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Is it possible to drink full fat coke and still lose weight?!

76 replies

fizzypopaddict · 20/04/2017 20:48

This basically ^^

I'm aiming to lose 10st in a year. Psychological issues with food, don't like much, I eat too much chocolate but I can give that up and limit intake.

Is it possible to lose weight and with 1 can a Coke a day that's full fat? I'd be able to stick to that but realistically I couldn't give it up completely (I drink too much to admit too Blush)

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GotToGetMyFingerOut · 22/04/2017 09:29

*obviously that was meant to say not op.

QuiteLikely5 · 22/04/2017 09:31

Op

I guarantee if you eat clean you will lose weight.

Fruit, veg, meat, dairy.

Sugar makes people overweight. It is addictive.

Have you ever tried Diet Pepsi? It's better than Diet Coke imo

Check out the low carb threads on here.

The sugar in your Coke has no benefit for your body at all - fat does though. Fat is truly healthy for your brain, gut and all lots of other things.

Processed foods are man made chemicals conjured up in a lab somewhere. They aren't good for your body and or your mind

TittyGolightly · 22/04/2017 09:51

Titty op well that's pointing out the obvious is it not? All people with certain diseases or illnesses or whatever need to get info from a gp or dietician but op didn't say she had any of that so totally irrelevant

I'm not diabetic. GPs aren't always up to date on diets. Mine recommended 5:2. I researched widely and found the BSD. It's not only for diabetics or people who know they have issues.

In what way has it not worked for you?

TittyGolightly · 22/04/2017 09:55

Processed foods are man made chemicals conjured up in a lab somewhere. They aren't good for your body and or your mind

Not completely true. Many think oats are healthy, and buy rolled oats believing them to be some sort of wonder food. ROlled oats release starch much faster than steel cut oats. No added chemicals but a change to the existing structure that makes them far less healthy.

Reheating starches (oven chips are twice cooked, pasta in ready meals etc) can also cause issues in some people. The starches are released much faster than in once-cooked foods.

BahHumbygge · 22/04/2017 10:11

Most people who are overweight or obese ~80% will have some form of metabolic dysregulation, eg T2 diabetes, insulin resistance, PCOS, NAFLD etc, as well as being at risk of other metabolic based conditions like certain cancers, heart disease, alzheimers etc.

40% of slim people aren't off the hook either, theyre what's known as TOFI... thin on outside, fat inside, and at the same sorts of risks as their higher bmi friends. They have high levels of visceral fat but tucked away wrapped around their internal organs so it doesn't show.

Humans aren't evolved or designed to eat any sugar, bar a few seasonal fruits and if caveman was v lucky, an occasional abandoned beehive. Likewise excess starchy carbs, though they breakdown to glucose rather than the supercharged fructose, still provokes a strong insulemic response in the body. Insulin is a storage hormone... tells the body to convert the sugars & starches in the diet to fat and lay them down. Too much and the insulin receptors on the cells become "deaf" to insulin, the pancreas has to produce more to overcompensate, and you get insulin resistance which is a precursor to T2 diabetes. Full blown diabetes comes along if you don't change course.

The neolithic diet with high amounts of grain, tubers, legumes and sugar has a whole slew of charges to answer for in terms of human health at the population level. Meat and greens/vegetables with modest amounts of high fibre/lower sugar fruits (like apples/pears/berries rather than mangos and bananas) with good fats like butter, dripping, EV olive oil and coconut is the ideal blueprint to aim for.

The industrial age diet of fondant fancies, snickers, sprite, bbq beef crisps, microwave chicken sweet & sour etc is knocking human health experiences & outcomes in to the rough.

fizzypopaddict · 22/04/2017 10:17

Lots of things to think about. I have been referred for WLS so my last chance to lose weight myself - that's why I've given myself a year.
Sorry not individual replies. My memory is rubbish and using the app doesn't help.
I have been in healthy BMI and lost weight before but due to steroids/health/inactivity/eating crap I'm now morbidly obese.
Well done ellie on the weight loss :)

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LadySpratt · 23/04/2017 08:19

That's great to hear Fizzy. WLS is much more than just meeting the surgeon. You'll get the help you need.
Good luck Flowers

hollyisalovelyname · 23/04/2017 08:52

Diet cola has been now linked to strokes and dementia 😱😰

TittyGolightly · 23/04/2017 09:07

Link please, holly

I don't drink it but would like to know more.

