Paul McKenna Can Make Us Thin! Thread Number 14 ~ A Simple Title, for Simple Weight Loss and All amongst Friends!!

[Solo]

Welcome to thread 14 of the Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin weight loss system.

The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded friendly support system are:

1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONSCIOUSLY
4. STOP eating when you are satisfied and full

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches. After all, eating a meal is not a competition, it's about enjoying what you are putting into your mouth and body, but not feeling bloated and uncomfortable (or guilty) afterwards!
Many people have issues around food. Many of us have been brought up by the 'clear your plate' parents of yesteryear which leave us feeling guilty if we leave even the smallest morsel of food, but we are working through this guilt or any other hang up we may have, and we are learning to leave a bit on the plate; return to it another time if we really want to or even feed it to the dog or the bin!
So!! forget diets; they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. This is a new way of living for your brand new life!! Let's get lighter for those summer outfits!!

The Paul McKenna system really works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here are the book choices on AMAZON which is all you need to get started! they aren't compulsory, but they do help! it's something to refer to and listening to the cd's can really focus you.

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

You don't have to buy the book and CD, but we have found that they do help and somehow they keep you on track, so it would probably be a good investment and will cost you far less than a couple of trips to WW or SW meetings, so do consider having them in your life.

Please feel free to join us, whether it's 10lbs or 10 stones you want to lose.
We are friendly, supportive and successful, but we're not hungry and that is a great way to feel when you are dropping dress sizes at the same time!!! so come on in and start living your new life today and make 2014 your year to drop a dress size or several...if we can get those lbs off a few at a time, just think how we could look and feel for the sunny summer time!!!
Some of our thread members are also doing PMK's Virtual Gastric Band and although this thread is not about this avenue, we will still be supportive of our friends partaking of this, so don't think we won't be there for you. I'm pretty sure that the Golden Rules will be just as helpful in this process as the I Can Make You Thin process so get stuck in

Here is a link to Freedom From Emotional Eating which may give some insight into why we do this and help us beat it.

[MillyRules]

I also found that in the beginning you generally overeat because of the years of diets and depriving yourself. Food takes awile to become "normal" again .

[Solo]

But it's unlikely to take 6 months to start losing the weight. Much more likely to happen sooner.

Please remember to self admire in the mirror and appreciate the good bits of your body...even that today, your hair is looking extra shiny/curly/good...and say it out loud too! my one was (at first) "nice tits!" I don't even use the word 'tits' because I don't like it, but it was, I suppose, getting around the embarrassment of saying anything remotely nice about me I mean, if no one else says anything nice about me (my body), how on earth can it be easy for me to see anything, let alone say it.

Drink more water too. :)

Do you all still leave at least a mouthful of food on your plate? I've started to do that again; it's easy to forget, but I think it's important.

Do any of you also get a 'full signal?' like a sigh during your meal. I get this and it tells me that I'm full so I stop eating. I can always go back to it later on if I'm hungry again :)

[MardyBra]

I thought Russell was like a jumped-up idealistic sixth former in that interview. Where are his solutions.

Anyway back to Pauling. I fell asleep so soundly during my trance last night, I woke myself up snoring!

[MardyBra]

TheDoctrine - I'm the heaviest I've ever been and I'd put good money on it being more than you. Been Pauling again since Monday and I already feel more motivated. Albeit sceptical of that bloody havening.

[MardyBra]

Solo I'm wondering if I should try the gastric band CD. I struggle with the full signal and don't recognise the sigh.
Yesterday I got to the end of the Eat with Paul CD from FFEE. After 20 minutes of increasingly slow eating, there was some message at the end hinting that I really ought to be full by now.

[Solo]

Mardy did you feel full then or feel you were still hungry? did you stop or continue eating?

I also want to start the HGB. I need to read the book, but I believe that you have to do a 'pre op' diet to shrink your liver. Fancy doing it with me? at the same time :)

I got my book today (from the web chat) and I was soooo disappointed. It isn't signed!! :( but hey! I'm very glad to have it

[TheDoctrineOf2014]

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[TheDoctrineOf2014]

It is really annoying me that I can't do the hypnosis if I go to bed past midnight as the app has gone on to the next day.

