I exercise 5-7 days a week already and already eat healthily and drink no alcohol).

To say I'm p---ed off with this idiot is understating it. We have poor provision where we live for GPs so I can't even move practice (I'm outside the catchment of other practices).

I'm perimenopausal but utterly f-ked off by being gaslit by male GPs who think "eating less and moving more" is a magic wand for all weight loss despite the fact that most people find that advice really hard to follow but I'm one of the unusual cases where I AM ACTUALLY DOING IT ALREADY!

Since my last consultation, no thanks to him, I read up on B12, ferritin and how that can elevate HbA1c results (mine were 5.8% despite my lifestyle) but in any case am trying 1 x 24 hour fast per week which so far DOES seem to be helping, albeit I'm pretty knackered. Possibly glycogen depletion but if my HbA1c is high genuinely, what is the alternative? I just want some f-king advice that isn't bloody patronising. Is that too much to ask?!

The point in asking for the tests is because you can often have absorption issues so supplementation may not work.

Why does it feel that as a middle aged woman in the UK you're on your own when it comes to health? Drives me potty.

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Lemonthyme · 18/03/2026 07:50

careerbreak · 17/03/2026 22:40

The alternative to ‘eat less, move more’ is the weight loss drugs. Worth considering?

I have a BMI of 26 and a bit. So not obese. Therefore the benefit / effort of the weight loss drugs are not necessarily in my favour. I'd also rather try everything else first.

I saw a graph on linkedin about the biggest purchasers of GLP1s in the UK. It was middle aged women. I'm not surprised.

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Lemonthyme · 18/03/2026 07:52

2Rebecca · 17/03/2026 23:21

You can buy iron tablets and oral B12 and see if you feel better

I will go down that route if I can't get tested but possibly pay for a private test first. If that is the cause of the high HbA1c as well, it's good to know that this change will be helping it.

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PeonyPatch · 18/03/2026 07:56

If I were you, I’d pay for a private test at this stage.

ShredderQueen · 18/03/2026 08:08

catipuss · 17/03/2026 20:26

You self diagnosing and deciding your own treatment may not be right. Go to a private doctor if you don't believe your NHS doctor? Don't think this is anything to do with women being treated differently.

You are so wrong. Middle aged women...actually women in general are treated appalling by GPs, the NHS, NICE with regards to health. Everything is put down to our age, hormones or anxiety.

I have just come out of hospital following and each time I spoke to a Dr or Consultant (or, tbh, a nurse) there was always a huge difference in how seriously symptoms were listened to if my DH was present.

Donotfitin · 18/03/2026 08:13

I had a similar experience (I have chronic low iron)…. But demonstrated with research papers that low iron can give false positives for pre diabetes and then they changed their tune

Lemonthyme · 18/03/2026 08:13

Carelessebba · 17/03/2026 21:48

Sorry, but I think you have convinced yourself of a health issue based on internet and possibly AI.
if you are struggling to lose weight, iron and b12 might not be to blame.
Test it. Buy supplements that melt in mouth and are absorbed by oral mucosa. If your issues go away, you were right, if not, at least you know it is not that.

I suppose I prefer to have the data. I have potentially four overlapping health conditions which are hard to decipher and sometimes improvements on changing behaviours or actions are difficult to pin down to what the cause was and whether the action has improved anything or if it would have got better because of something else. E.g. I'm taking a nasal spray for another reason at the moment. My health conditions are perimenopause, mental health, long covid and potentially nutritional.

My frustration in not getting this (cheap for the NHS) data point is it would be a cheaper test than actually having the consultation with the GP but then will tell me and him whether both are low and also what kind of supplementation I need. I already (sometimes, not honestly consistently) take iron and B12 and have a high iron and B12 diet (I'm probably one of the few people who actually eat offal fairly regularly for example) but both can be poorly absorbed from diet. My mother has to have B12 injections for them to work. If that's not all offered then I'll go for the most likely to be absorbed and possibly retest myself to see if it's worked.

