What's a good detox?

[lulupop]

Can anyone recommend a good detox plan? Am currently BF and have been craving meat at every meal, as well as copious calorie-laden snacks in between. As a result I am feeling rather lardy and sluggish. I realise it's probably not a good idea to do a detox while BF but am planning on doing one when I stop in a month or so. Can anyone offer the pros and cons of various plans? I don't think I'll be able to stick to anything for more than 2 weeks, so need some flexibility.

On a related subject, does anyone know how you find out if you have a candida infection? I have had thrush now for months and no amount of canesten can shift it. Never ever got thrush before I became a mother, and now I have it all the time. I've heard of people doing "yeast free" diets to beat long term candida infections but don't really know much about it

lulupop you need Beety she is the queen of detox!

I've done Detox Yourself by JAne Shrivner before. HArd work and to get the most out of it you need to do it for a month, but the results (weight loss, dramatically improved energy, glowing skin, fewer cravings for crap food) are absolutely fab. Once you've done the full thing once you can do a shortened version to regain these benefits at any time.

However, the first few weeks are really hard work and fairly exhausting, especially if you have beuilt up addictions to caffeine (as I had). Not sure I'd recommend it when you are trying to deal with breastfeeding and new baby.

WRT candida, not sure how you can get tested. I went to a naturopath who asked me tonnes of questions and based on my answers diagnosed candida. I think you can access a similar questionnaire to the one she used online which you can use to self-diagnose. I was on a fairly drastic diet (no sugar or sugar forming things ,e.g. fruit, most carbs etc) and taking supplements. It did seem to work but was awfully hard to stick to. Avoiding too much refined carbs seems to work fairly well for me now.

Good luck.

Hi lulupop. You could try the national candida society website - www.candida-society.org.uk/ (sorry can't do links) that lists symptoms etc

oh good, glad this thread here, as keep getting books out of library by Carol Vodermann but don't actually do it as takes a lot of effort...are these detox meals easy to prepare and does it involve a lot of fiddling with unusual ingredients....woman I knew said she smelt horrible when doing this don't know if it's true though!

none its all crap and made up nonsens

""So, does detoxing fulfil its promise? ?No, it?s rubbish,? says Professor Tom Sanders, of the department of nutrition at Kings College London.

?There are so many contradictions in the detox theory that it is laughable. For starters, the idea that some foods are poisonous and others are not is misleading and factually incorrect.?

Even organic vegetables ?are loaded with naturally occurring toxins?, he says, but the body is adept at breaking them down and eliminating them. Broccoli and cabbage, onions and other vegetables are high in such toxins, while meat and fish are relatively low. Brown rice contains phytic acid that inhibits the absorption of some vitamins and minerals, and legumes are poisonous unless properly cooked. The list goes on.

?The biggest irony,? Sanders says, ?is that fasting in the way that many detox diets recommend actually slows down the rate at which our bodies can eliminate poisons. And we need some protein such as meat or fish for the body?s natural detox organ, the liver, to work at its best.?

the rest of the article is online:
www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,7-1015082,00.html "

so does that mean that detox is a waste of time...cos as motherperculiar said she felt great!! surely that's good? then do you have to keep up this life style to feel like this everyday?

Even if you're breast feeding you could still cut out sugar and refined carbohydrates while eating a varied diet Lulupop. You know, wholemeal instead of white and fruit or rice cakes/oatcakes instead of cakes and biscuits, so long as you're not pushing yourself and don't feel that you've let yourself down if you do eat something sugary.

Although you may not want to be taking advice from me - I'm on my 3rd week of no sugar and I'm practically homicidal from lack of chocolate.

Practically Bran isnt that homicidal?

Don't be pedantic with me Glitterfairy, my sense of humour went with the last of the chocolate , see the Paula Radcliffe thread for how I've turned into po-faced bore.

(On second thoughts lulupop - perhaps you shouldn't give up sugar .)

Bran I could never see you as a po faced bore! Now I know why you have a problem with authority figures you are too scarey in rl when sugar deprived (and probably when not as well).

someone i know did carol vordeman-she said the receipes were good and thats what made it bearable -there shopping lists and receipes must make it easier-its no dairy no meat or fish etc-i will do it one day............[[

its called 28 day detox i think
the good news is theres no maths involved!!!

Gosh, thanks for all the msgs everyone. I do agree that perhaps the whole detox thing is a little overrated as a health plan, but you have to assume that cutting lots of things out for a short time is going to make you feel clearer and help shift some weight I guess.

I will have a look at this Jane Scrivner book.

Beetroot, how strict is it? Do you feel ill at all while doing it? How long did you stick to it for, and do you think it;s worth the effort?

How much weight did you lose if you don't mind me asking Beetroot? Did you cut out bread too?

to resurrect this thread instead of doing a new one ...

so what did you decide lulupops? I have got DS2 12 months on 16 fl oz of formula during the day but I give him a nice long BF to go to sleep with, so I know he isn't relying on me for all of his milky goodness.

Do you think it would be safe for me to do a detox now, as I know I have to cut the calories not BF is winding down.

I don't think I could give up all meat and chocolate and wine privileges and go on living with my family (the effect would not be very sociable) so can anyone point me in the direction of a non-hardcore detox?

anyone? Before I go and eat my third helping of sweet and sour pork (deep fried)

beetroot's the detox queen, try cating her if she doesn't see this post.

OK thanks champs!