Slimming world fail

[Beachcountrysidetown]

Slimming world has left me fat, tired, unfit and addicted to sugar.
Their whole concept is rubbish (for me) the fact that a chocolate bar has less syns than an avacardo or handful of nuts is mad and has left me in a state where if I don’t have sugar I get a headache. Two healthy extras being those hi fi bars is also mad - they are full of sugar and no nutritional benefits except a bit of fibre.
I have become frightened of normal foods and never know what to eat as in obsessed with counting a fictional number of points is supposed “bad” food.
The weigh in is crazy - everyone has starved them self all day to then binge on quavers and hi fi bars after their weigh in. Not being able to eat freshly prepared sausages from the butcher as the syns are unknown but able to eat processed crap sausages with the SW branding....
I never exercised as it really isn’t a thing with SW. Yes there’s mentions of body magic but that’s it - getting steps in for body magic if you want to but I was constantly told it’s not needed unless you want to. Thanks to SW I am in the worst shape of my life and I have a good 12 month fight to get my fitness, diet and weight back on track in a healthy way.
Rant. Over.

I totally agree with you. It encourages eating junk food and cravings. It's an absolute moneyspinner with all the SW gadgets, special foods, and constant demands for money through the meetings with raffles and so on. It's not much more than a cult IMHO.

That’s the the thing - slimming worlds own brand of processed foods are free - lasagna - soup - curry sauce... all free... all processed and crap.
Members are being led to believe that these things are good for you as they are branded goods from slimming world

It’s quite interesting how people just surrender themselves to these diet plans and abandon common sense. I’ve been there, too. You subscribe to a strange regime of if SW says this then I must do it, and usual eating habits and knowledge of nutrition falls away.

With any diet plan, you have to make it work for you, use common sense and apply it Tom your personal life situation. If you know sugar is a weakness, avoid it. Slimming World can’t possibly be a one size fits all, no diet can because we are all different, different physical factors, psychological factors, life patterns.

I’ve done all sorts of diet plans and fall foul of the “SW says muller lights are free so I can eat 5” but I’m in a place where I can readjust that thinking, apply ideas I’ve learned from diet plans (SW made me very adventurous with recipes and cooking and combining ingredients etc! We often eat SW recipes now even though I don’t follow it) and make it work for me.

Thing is there’s a difference in calories, whether they’re the same or not. The nutrients you get from an avocado trumps the nutrients from a chocolate bar.
Ultimately the best lifestyle to lead is completely plant based, no unhealthy fats or processed food there at all. Unlimited rice and pasta, unlimited fruit and veg. Just without meat and eggs and dairy. You’ll sustainably lose weight and if you do it right you’re not missing out on anything.
I do eat meat and eggs etc, but get a lot of my carbs from fruit so I stay full.

I suppose Beach you just have to decide if you want to do Slimming World by eating purely muller lights, hi fi bars and ready meals.

Or by eating mostly fresh, unprocessed, low fat foods.

If you are the kind of person who won't eat vegetables and just wants to eat your body weight in pasta and muller lights, then I imagine any diet is going to be a failure until you sort out your food issues.

I have never eaten a muller light, mugshot, hi fi bar or ready meal. I've lost almost 2 stone on SW.
Today I am eating:
Poached eggs on wholemeal toast for breakfast
Vegetable and bean soup for lunch
Fruit for snacks
SW chilli con carne and rice for dinner with a glass or two of wine

I eat as much as I like. I cook from scratch. I haven't gained weight or got bloated or panicked about homemade food.

You don't have to eat lots of junk food or buy SW products - it's up to you.

Which is great for you and if it works for you then that’s wonderful! My point is - they wouldn’t sell these foods and brand them as free and healthy if they wanted everyone to eat in a healthy way.

Bottom line is they're a business, who makes money out of ppl losing weight. They won't want it to be too quick, they're in it for their benefit, not yours, ultimately.

That’s the the thing - slimming worlds own brand of processed foods are free - lasagna - soup - curry sauce... all free... all processed and crap.
Members are being led to believe that these things are good for you as they are branded goods from slimming world

Surely not? I mean, we all KNOW processed food is crap? Why would anyone suddenly assume because it's SW it isn't still processed food. It's the same as eating a non SW lasagne. You know it's processed shite, but is convenient. SW offers the same level of convenience, but again, it's optional. I cook my own lasagne and would never dream of buying a ready meal, why would I suddenly start eating them because I'm doing SW? It is all about choices. They are simply catering to every corner of their market, no different to Tesco or ASDA.

But no one made you eat those foods, did they? You get told you should mostly eat speed foods, did you understand that bit?
I do think you need to take some responsibility for your choices - just because they say you can eat limited amounts of something as part of an overall diet doesn't mean you have to. And it sounds like you were ignoring all the vegetables/fruit/pulses/lean meat stuff and just hearing 'I'm allowed sugar'.

Op, your arguments are all over the place.

You started by saying it made you fat, tired etc, when people pointed out you have many options on the diet and it's not a system where you have to eat processed food and hifi bars, you chose what to eat and an use syns on a variety of things, you changed your argument to it not being healthy, but again people are pointing out uou don't need to eat those things, simply if you wish to you can.

You clearly wished to and did. This really does need to be something uou take personal responsibility for. No one told you you should only eat processed food and sugary crap. I very much doubt anyone told you this was the way to do it and the healthy way. You elected to look at the choices available and eat the shit.

