BigMoFos w/c 8 February

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New thread.

Hopefully with added kicks up the backside ...

I missed the crucial "I reckon" in that post Colditz! Thought you had weighed your chips and knew they weighed a pound! Was about to be really impressed at your dedication!!!

I weigh everything else, to be fair. I nearly did weigh thechips then decided I would actually rather not know.

Well I was thinking

pan fried scallops on a bed of watercress drizzled with lemon infused olive oil

lamb chops on a bed of mediterranean puy lentils

sponge cake with vanilla cream and raspberry coulis

very, very un-Weightwatchers

well done on the jeans colditz - it's the best feeling in the world isn't it

I've just had food, but that menu makes me drool, TigerFeet. Sounds very yummy.

I am Marilyn Monroe in my head.

I don't "feel" fat, and don't see why I should, if that makes sense. My brain still works the same whether I'm fat or thin, whether I'm a nice person is not dictated by my size; I don't think about fatness. I just ... am.

Until I see myself in a mirror. And it can be quite a shock to be trying on clothes, thinking you might look quite smart in them ... and then catch sight of a doughy tummy down around knee level!

Hiya. How's everyone doing?

I lost 8 pounds this week!![proud]

I have designed an excel spreadsheet that I type what I've eaten, and what the calories are - I've done a front sheet with a handy guide of average cals in all manner of foods, organised by type bakery, fruit & veg, meat, etc...for reference! then done all these formula thingies to add up cals that day and automatically take them from my daily allowance (currently 1500) then add up my weekly total.

If you get that terrible explanation!

And I wondered if anyone else thought it might be useful, because I could email it to you.

I find keeping track this way is really helping me. It's also such a good way of seeing at a glance how my week has been. AND it's great if you go over one day, to make it up over the week. BUT. I am very obsessive and stuff like this is slap bang in the middle of my 'comfort zone' so don't know how helpful normal people would find it!

But I'd love to share it with anyone who thinks they could try it. It's not flash, but it works.

anyway, it's mud24 at hotmail dot co dot uk

Wow, hecate - that's fantastic. Well done!

Your spreadsheet sounds like a good idea; I don't have excel otherwise I'd have a go with it.

How are you? Don't bump into you much these days (probably just as well; we'd make an awful thud )

I'm fine thanks. Bit poorly though, after I chucked the kids at the schools this morning I went back to bed and slept all day.

Also, my grandma is dying - she went to the brink before Christmas but rallied, but she's going again now, so I'm a bit bleugh.

And other stuff, mostly to do with my mother.

So how are you and yours?

Blimey hecate - 8 pounds is stunning. Well done you. Sorry to hear about your grandma.

Sorry to hear about your grandma, hecate. And that you're not well.

As for us ... we keep plodding on ... as you do ...

Blimey Hecate that's fantastic very well done . The spreadsheet sounds great, could you email it to me tangerinecath [at] hotmail [dot] co [dot] uk - although I suspect that I'll use it for two days and then forget to update it . I'm so very sorry about your Grandma.

Hi Guys!

Sorry I've been absent (sp? )with out leave but I've hit the February slump
I thought I was prepared this year and I'd be ok but unfortuanetly not!!!!

The rush, bustle and panic of the January deadline is over and I've gone into a complete lethargy. I just can't seem to get into gear with anything and as for food....well I've turned into a hoover!!!

We're taking dd to eurodisney at half term so I think I'll try and recharge the batteries and aim to get back on the wagon afterwards.

I LOVE the sound of that spreadsheet Hecate but I just know I'll start obsessing about it if I use it! I'm trying to avoid anything too much like that because I get over obsessed with ticking boxes and don't necessarily eat properly; then when, inevitably, I forget to fill it in for a couple of days I feel like its the end of the world and I eat the fridge (again!). I don't seem able to use it as a tool to monitor my eating and to teach me better control!!!! I guess my mum is right, I'm just a greedy pig!

Hope you're all ok, I am lurking and I'll try and drag myself back into the land of the living and chat a bit!

Ohhhhh, I mean't to tell you all.....

I was very interested in your chats about first periods! I seem to be approaching them fast with dd even though she's only 10! But I'm sure it won't be long as we've had to purchase the first bra - size 28AAA! - and she informed us recently that her 'bits' were getting furry . Poor DH wasn't sure he wanted to know!!!!

