Healthy food bloats me :(

[daisydee43]

Hi am currently at target weight!!! I normally eat crap but I though for a change for my family I would introduce more fruit/veg/yogs but I feel really bloated (no longer hungry tho) - is this normal? What other things can we snack on which are less bloating (dd is 2 yo)

well done on getting to target
you do not need to be snacking, at all, ever
what is your TDEE ? - allow 25% for breakfast, 25% for lunch, and 50% for supper

DD will be fine munching on carrots, lumps of cheese, raisins, bread and butter
but really you need to make sure she does not snack in the hour or two before meals : so that she learns healthy eating patterns

Hi what is tdee sorry?

Disagree about snacking...some people suit little and often rather than traditional meals only. But I know what you mean about healthy eating and bloating..affects me too. I love healthy soups at lunchtime and they really fill me up but I'm so uncomfortable in the afternoon. I do think moving around helps..not exercise necessarily just getting up and walking about so your food doesn't sit in your stomach so much...but my job is v sedentary so it's hard to actually do that...watch your sugar intake too lots of fruit and yoghurt tends to ferment and cause bloating

Primadonna Snacking was invented in the 1970's by the food companies. It did not exist before then.
Snacking between meals is one of the major causes of people being overweight

Daisy
pop your details in here
thefastdiet.co.uk/how-many-calories-on-a-non-fast-day/
and it will tell you how many calories you need

Still disagree..you are overweight if you ingest more calories than you burn..how you break it up,is up to you..2000 calories divided between 3 meals is the same as 2000 calories divided between five sessions of eating

but snackers are terrible at working out how many calories they are eating
they regularly have 2000 at meal times and another 1500 in snacks
you just need to look at the food diaries on MFP - and how the no snacking mantra tallies with weight loss

slim people snack because they have teeny meals
fat people snack as well as having large meals

Well personally I've always snacked even when dieting and now I'm at target snacking meals I can have smaller meals but what snacks are best

TalkinPeace
Snacking was invented in the 1970's by the food companies. It did not exist before then. Snacking between meals is one of the major causes of people being overweight

I'm afraid both of those claims are absolute nonsense. If cutting out snacks works for you, TalkinPeace, then good for you. But please don't demonise snacking - there's nothing intrinsically wrong with it. Personally, I would find only eating at mealtimes too restrictive.

daisydee I wonder if it's the volume of fruit/veg that's causing bloating, or perhaps a particular food that doesn't agree with you? It might be worth keeping an eye on when the bloating occurs, and looking at the items that might be causing it.

fascicicle
Its not rubbish. Both Jacques Peretti and Michael Mosely traced snacking back no further than "have a break have a " and "helps you work rest and play"
before that, meals were meals and gaps were gaps
the research in support of "little and often" has pretty much all turned out to have been funded by the food industry

the evidence that grazing / snacking leads to weight piling on due to nadgering the insulin system is piling up.

nobody needs to eat more often than every five or six hours : if you think you do, then look at what fluids you are taking in and the nutritional balance of your meals .... most people do not wake up to eat in the middle of the night after all

What exactly did Jacques Peretti and Michael Mosely say? The 1970s may well have marked a growth in the convenience snack market, but snacks were not invented in the 1970s.

When do you think sweets, crisps and biscuits were invented, or do you believe these items were eaten only as part of a meal prior to the 70s?

I'm sure there's plenty of evidence throughout history of snacking, but in the meantime, here's something entitled 'Snacking Through Shakespeare' (i.e. evidence of snacking 400 years ago):

www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/features/shakespeares-restless-world/transcripts/snackingthroughshakespeare/

fascicle
we are heading heavily off thread here

crisps and sweets were part of meals
shakesperean snacks were instead of meals, not as well as : food was effing expensive them

eating every couple of hours is a modern western construct, and an incredibly damaging one at that

I wonder why you would want to defend it on a weight loss forum, unless you work for a snack food company

My grandparents ate breakfast, elevenses, lunch, afternoon tea, dinner and supper...well before the seventies.

My other grandparents had a drawer full of porridge for snacking on, it was cut up and taken out to be eaten at work between meals as had happened for generations.

I find it quite hard to believe that the concept of having snacks as well as meals was invented in the seventies.

I agree that limiting snacks is useful if trying to lose weight if you're someone who grazes all day without paying attention, but a calorie controlled diet works no matter whether you split it between 3 meals or 5.

tabulahrasa (shame you cannot have your lovely ebay cat picture on this forum)
what did your grandparents "do" ?
and what were they doing in between : pasties and sealed pies were invented to allow farm workers to scoff while working, BUT the total calories intake balance 80 years ago was so utterly different from today

if you burned off 5000 walking behind a horse all day, 1000 at the start of the day, 20o0 during the day and then 2000 at the end of the day pans out

only in the 1970's was snacking invented as a lifestyle choice
and an utterly destructive one it has been too

and actually calorie controlled diets on their own are shown not to work unless people work with their insulin / grehlin / leptin / vagus nerve systems
all systems designed to cope with gaps between food intake and thus thrown out of balance by snacking

TalkinPeace
Please tell me where Jacques Peretti and Michael Moseley say that snacking was invented in the 1970s? And where have you read that sweets and crisps were only consumed as part of a meal prior to the 70s? How do you know that Shakespearean snacks were only consumed instead of meals?

Whilst your methods work for you, it is not ok for you to tell other people they shouldn't snack. A key reason why diets don't work is because people can't stick to them. Many people - including me - would find a no snack rule unnecessary and unsustainable.

blah blah bye

Daisydee fruit breaks down really quickly and is best eaten separately. Either eat fruit 20 minutes before anything else or eat it 2 hours after other food.
I used to get a terrible bloated belly - hard as a rock and noisy if I ate fruit straight after a meal. But separating fruit solved the problem. It's worth a try.
I'll try and find the info source but it was some time ago.