You also have to understand the wider medical history with my GP. Where I'd already given him a run down of my diet and exercise and he then referred me, without informing me, to a county wide weight loss programme, which is full anyway and they sent me advice including doing 150 minutes of exercise a week and the "eatwell guide" which is just so utterly basic and already what I'm doing it's painful in how laughable it is and how little I've been listened to.

Add onto this when I originally presented with perimenopause symptoms at the age of 45 they did a single blood test for oestrogen, didn't even ask which part of my cycle I was in, ignored my symptoms and said I wasn't perimenopausal. I had to raise a complaint quoting NICE guidelines for them to admit they were wrong and their GPs had very little training on menopause and they'd change that.

Since then I've pushed for a referral to someone who does know about menopause. To get the referral took >1 year and I've been on the waiting list for 9 months.

In the meantime, I'm now on testosterone gel as well and mirena but I've now had three occasions where they've messed around with my HRT prescriptions. Sometimes refusing them, sometimes issuing less than previously. The last one was issuing two pumps of oestrogel when I have 4 gel pumps per day (I normally get 5 containers) so that will last me very little time. I asked why and they said they now needed a blood pressure test before they could issue a prescription for me for oestrogel even though they'd already issued 2 packs. I did that. a week later. Still not issued. Contact them. Claim they'd issued it 2 weeks earlier. According to my pharmacy they only issued it on my final chase so lied to me.

So as you can see, there is a lot of history where I really feel let down by my GP. There is zero trust I have in them but due to provision where I live I have no option to move (I've raised this with local and national government. It's not just an issue I have but they have appalling CQC scores and very bad on line reviews.)

All I was asking was, prior to this appointment or even instead of it, isn't it worth checking my B12 and iron? Wouldn't that make more sense than potentially wasting the GP time?

As with everything else I'm doing around my health and wellbeing, I'm pretty much ticking everything you should do. I don't drink. I exercise about 4-6 hours a week including weights and cardio. I eat very healthily with minimal if any added sugar and the same for simple carbs. I eat more than 30 plants a week. I mostly cook from scratch. I eat a reasonable amount of lean protein including liver, red meat, white meat and oily fish as well as vegetarian sources like lentils. I eat high fibre and fermented foods (I make my own sauerkraut and eat kefir etc) I even have cut back on nitrites etc.

So while you're right I may have pinned some thoughts about my health on this, it's not only about weight that strange HbA1c result is bugging me and makes little sense alongside other blood results but also might make sense with the amount I exercise.

And I might be wrong. But I also have low trust in my GP in their knowledge on perimenopause and nutrition and I think if you read the above you can understand why I hold that view.

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Lemonthyme · 18/03/2026 08:15

Donotfitin · 18/03/2026 08:13

I had a similar experience (I have chronic low iron)…. But demonstrated with research papers that low iron can give false positives for pre diabetes and then they changed their tune

That's exactly my point. Because I run a lot, it's likely my needs will be higher but also if you have anaemia, red blood cells will have a longer life span. That results in inaccurate HbA1c results.

I'm tempted as others have said just to pay now. I'm getting really fed up with this. My appointment is Monday though so I might leave it till then.

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Lemonthyme · 18/03/2026 08:21

Oh I should have said.

The only reason iron and B12 testing was ever done in the first place (even though the test was old) was because they were messing me around with my HRT, still trying to claim my symptoms (like brain fog) were not perimenopause.

It's like they're prepared to do the testing when I'm asking for something else but not when I'm asking whether that test needs to be repeated.

Problem is at my age, late 40s now, there are so many overlapping conditions that it can make it hard for GPs to unpick them all. I do get that. But when you're trying to unpick it without all the data and not necessarily with all the training (as is a fact for GPs around menopause and nutrition) it's super weird.

