Slimming World or WW No Count?

[Gillian76]

What's the difference? From what I can tell there seems to be no weighing on No Count but less restrictions on when/what you can eat on SW. Is this about right?

I need to do something. Can anyone 'sell' either plan to me?

Please?

Surely somebody must have an opinion? [Billy no mates emoticon]

Hi

Don't have any experience of WW but Crunchie wrote this really good explanation of SW (which I'm doing and it's going really well).

OK Here goes, Crunchies definative guide to Slimming WOrld.

It is not food combining, it is 'food optimising' if you want to believe the hype. Basically it has Red and Green days and they work as follows:

Red Day

Free Food - eat as much as you want cooked without added fat (also trim all fat off before cooking, although you can leave skin on poultry, just don't eat it)

• All Red Meat
• all Poultry
• all Fish
• all shellfish
• Bacon and some sausages
• eggs, very low fat Cottage cheese, VLF natural yoghurt, VLF Fromage Frais, Quorn
• all vegetables, excluding potatoes, sweetcorn, parsnips
• all fruit, including bananas

Healthy Extras - measured quantities of foods designed to give you added calcium, vitamins etc. You can choose one milk option, one cheese option and two others.

• Milk, for instance 250 ml of semi-skimmed
• cheese, approx 28g of most cheeses or more of low fat ones
• bread, 57g of wholemeal bread (2 slices of SMALL loaf, or small roll)
• breakfast cereal, 2 weetabix or approx 30g of lots of high fibre cereals
• 8oz potato (jacket), or 7oz new potatos (in skins)
• 2oz of wholemeal pasta
• various different crispbreads, cooked fruit, soups etc.

Lastly SYNS
EVerything else has a sin value and you can eat approx 10 sys a day

• 2 small glasses wine (10 sins)
• small chocolate bar (10 sins)

Now you can try Green days, BUT YOU CANNOT MIX THEM IN ONE DAY!!

Green Days - Free food as before cooked without added fat

• All Fruit
• All Veg, inc potatoes, sweetcron, parsnips
• All Pasta (dried not fresh)
• All Rice
• All Grains like couscous, polenta etc
• Legumes like Kidney beans, lentils etc
• eggs, very low fat Cottage cheese, VLF natural yoghurt, VLF Fromage Frais, Quorn

Healthy Extras - measured amounts as before, milk, cheese, cereals, bread PLUS

• 3oz red meat
• 6oz chicken
• 6oz prawns

You can have one milk choice, one cheese choice and 2 others such as cereal and a 'protien'

Syns
As before everything else!!

Thats the basics. However on top of this load of free food there are loads of other things that are free like Baked Beans on a green day and certain susages on red.

Lastly to help you understand I will give you a red day and a green day

RED DAY
Cooked breakfast of bacon, free sausages, eggs, mushrooms, grilled tomatoes (remember ketchup/brown sauce is sysn, a good dollop is about one syn)
2 Slices wholemeal toast - from small loaf.
Lunch - Large salad with Tuna or Prawns or chicken, with dressing made from yoghurt and lemon juice, or low fat dressing (about 2 syns)
Supper - Huge steak or roast chicken with small jkt potatao or new potato, loads of brocoli and carrots.
Snacks
Muller lite yoghurts (free)
Low cal jelly (whole pack 2 sins - serves 4)
Wine - small glass 5 syns.
5 laughing cow light triangle cheeses (healthy extra)
Milk for tea/coffee (healthy extra)
Total syns - 10
Ketchup - 1
Salad dressing - 2
Wine - 5
Jelly - 2

Average Green day
Cooked breakfast - Quorn sausages, mushrooms, baked beans, grilled tomatoes, fried eggs (fry light), home-made hash browns (grated potato/onion/spices - fried in fry light)
Lunch
Massive Jacket potato with cottage cheese or veggie chilli, and salad
Dinner - Pasta with vegetable sauce, parmesan as healthy extra
Snacks as before
could add in meat or chicken into pasta as Healthy extra or have Tuna in luchtime jacket. Or have Ryvitas and low fat cream cheese as snack
Syns
2 glasses wine or small pack low fat crisps (5 sins) and 2 jaffa cakes (5 sins)

Have you all ogt bored yet??

Does it make sense??

Go buy the magazine which gives a week of red and a week of Green menus and more ideas!!

HTH

The only thing you have to weigh on slimming world is your healthy extras such as cheese and breakfast cereal. IMO slimming world is better it focuses on what you can eat not what you can't and I never feel deprived on it. When i've done weight watchers in the past (granted i've never done No count) I'm always hungry and get obsessed with food I think SW is alot healthier.

Can I just say that in fact you can mix red and green days on slimming world in one day and follow the mix to match plan this allows you to have 3 meals red or green each time.

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WW no count also focuses on what you can eat- you have ahuge list of healthy foods to choose from at meals and some left over for treats, it also addresses the portion control as youa re supposed to stop when you feel full: i think that is important.

Personally WW worked a treat for me and I endorse it with all my heart, found it really easy to follow too- lots of casseroles, rice dishes, etc plus you can eat carbs and meat together which I gather from my ssiters that you cannot with SW? migt be wrong.

Plus it worked for me, and both mys sisters gained everything back on SW.

(Oh and for a brief- on noc ount you have a long list of free foods of which you can eat unlimited amounts at your three meals: these are on the whole unprocessed foods, though a few things like snackajacks jumbo sneak in. Fish, fruit and veg, lean meat and fish, pulses, carbs sucha s rice, portatoes, apsta- plenty of options. You can snack on fruit at any time, or on their own brand sweets. The rule is that you eat three meals a day but stop when you feel full- that's about learning lifelong skills. Then you get 21 points of treats to use a week- I find wine is a good use , you may prefer cheese or whatever. You can earn extra points as well with exercise)

Thanks guys

Will ponder and let you know my decision!

Just to say you can eat carbs and meat together on slimming world just that on a green day you have more carbs and less meat (meat counts as a healthy extra) and on a red day you eat less carbs and more meat. You can do red days, green days, mix 2 match days and super success days any day you want and still lose weight therefore it's not restrictive at all.

Have been wondering all this myself. I actually joined SW on line last year but I just don't "get" how it works. REally need to lose weight now and am also TTC - AFAIK SW can be done while PG.