Weight loss for messed up metabolisms?

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After a bit of experimenting, I put on weight if I go over 1050, stay same on about 950-1050, lose if go below that.
Anyone else had their body screwed up by long covid or something else piling on the weight? Body is screwed up enough from covid infections, so need to tackle the post infection weight gain.

Tips for someone who now has a fair amount to lose, can't exercise and very limited energy to cook, bedbound some days and ltd freezer space? I've already cut out alcohol, biscuits, cheese, chocolate etc. I was hoping for something sustainable and realistic as have a fair amount to lose now.

Oh, and consultant at hospital on an unrelated matter casually commented on my weight and asked how if I stopped eating chips every night or tried to stick to 2,000 calories a day, it might help me. Do medical professionals start treating you differently if you're fat? I want to minimise getting any more sick.

There's no study that shows any more benefit eating a low carb Vs high carb diet in regards to weight loss and even the lowering hb1ac and blood lipid levels.

Also the insulin model of obesity has been debunked over and over again.

Basically all the health benefits touted by a guru or quack can be achieved in the exact opposite way once calories are equated in a diet Vs diet study.

People get really heightened and upset over any mention of 'low carb' in a way that they dont get heightened and upset over mention of 'low fat'

Its weird. No one says anyone is 'restricting or cutting' out food groups when one talks of going 'low fat'.

(Im not a fan of low fat but I know it works for some people)

A starter for 10

1. speak to gp and see what tests/referrals might be needed. Take a copy of your food diary and emphasise that yo7 have been counting every dash of milk in drinks etc
2. Fasting. Start by closing your eating window slowly till you can drop a meal and eventually move to one meal a day. This way you will at least be full after your one decent meal.
3. Consider some longer fasts, up to 72 hours is doable.

There are many many ways to lose weight. Low-fat, low carb, calorie counting, fasting, most will work as long as you are consistent.

The problem here is that you have been quite ill. Personally, I think, whatever you do should be under care or with the advice of a doctor. Before I started, I went to see an endocrinologist and that was very helpful.

Unless I'm being thick I don't think calories are equated in any of those studies? Cherry picking studies to fit your agenda is peak low carb fanatic behaviour.

Yes, I picked one article! The very definition of cherry picking

Because you had said:

There's no study that shows any more benefit eating a low carb Vs high carb diet in regards to weight loss and even the lowering hb1ac and blood lipid levels.

Whereas if you read the article, which is comparing 23 studies - and all of these studies are randomized controlled trials, and they all appear in respected, peer-reviewed journals - that isn't true.

I wasn't looking to make a point about low calorie eating.

Oh, and by the way, calling someone a fanatic really isn't a good thing to do.

Hi, I put in weight if I eat more than 1400 cal a day....

I have a garmin watch which measures my base metabolic rate (it's an estimate) and if I don't run I use fuck all calories on a normal day...

If I run 20-30 km per week I can manage to eat about 2000 cal per day and maintain my weight.

It's really crap! Partly my age (49) but I think I have metabolic disease as I've been overweight for most of my life.

I'm now BMI 23 but it's a fight to stay at this level

Interestingly the groups eating the lower calories were the groups losing the lowest amount of weight.

But you are a fanatic.

When calories are equated the type of diet that induces weight loss does not matter. The health markers all improve at roughly the same rate. A RCT without equating calories is pointless and proves nothing! It's the reason why most studies on nutrition are pointless and even if you tell the participants to stick to a set amount of calories the data shows people do a very ugly job of sticking to it because they don't know how to do it.

Diet adherence is the main issue and I don't think one particular way of eating is best for everyone anyway. If low carb works for you then great I'm glad about that. I actually think it's pretty honourable you're trying to help people but inflating the health benefits is wrong in my opinion.

It's the same as fasting, vegan and carnivore everybody stuck in their camp and can't agree that all these methods will bring about the same outcome when calories are equated.