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GoldenCupsatHarvestTime · 18/03/2026 08:28

The GP has rules they have to follow. They have to have a set clinical reason for doing things and this is out of their control. I know it’s annoying but they get in trouble otherwise and put their job at risk.

You can get iron and B12 tested for privately if you choose to. For about £50 online.

bumblingbovine49 · 18/03/2026 08:34

All i will say is I ( early 60s overweight femake) have been to the GP three times in the last few months about how tired and low I am with constant muscle aches. I eventually had private blood tests which flagged some things as low , vit D, iron and vit B. I went back to the GP who said the readings weren't low enough for NHS intervention. No advice re supplements either, which is why I had gone as didn't want to randomly take supplements without advice on amounts etc. Just told to go away execise more ( which makes my tirednedd and muscle ache symptoms much worse) and lose weight

My DH, late 50s, overweight, went once with similar symptoms ( munis muscle aches) and was given blood tests, vit d supplements and referred for nhs counselling for his mood . After one visit.

Same GP

Now tell me middle aged women don't get treated poorly.

Thecows · 18/03/2026 08:38

2Rebecca · 17/03/2026 23:21

You can buy iron tablets and oral B12 and see if you feel better

Takes forever for iron tablets to work. The OP sounds very informed, ridiculous that her GP wont just carry out a simple iron and B12 test. Mine do it all the time.

Oneearringlost · 18/03/2026 08:41

Lemonthyme · 18/03/2026 07:52

I will go down that route if I can't get tested but possibly pay for a private test first. If that is the cause of the high HbA1c as well, it's good to know that this change will be helping it.

If you are clinically B12 deficient, oral supplements will not adequately correct that. It needs to be injected.
OP, you really do deserve a full blood test...
HB, iron, B12, ferritin, thyroid, renal and liver function, glucose and/or HBA1c, lipid profile at the very least, this is the basic requirement for TATT ( Tired all the time)
Afterwards, more tests, possibly, based on your results and symptoms. You do, indeed, need a GP who will listen!
Having said that, there is a huge amount of misinformation on the Internet re: people assuming suboptimal levels of various bloods in individuals, is significant, and extrapolating that each and every symptom needs treatment. And wanting to treat an otherwise reasonably normal result.
SOME people, ie Coeliacs, need a different treatment from normal therapeutic ranges of iron, for example, but TATT, whilst requiring investigation, is a relatively normal part of the ebb and flow of life.
But, taking a robust history, applying medical knowledge properly, listening to the patient and having a level of curiosity that shows you are interested in patients' histories is often an overlooked skill, these days, ( and a symptom of a time-poor, maybe inefficiently run GP surgery. All the best.

Lemonthyme · 18/03/2026 09:37

GoldenCupsatHarvestTime · 18/03/2026 08:28

The GP has rules they have to follow. They have to have a set clinical reason for doing things and this is out of their control. I know it’s annoying but they get in trouble otherwise and put their job at risk.

You can get iron and B12 tested for privately if you choose to. For about £50 online.

Not sure if you have any insights into that as to why this wouldn't be a clinical reason to test given the symptoms I've shared. They tested other things which I didn't ask for and don't make sense to me. Including cholesterol (both LDL and HDL were in very good or excellent ranges), my triglycerides were slightly raised but it wasn't a fasting blood test and I think their targets were fasting. As a result they sent me advice by text on lowering cholesterol. Er, my cholesterol, which made no sense to test for anyway with my symptoms was excellent... 🙄

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Lemonthyme · 18/03/2026 09:44