Bless her and her furry bits

Dd's only 6 but has started to get a few hairs already, so I think we may be heading for early periods with her too. She's always had quite a lot of fine hair all over her body but she's starting to get some thicker, coarser ones. But as she's blonde (and so are the hairs) they're not too noticeable - she certainly hasn't mentioned them yet.

Hi LMS Good to see you I'm not surprised you get a slump in February, January really is a hectic month for you isn't it? Glad you're posting, even if it's just to tell us you're lurking

I can't remember how old I was when I got my first bra but I wasn't at primary school. There was only one girl at primary school with one and the boys were so horrible to her, poor thing she was really embarrased all the time. I suppose these days more girls are maturing earlier though (or am I wrong?, I dunno).

Peer pressure has a lot to do with it in some cases, I think - and wanting to grow up fast. I saw some bras in M&S the other day in size 26A - they're certainly not needed for support at that size!

They were very pretty though, very girlie with lots of pink lace and ribbon, which made me think that they were intended to appeal to younger girls - and once one talks their mother into getting one then they all want one.

I was about 11 when I had my first one, and really in need of one - 34C from memory. I can still see it now ... nothing like the ones in the shops now! M&S have underwired bras that look like Wonderbras for size 28A ... talk about making them grow up fast.

My sister wears very pretty bras (think she's a 32B or thereabouts) as part of her outfits. SHe has vest tops with teeny tiny spaghetti straps with the bra straps showing as well. She looks good, it's not overtly sexual as the bras are spotty or flowery or whatever, not lacy and OTT or particularly skimpy. She's 16 and a size 10.

16 is fine. It's those same garments being aimed at much younger children that I find somewhat distasteful.

Dd wants one of the ones we saw in M&S because she wants to be grown up and they're pink and ribbony and girlie ... and actually, the 26A would probably fit her. I don't know, I'm probably just being a grumpy old woman but just seems that they're being aimed at children who are barely out of infant school.

I don't know which I'm more jealous of, Tiger ... the fact she's 16, or the fact she's size 10 ...!

I am definitely jealous of both

She has terrible acne though [vicious ]

I think it is a shame that young girls want to wear bras. I agree that they shouldn't be aimed at children as young as your dd. I wonder how much of wanting a bra is because they want to be grown up and how much of it is because the bras are girlie and frilly and lovely? I rather suspect that if dd saw a pink lacy bra she would want one simply because it was pink

In my day () vests were ribbony and bras were white and functional.

In my day, both were white and functional. Actually DD complained the other day because I only ever buy her plain white knickers, because, I think, that's what I used to have, so I think it's the thing to do. OTOH I have no experience of boys' underwear (no really, I don't, stop sniggering), so DS has loads of different colours, with Bob the Builder and Spiderman all over them. It's really not underwear equality, is it?

oh god, first bra... mum wouldnt llet me get one for years, could have done with on at 8 but she made me wait till was 11 and first one was 34c or something!

oh im well and truly buggered, got access to scales this w/e and was so much more aaaargh and im walking several miles a day i feel bleugh yuk.

The first bra was a definate disagreement area! DD had been nagging for months and I refused for a long time on the basis that I couldn't get bras small enough for her! But she is definately 'blossoming' and by the look of things has inherited the family tendency to be well endowed! So I decided to get her some......I'm embarrassed to say that the proliferation of pretty (but practical) sets were a big deciding factor as I'm a shopoholic as well as a foodoholic and it seems sooooooo much easier to justify spending money if its for dd!!!!

We have bought pretty sets (plain white with little daisys on or pink and white stripes!)but not overly lacy/silky/ribbon bedecked! But she also still wears her vests and crop tops!

She is at an all girl school so I think its more of a 'keeping up' with the bigger girls rather than a show off to the boys thing! There are a couple of bigger (as in taller and broader) girls in her class who probably already wear them too, so peer pressure will have played a part!

I know....I'm a terrible, chavvy mummmy and I should be shot at dawn

No you're not LMS - I can completely understand it - I reckon I'll be the same. It's so tempting to buy DD clothes, especially when they look so much better on her than my clothes do on me.

Not sure I really remember mine - I think it was quite polyester-y, and seamless, and plain white. But there was a lot less choice then, plus I lived in a v small town, so even less choice than in bigger towns. For some reason, the bra just didn't register. Strange, the things we remember, and the things we don't.

Nothing of the kind, LMS!