Dogwalker2 · 23/04/2017 09:13

We used to use coke to clean coins! Please give it up for good. It will make you fat, it's not good for you. Wean yourself off it and losing weight will be much easier. I lose weight by steaming, or baking in foil, fish or chicken with lots of veg - no spuds- and low fat yoghurt after. If you can walk 6 miles a day 3 in the morning and at night. It doesn't take that long. 15 mins a mile if you walk briskly. Do it and take control you'll feel great. Good luck and remember don't eat / drink rubbish look at labels. Treat your body well and it will reward you.

TittyGolightly · 23/04/2017 09:15

low fat yoghurt

All sorts of crap in low fat yogurt.

Gwilt160981 · 23/04/2017 09:20

Calorie count 1200 a day. Get fitness pal to help track. Eat I. Moderation as long as you stick to a set calorie goal. I used fitness pal app. I still ate normal but in moderation.

cocobatter · 23/04/2017 09:20

there's NO fat in Coke. however it is high in calories. Coke zero/diet coke have little/no calories, but instead are full of chemicals and there's actually evidence these chemicals make you crave sugar from other sources and you end up compensating.

If you want to drink Coke, stick to original but limit your intake and be sure to keep an eye on the calories.

TittyGolightly · 23/04/2017 09:23

instead are full of chemicals

Is it possible to drink full fat coke and still lose weight?!
Empireoftheclouds · 23/04/2017 10:12

Calorie count 1200 a day. calorie counting is fine, but 1200 a day isn't for everyone. There are lots of variables involved so if anyone does want to start losing weight by calorie counting, please do some calculations first. My fitness pal will do it for you if you give it your weight and a few other details.

TittyGolightly · 23/04/2017 10:22

BSD is 800 cals per day which is scientifically tested and proven to reverse insulin issues including diabetes. The make up of the food is as important as the calories though - sugar/carbs and any sort of seeetner is out.

karalime · 23/04/2017 10:28

How about fizzy water with ice and lemon/lime/orange?

I tried this when I was cutting down my drinking and it's quite a good substitute imo

hollyisalovelyname · 23/04/2017 10:31

TittyGoLightly
I can't do links, sorry, but the front page story on the Daily Express ( UK) of Thursday 20 th April 2017 is about Diet cola and it's links to dementia and stroke.
Google it.

EnglishGirlApproximately · 23/04/2017 10:48

OP - check out Richie Howie and team rh on Facebook, fantastic realistic nutrition advice. There are lots of people in the group with a lot of weight to lose doing it successfully without following any restrictive fads. I can recommend him highly enough - I've lost nearly 2st since January and I'm eating food I love.

Don't go down to 1200 calories it's far too low, you need a calorie deficit of -500 to lose a pound a week and at your weight your tdee will be much higher than 1700. I burn 2500 calories a day at my weight being moderately active.

fizzypopaddict · 23/04/2017 22:34

I will definitely get my fitness pal sounds good.

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TittyGolightly · 23/04/2017 23:36

the front page story on the Daily Express

I'd literally rather eat shit.

(Will google for a kosher story though. The Express isn't known for its truthfulness.)

TittyGolightly · 23/04/2017 23:37

Don't go down to 1200 calories it's far too low

Bollocks it is!

TittyGolightly · 23/04/2017 23:39

As I suspected:

"Overall, when taking account of all health and lifestyle factors that could have an influence (confounders), the researchers actually found no link between artificially sweetened drinks and risk of dementia.

"The figures reported in the media came from a model that wasn't adjusted for all confounders, such as diabetes, that could explain part of the link."

www.nhs.uk/news/2017/04April/Pages/Reported-link-between-diet-drinks-and-dementia-and-stroke-is-weak.aspx

fizzypopaddict · 25/04/2017 18:35

had a bit of a wake up call today, had outpatient appointment and told I need an mri scan (poor health, have lupus) and they are unsure weather I will fit in a scanner.
The consultant weighed me and ive put on a massive 37kg since last august!! (was 105kg now I'm 142kg!)
I must have a severe problem, I know I'm big but to be this big is a shock.
In my teens I always thought I was overweight when I wasn't, and dieted hard and now I'm like this.
Sorry Ive rambled on a bit here

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AddToBasket · 26/04/2017 07:47

Aw, OP, you poor thing. What a shock. Flowers

Have you read some weight-loss success stories? I think those are brilliant for upping motivation. You can do it.

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