Oneearringlost · 18/03/2026 08:41

If you are clinically B12 deficient, oral supplements will not adequately correct that. It needs to be injected.
OP, you really do deserve a full blood test...
HB, iron, B12, ferritin, thyroid, renal and liver function, glucose and/or HBA1c, lipid profile at the very least, this is the basic requirement for TATT ( Tired all the time)
Afterwards, more tests, possibly, based on your results and symptoms. You do, indeed, need a GP who will listen!
Having said that, there is a huge amount of misinformation on the Internet re: people assuming suboptimal levels of various bloods in individuals, is significant, and extrapolating that each and every symptom needs treatment. And wanting to treat an otherwise reasonably normal result.
SOME people, ie Coeliacs, need a different treatment from normal therapeutic ranges of iron, for example, but TATT, whilst requiring investigation, is a relatively normal part of the ebb and flow of life.
But, taking a robust history, applying medical knowledge properly, listening to the patient and having a level of curiosity that shows you are interested in patients' histories is often an overlooked skill, these days, ( and a symptom of a time-poor, maybe inefficiently run GP surgery. All the best.

All true and it might just be a fact of life and age. But I'm trying to do all I can to age well. Which is what we're told to do by the NHS. But then when you try to do it, you face facile advice aimed at sedentary averages not for fit people who are doing everything and still finding issues.

It's almost like there is this huge mental block with primary care. I.e.:

Your average person who comes in and is complaining of tiredness etc.

"Lose weight and exercise."

Probably would work if followed by the majority of people. However, the majority of people do not follow this advice and most GPs stick their heads in the sand sharing the same materials which have been used for decades expecting a different result (but hey, at least they can blame the patients when nothing changes.)

Rare person who comes in who actually has followed the advice on diet and fitness.

"Er.... eat less-er and move more-er? Maybe? Oh crap you got me here."

I'm trying to not become a burden to myself and others and maximise my healthy years. But it feels like I'm on my own with this just at an age when support would be really helpful.

Wouldn't it be great if there was some more holistic support out there for women my age? Which encompassed all of the challenges you face in late 40s early 50s? And helped with mental health, HRT if wanted, weight, exercise? I know that would cost but a lot of women my age leave the workforce as their symptoms are too bad. Would it be great if someone actually gave a crap enough for that to happen? Would surely save money long term too.

Here's a stat for you:

3.5M Women Consider Quitting Jobs Over Menopause | Simplyhealth

3.5M Women Consider Quitting Jobs Over Menopause | Simplyhealth

3.5 million UK working women say menopause or menstrual-health symptoms made them consider quitting - Simplyhealth highlights the workplace risk.

https://www.simplyhealth.co.uk/news-and-articles/menopause-and-menstrual-symptoms-make-women-consider-quitting-jobs

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Oneearringlost · 18/03/2026 09:56

Lemonthyme · 18/03/2026 09:44

All true and it might just be a fact of life and age. But I'm trying to do all I can to age well. Which is what we're told to do by the NHS. But then when you try to do it, you face facile advice aimed at sedentary averages not for fit people who are doing everything and still finding issues.

It's almost like there is this huge mental block with primary care. I.e.:

Your average person who comes in and is complaining of tiredness etc.

"Lose weight and exercise."

Probably would work if followed by the majority of people. However, the majority of people do not follow this advice and most GPs stick their heads in the sand sharing the same materials which have been used for decades expecting a different result (but hey, at least they can blame the patients when nothing changes.)

Rare person who comes in who actually has followed the advice on diet and fitness.

"Er.... eat less-er and move more-er? Maybe? Oh crap you got me here."

I'm trying to not become a burden to myself and others and maximise my healthy years. But it feels like I'm on my own with this just at an age when support would be really helpful.

Wouldn't it be great if there was some more holistic support out there for women my age? Which encompassed all of the challenges you face in late 40s early 50s? And helped with mental health, HRT if wanted, weight, exercise? I know that would cost but a lot of women my age leave the workforce as their symptoms are too bad. Would it be great if someone actually gave a crap enough for that to happen? Would surely save money long term too.

Here's a stat for you:

3.5M Women Consider Quitting Jobs Over Menopause | Simplyhealth

I agree with you.

Lemonthyme · 23/03/2026 09:53

Finally got to see the GP today.