If you're unable to take personal responsibility for your choices you really will struggle to lose weight or maintain a healthy lifestyle, because it will always be someone else's fault and not yours.

SlimmingWorld hasn't failed your attitude to food is failing you.

I love SlimmingWorld as I think it completely encourages healthy un processed food.

What every choices your are given in SlimmingWorld ie healthy extras it's up to you to make a choice about what you eat!

I do eat chocolate or biscuits on sw but I make the choice between that or a glass of wine and often choose neither because I feel so much better not eating crap.

It's no different to choosing between a Diet Coke or water. Both syn free but obvious water is better, but Diet Coke is a better choice that full sugar coke.

Also if all your meals are 1/3 healthy veg how can you be feeling worse.

From an entirely research point of view SW doesn't work long term. No diet does. There is not one single "slimmer of the year" that has maintained their weight loss 5 years later. Less than 2% of people are able to maintain any diet long term, and this is usually through heavy exercise routines.

The average from getting to target is about 2 years.

Dieting of any kind also changes the way your body releases hormones associated with food, fullness and eating. And quite often leads to weight gain or weight loss resistance.

So it's not just SW that doesn't work. It's all diets.

Slimming World and WeightWatchers, for that matter, are money making organisations. No one I know who has been on these diets has ever kept the weight off. They lose, put back on, lose, put back on and it goes on. Neither of these companies are succeeding for the majority of their clients to help them alter their way of eating permenantly, but then why would they, a slim client won't need to pay the fees?

I am on Slimming World. It has made me think about what is going on my meals, cook more meals from scratch and eat far healthier. Yes, you are allowed naughty things under your syns, but I take that to be the odd treat. Certainly not choosing the unhealthiest options from the a and b group and using my syns on high sugar treats. Whether we are on a diet or not we need to make informed choices of what we are shoving in our mouths.

Tufted - what research did you get those figures from? Usually the figure quoted is 95%, and even that is probably a myth
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I've been doing SW since Jan, and have lost 1st 4.5lbs, 3.5lbs to my target weight, which I set myself, there is no ideal weight on the SW plan, you set it yourself, what you think you'll be happy/comfortable with.

For what it's worth, I don't eat or buy processed food I've never eaten a SW meal, SW soup or used any of their ready made sauces. I cook every meal from scratch, use my slow cooker a lot, make 'free' soups and freeze, eat loads of fruit, veg, eggs, and plain yoghurt. I don't eat muller lights, I prefer Danone fat free yoghurts. I do like pasta, potatoes rice etc, but not in enormous portions.I do have the occasional hi fi bar. I'm not someone who craves chocolate or sweet things, so tend to use my syns on more savoury stuff like cheese and crackers. I'm not sure what's unhealthy about my diet. I certainly feel better than I did.

My leader is lovely, she's doesn't spout on about muller lights, she talks about fitting the plan into your life more, about forward thinking, planning meals for the week etc. No pushing hi fi bars, they're at the back of the room if you want them. She's pretty 'real' actually.

No body shaming goes on, your weight is kept private. Not announced to the room. So not sure why people are saying that.

I get that it doesn't work for everyone, and some of you think it's crap, but I think you get out of life what you put in. If your not willing to work at healthy eating/dieting/whatever plan you choose to follow, it's not going to have any effect. There's no magic pill you can take, it comes down to calories in are less than calories used.

SW is a cult now is it? ... everyone on it has been brainwashed to eat processed food have they? pah ha ha ha!! Never heard anything more ridiculous! 🤣🤣🤣

It might as well be a cult sometimes. It's all very us and them. People centre their world around it.

It is cult like. All the clapping when people lose weight. And the armies of people selling stuff on the long table. And the poxy inedible recipes to con people. Albran Ferrero Rocher was the in thing when I went. I can't think of anything more disgusting.

And my leader once was twice as fat as me wobbling about on spindly heels. spouting nutritional nonsense. (It wasn't Margery Dawes but she might as well have been) At least WW asks their leaders to be a sensible weight.

Research. 24-26. I'll try and find the rest.

Well any diet that says that a can of dark fruit strongbow cider is less syn full than an avacardo can’t be promoting a healthy lifestyle. Of course it’s about choice - but it makes making bad choices so easy. I’m pleased that people are having success with slimming world! That’s fantastic for them however it isn’t the same story for so so so many people.

Slimming World and WeightWatchers, for that matter, are money making organisations. No one I know who has been on these diets has ever kept the weight off. They lose, put back on, lose, put back on and it goes on.

And every other diet or weight loss plan going.

It's not SW or WW who are to blame for this. They don't do anything when you get to target to cause your weight to increase. You (generic) do. If you stick to eating healthy you will lose and eventually maintain your loss.

If you sit back and make excuses, blame SW and act like you are all hard done by rather than choose a healthy meal, then yeah, you won't lose weight.

Well any diet that says that a can of dark fruit strongbow cider is less syn full than an avacardo can’t be promoting a healthy lifestyle. Of course it’s about choice - but it makes making bad choices so easy

But it's not suggesting you drink cider all day long? It's not saying you must drink cider not eat fruit. It's saying you can choose a cider if you want to.

It's just saying a can of cider has less calories than an avocado, but more than say, 10 olives.
Whether you choose to use your syns on cider, avocado, olives or something else though is entirely within your control.