@Vegetus you have completely ignored any refences to most white carbs being junky modern rubbish and the reasons why people avoid them. It’s hard to work out if you are really advocating people to lose weight eating cheap white bread and pasta as a staple source of nutrition in their diet?

@MCOut the point about fasting isn’t just that it is a way to lose weight, it also resets your metabolism.

Fasting is just eating less calories without counting them

I'm not advocating for anything. All I'm saying is people can lose weight eating "junky modern rubbish" and see the same health benefits. It's the fat loss in and of itself that brings the health benefits not the lack of simple carbohydrates.

Same with vegans who cut out animal products and see an improvement in health markers.

Same with carnivores who cut out all grains, veg and fruit and see an improvement in health markers.

Same with fasting, same with paleo, same with slimming world, same with every diet on earth that has ever caused weight loss.

Like I said above if low carb works for you and it's easy to adhere with then that is fantastic and more.power to you. But equally if someone tries low carb and fails miserably they can get all the same health benefits they could have got low carbing by controlling their calorie intake in the exact opposite way if a high carb low fat diet is one they can stick with long term.

If I had to nail my colours to any mast it would be a high protein diet roughly 1g to 1.6g of protein per pound of lean body weight with the other 2 macros split as the individual sees fit spread between 3-5 meals. That leaves enough room for fun stuff and enough protein that the majority of people would be adequately satiated.

It really isn’t, there is plenty of research out there if you want to look into it. There are lots of benefits especially once you get past about 18 hours and resetting metabolism is one of them.

Gosh, you've been so ill, OP. The last thing I'd be doing in your situation is worrying about weight loss. If you're hungry, you need to eat. Your body is telling you to eat and rest, so do that. I would be looking into what you can do to heal your body and regain energy - that might mean making changes to the kinds of foods you eat but please for now just focus on your overall health and getting as much support from your GP and health professionals as possible.

Studies on this, haven’t always been able to replicate the results, there’s often limited follow-up, not enough participants and it’s not been looked at extensively in women. Some conditions make it inappropriate also.

I’m not necessarily saying this is not true but it’s not yet established fact, in comparison to the impact of eating high protein to preserve muscle for example. Regardless, anything she chooses to do, should get sign off from her doctor.

I’ve looked, I tried it - terrible migraines and indigestion from excess stomach acid. My metabolism is not a fan of fasting, or keto etc.

I just eat less white rubbishy carbs and an otherwise normal diet, with plenty of protein.

I don’t need to eat crisps or cheap white bread, I don’t eat large bowls of pasta or copious amounts of oily potatoes all of which is pretty standard in a U.K. diet. A meal deal from the supermarket is predominantly entirely carbs. All of our popular traditional foods are entirely rubbish carbs, we have forgotten entirely how to eat for our modern day lifestyles.

If you are getting up every day and eating refined cereals, then having a supermarket meal deal for lunch, then a lasagne/roast dinner/spag bol (with garlic bread) or frozen/takeaway pizza for dinner you might be able to come in under your calorie limit, maybe, but it’s highly unlikely. Not only do I work with people who eat this every day my entire family do as well, it’s the diet of our nation now. There is a thread in AIBU which everyone is just listing all these meals every day. Just go to a supermarket and see what’s being sold especially on low price orders. Carbs carbs carbs. It’s cheap

Have a pasta dish once in a while, or a small one. Don’t eat 3 heavy refined carb based meals a day. You will likely lose weight. And you aren’t going to suffer any side effects from it.

There is certainly low carb fanatism on MN and I would say it has become increasingly worse over the years. From weight loss it has now moved to fight medical science and followers are told to ignore their GP's concern about sky high cholesterol because they don't know the "truth" about cholesterol.

It is useless to argue with them as you would get the same results as arguing with a Trump lover.

Brilliant.

Not your words?

Keep going!

One point to make here - if these articles don't - is just how much money is invested in persuading us all to take statins .

Rings any bells?

As I was saying, like talking to a Trump lover.

Well on that front you couldn't be further from the truth. But keep going. This is hilarious 😆