He suggested B12 and iron tests. In fact he said it was a "no brainer". Even though the contact from the surgery had said they'd consulted with him in refusing previously. FFS. Anyway at least it's now being done.

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INeedAnotherName · 23/03/2026 10:44

Is that the same GP who said no?

Or maybe he wanted to see you face to face first before deciding. Idk, but at least you are finally getting tested. Is he doing your folate and vit d too?

Lemonthyme · 23/03/2026 11:28

INeedAnotherName · 23/03/2026 10:44

Is that the same GP who said no?

Or maybe he wanted to see you face to face first before deciding. Idk, but at least you are finally getting tested. Is he doing your folate and vit d too?

Allegedly. The people who man their communication line claimed they'd asked him. It was obvious they hadn't. He just looked at the results I'd had 2 years ago with symptoms and said it was a no brainer to test.

No just iron and B12. I didn't like to push my luck. I think D is better absorbed from supplements anyway (which I'm already taking for vit D) it's more iron and B12 which I think often isn't absorbed well through diet and supplements which may need an injection to boost. I've managed to get in for the blood test tomorrow which is good. At least by the end of the week I'll know and I'm going to supplement with it all if I am not low enough to need the injections.

I've read that the mouth spray for B12 is more effectively absorbed so while I've been taking tablets, I'll move to that after tomorrow's test. Using that as a baseline.

It's all so confusing though. You'd think your GP would be the one to advise what kind of supplementation to do and when etc but they seem to just leave you to look yourself. While also being frustrated if you do a bit of "Google Dr".

Oh and this is before all of the hoo-ha about my HRT which TWICE now they've refused to prescribe or prescribed in reduced quantities but because I needed a blood test or needed a blood pressure result. 🙄Both times they didn't bother to ask me for either until I raised the request for a repeat prescription. One time they just prescribed less without bothering to talk to me first. I found out when I picked up the prescription.

They're just appalling at communication but what really pisses me off is that the way they do it is just so inefficient. It's wasting their time and mine. Repeatedly. Again all I was suggesting doing the B12 and Iron testing for was because I'd been given a GP appointment and it made sense to me to have the results by that appointment. Nope. Instead, we will now be having the blood tests and if they're low, which they probably will be, another GP appointment.

What a waste of time.

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INeedAnotherName · 23/03/2026 11:41

The reason I asked about folate testing is because it is intertwined with your B12, too much can hide a B12 deficiency for instance. Too little and it can cause horrendous fatigue all by itself. I've had low folate twice when B12 was good. Just something to be aware of.

Lemonthyme · 23/03/2026 11:54

INeedAnotherName · 23/03/2026 11:41

The reason I asked about folate testing is because it is intertwined with your B12, too much can hide a B12 deficiency for instance. Too little and it can cause horrendous fatigue all by itself. I've had low folate twice when B12 was good. Just something to be aware of.

Oh god... something else. I do eat a lot of green vegetables so I'm hoping not.

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FictionalCharacter · 23/03/2026 12:33

bumblingbovine49 · 18/03/2026 08:34

All i will say is I ( early 60s overweight femake) have been to the GP three times in the last few months about how tired and low I am with constant muscle aches. I eventually had private blood tests which flagged some things as low , vit D, iron and vit B. I went back to the GP who said the readings weren't low enough for NHS intervention. No advice re supplements either, which is why I had gone as didn't want to randomly take supplements without advice on amounts etc. Just told to go away execise more ( which makes my tirednedd and muscle ache symptoms much worse) and lose weight

My DH, late 50s, overweight, went once with similar symptoms ( munis muscle aches) and was given blood tests, vit d supplements and referred for nhs counselling for his mood . After one visit.

Same GP

Now tell me middle aged women don't get treated poorly.

I have the same experience. DH gets referrals and treatment. I get the little smile, the head tilt and "it's probably nothing to worry about, come back in two weeks if there's no improvement". Time after time.
Even some doctors are speaking up about this inequality now. Though I suspect hell will freeze over before the NHS does something about it.

