The fat shaming clip

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nicole arbour

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I didn't think it was so bad! she's not singling out one person like say karl lagerfeld when he called adele fat. SHe says she is saying what your friends won't say. I know it's to get hits, and publicity, but I don't think it's that shocking.

WOw. Hard hitting.

yupp!

That is pretty brutal but actually I can't argue with the logic behind it.

Yes we all know "eat less, move more" but if only applying it were that easy.

I think she needs to take a long hard look at herself before she starts criticising others. "Stupes" indeed.

Eat less and move more doesnt work, at the societal level. Shaming people never works anyway, but science is now showing that obesity is a symptom of metobolic disease, not the cause (the cause is sugar in EVERYTHING). As obesity continues to rise, the odds are stacked against all of us... Watch out, lady, because in a decade you might be packing on the pounds and not know why...

I know, no acknowledgement that people could be feeding another unmet need, or indeed, the sugar and corn syrup added to everything and their addictive nature.........

I agree it might be thrown back at her in ten years or fifteen! I'm finding it harder and harder to stay slim. Was never a problem in my teens twenties and thirties. Takes WORK and thoguht now.

In my 60 s it's coming off much slower if at all.

Definitely have a low metabolic rate. My friend ( male) aged 34 is a tall , over 6 feet , thin lanky guy worked out it would take him to eat 4000 calories a day to put weight on. He tried it for a week and just felt sick.

Hes gone back to his usual diet and forever hitching his jeans up! Bless!

Sadly one of the joys in life is eating what you enjoy and enjoying what you eat.

I used to enjoy a small bar of chocolate a day , now since cutting out chocolate / sugar I have a square now and then.

On my diet I should be size 10 but I struggle to maintain a 14.

No, I don't agree shaming somebody into losing weight is going to work.

Many people are emotional eaters, myself included. I am losing weight slowly but am generally happy with my progress. Of course, I am still very overweight and i think if somebody fat shamed me, it could have a detrimental effect to my weight loss as I would emotionally eat crap and potentially give up.

I hate it. It's not funny, it's sneery, and making people feel terrible about themselves is not going to help them make better choices. People should stop fat shaming and think "there but for the grace of god...." because usually the sneerers are the ones with a gym membership and a car so they can drive to the supermarket and buy healthy food at reasonable prices. Maybe the overweight person is holding down 2 jobs, or is a carer who's surviving on 4 hrs sleep, or has major financial/relationship problems or just no other affordable way to treat themselves.

Telling overweight people to "just eat less and move more" is like telling poor people to "just earn more". My friend showed me the link on FB and I must admit I do think less of her for it. I think she could tell by my face that I wasnt that impressed.

If people are really so massively concerned about overweight people ('cos y'know I'm just soooo worried about their health) they should lobby for taxes on unhealthy foods to subsidise healthy foods, vending machine bans in schools, government buildings etc. People say "well it's about individual responsibility" but willpower only goes so far. 50% of the British population used to smoke. Now only 10% does. Think about how that was achieved.

50% of the British population used to smoke. Now only 10% does. Think about how that was achieved

I think it was in part by shaming people into realising their behaviour was unacceptable - see also: drink driving as example of behaviour that was fairly normal or at least better tolerated in the 70s than it is now. There is probably a small role for a little bit of public disapproval when it comes to changing behaviours with public health in mind.

I haven't watched this video, and don't intend to. I know that, with my mental health issues, low self esteem and being very overweight, I will take it all to heart, and will come away thinking the world would be better off without me.

That is what fat-shaming does for me.

It is hard to look after yourself (and after all, that is what's at the basis of healthy eating and weight loss - taking care of your body), when you don't like yourself - which I don't.

Maybe there's an element of self-harm - I know the food is bad for me, I know I am at risk for type 2 diabetes (and all the health problems that can cause), but I carry on doing something I know is hurting me.

And 'Eat Less, Move More' - sounds great, but when you are my size, your joints hurt if you walk any distance, and so does your back. I went through a phase of going to the gym last year - but the short stints I did on the treadmill (3x10 minutes, interspersed with work on the weights machines) left me unable to move - even walking up from the carpark became too hard. Hell - never mind walking - a couple of years back, I stood for a couple of hours, on a stone floor (rehearsing for a carol concert, then performing it), and having had a slightly sore knee when I went in, I left, in severe pain, and couldn't walk properly for 6 weeks.

Well she's spot on about a lot of things.

But she posted it as a deliberate ploy to become YouTube famous which is a bit desperate and sad.

I think it was in part by shaming people into realising their behaviour was unacceptable I disagree- I think disapproval about smoking in the absolute sense followed massive restrictions on it (i.e. when you could smoke everywhere, no-one tutted about people smoking in the play area at the park. Now it's really frowned upon.

Also, smoking near you and drink driving near you are not comparable because someone doing those impacts you. Someone being fat doesn't impact you.

The things that really reduced smoking were the advertising ban, taxing it to shit, and then banning it pretty much everywhere- public transport, planes, shops, cinemas, restaurants and pubs, work places etc. The number of opportunities for smoking within a given day fell dramatically. People stopped smoking as much, and smoking less makes it easier to quit completely, especially when it's turning you into a social pariah who has to huddle in a damp doorway to get their fix.

Obesity is a massive public health issue on a par with smoking. It needs to be tackled head on, at policy level, by restricting the marketing, sale and consumption of junk food. The reason a large proportion of the population is obese is because we live in an environment with a large amount of highly palatable, calorie dense food. As long as that persists, people will be fat. As it is, no-one's taking control of it and charlatans keep coming up with different ways to sell us ways to eat less by restricting one or more types of food. Madness.

And shaming fat people just leads to depressed fat people, not slim people.

first you say obesity doesn't impact [upon] others then you equate it to smoking as a public health issue - if there is a threat to the wellbeing of the general public then in a way it is or should be everyone's business

but I agree with you that shame is not usually helpful in changing behaviours, that's why I said probably a small role for a little bit of public disapproval - there's a limited extent to which our behaviours are shaped and reinforced by external factors like perceived norms and prevailing attitudes, as you say there's much more to it than that