Lemonthyme · 23/03/2026 12:47

FictionalCharacter · 23/03/2026 12:33

I have the same experience. DH gets referrals and treatment. I get the little smile, the head tilt and "it's probably nothing to worry about, come back in two weeks if there's no improvement". Time after time.
Even some doctors are speaking up about this inequality now. Though I suspect hell will freeze over before the NHS does something about it.

Problem is "doing something about it" is likely to cost money at the outset.

I do think though that a similar approach as for oral contraceptives or midwifery could be used as I suggested earlier up. Perimenopause / menopause must be a HUGE driver of GP appointments in terms of number. Especially as Gen X are less likely to be fobbed off, let's face it. What if there was a nurse led clinic where the nurse was very well trained up on menopause? Where the whole body impact of this stage of life was considered?

Imagine if someone was having a, say, 6 monthly check up with you of a decent length of time where they talked (but didn't push) HRT, mental health, weight, exercise, work etc etc. At the moment huge numbers of women leave the workforce at my age and never go back. If women could be kept well and healthy including things like insulin resistance, nutrition, B12, iron etc at this age, I bet it would pay back in spades.

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PeonyPatch · 23/03/2026 13:53

I read an article recently about how a woman was misdiagnosed with perimenopause when it was actually low iron and possibly b12 as well I think Women all over the UK (and world) are getting fobbed off when it comes to their health and their care and I’m absolutely sick of it. Someone else has come out today about how it needs to be taken more seriously.

links to articles below:

Lemonthyme · 23/03/2026 14:51

PeonyPatch · 23/03/2026 13:53

I read an article recently about how a woman was misdiagnosed with perimenopause when it was actually low iron and possibly b12 as well I think Women all over the UK (and world) are getting fobbed off when it comes to their health and their care and I’m absolutely sick of it. Someone else has come out today about how it needs to be taken more seriously.

links to articles below:

Edited

The huge irony (pun intended) is that when I was pushing to check if I was in perimenopause, that's when they would do B12 and iron tests when they weren't taking the perimenopause seriously.

It's like the B12 and iron tests weren't a problem, it was the fact I was asking for them.

My GP today was asking what was going on with my HRT prescription as he could see the back and forth about it and I said exactly what I thought that whether it was intentionally acting as a gatekeeper or not, communication has been very poor and here are the examples (i.e. refusing to prescribe without a blood test but not asking me for a blood test till I needed the prescription, then refusing to prescribe the normal quantity but not bothering to tell me because I needed a blood pressure test then not telling me till I chased and then losing the result I set back to them etc etc). I even at one point used the word "bullshit" because I actually caught them out in a lie.

I know though that I get really frustrated with GPs and part of the reason why is how poor they've been on just about every condition that impacts me. I have PTSD after being a victim of a crime. I am in perimenopause and trust me they are useless if it comes to anything nutrition, diet or health related (including sports injuries). Couldn't fault the long covid care when I was with that team but I could not believe how much they had to advocate for me with my GP. It was actually them who originally suggested I was perimenopausal and them who pushed back when my GP refused to do more than a single blood test without even bothering to ask what stage of the cycle I was in.

Oh and my GP has "no idea" who referred me to the weight loss service but swears it wasn't him. I showed him the text. Just after I'd seen him as well.

Just makes you feel gaslit really. Primary care in the UK is in no way serving the interests of middle aged women and it's costing the country money and women themselves their wellbeing.

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Lemonthyme · 23/03/2026 14:54

The people who have the most prescriptions for GLP1s not from the NHS is women 45-55.

Which says these things to me.

There are metabolism changes at this age not covered in the blanket NHS advice.
NHS advice isn't helping.
Other causes aren't being checked.
Ruling everything else out, women are either not being heard by GPs or choosing to go elsewhere. Or both.

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