[MardyBra]

"Mardy did you feel full then or feel you were still hungry? did you stop or continue eating"

I did stop but I wasn't sure if I was full or not. 20-30 minutes later I was fine but it took a long time to register. Maybe I'm so used to eating till stuffed, my full signal is fucked.

Interestingly I observed dd this evening doing a bit sigh at dinner. When I said "that's a big sigh", she said "oh, just full up" and stopped eating. She and Dh are naturally thin. I worry about Ds because he seems to be an emotional eater like me.

I wish I could just do the sigh and stop.

[MardyBra]

Wrt to the HGT, I need to look at it again. I bought a year ago, read the book and couldn't be arsed to do the pre HGT regime.
I didn't even watch the DVD

[MillyRules]

I didn't do the pre op just read the book and did the cd. It is the best cd for me and I find it works really well.

[Solo]

Doc I don't have the app, so not exactly sure how it is different. Is there a way of downloading it to something else so you can listen at your own pace?

Oh, that's interesting Mardy. So you were full, but didn't realise. If you do that every time you eat, you are going to have the weight fall off I reckon! wow!
Interesting that you heard your Dd's full signal too :) How old are your Dc's? is Ds old enough to read and understand the FFEE book do you think? without making him aware of any concern you might have. It's such a worry that a) kids will have food/eating issues and b) they won't, but not in a good way IYSWIM? My 15yo Ds does not. stop. eating!! which worries me, but because he's stick thin, it sounds absurd that I worry.

I haven't actually read the HGB book. I find reading can be really draining on me these days. My DVD was missing from the book, but I understand it was the Havening one and there's one of those in my FFEE book, so will look at that one instead. Let me know if you want to do it together.

Rules I assume not doing the pre op made no difference? I'd prefer to just get on with it than have to cut out fats and sugars...

[MardyBra]

Hi solo. Dd is just 15. She is slim and beautiful and sweet and kind and hardworking and emotionally sorted (afaik). Sort of the antithesis of me!

DS is nearly 12. He struggles more socially (very bright but less emotional intelligence). He definitely sees food as an emotional reward. I've tried so hard not to project my feelings on the kids. I've wondered how much the overeating urge is innate versus learned. Presumably from an evolutionary perspective it made sense to want fill yourself up when food was available. It's only since too much unhealthy food has been around that this has got buggered up.

[Solo]

Yes. Since I have had crap available in my house, I've been buggered up! not to mention Ds just eats it all too.
Do you think your Son is mature enough for the book? or would it make matters worse for him? so hard to know what to do for the best isn't it?! :(

[Bonnie152]

Hi everyone. I've not been around for ages! Still adamant that I want to lose weight with PM but just can't seem to motivate myself

Last night DH and I had a chat about things and he thinks we should start TTC#2 but I've said since DD I don't want another til I've lost weight (partly because I want to use a birthing pool like last time and not be high risk). He subtlety hinted that I should go to slimming world with my mum who's on the diet and doing really well but it just isn't sitting right with me.

I'm determined to give PM one last try because I know I'll feel deprived on SW, fall off the wagon and put on even more weight!

I really need to dedicate an afternoon to reading the book again and listening to the CD.

Feeling really down about it all at the moment, feel like I'm never going to lose the weight I could kick myself as I put on v little weight in my pregnancy but then spiralled out of control after I'd had her.

Sorry to come on here being a negative nelly, I don't know what to do for the best at the moment and feel like I need some support. Been keeping up with the thread just not actually putting this woe into practice!

[TheDoctrineOf2014]

Bonnie, I put on weight after DS2 was born rather than in the pregnancy - you're tired and busy, it's easy to "shovel" in food on the run.

Solo, the app unlocks one day at a time, hopefully when the first seven days are finished I will be able to do the hypnosis any time.

[NoGoodAtWittyNames]

Oops fell off the thread. So last week was utter shit, self -sabotage just spiralled out of control and had a full week of binging, feel (and look) like crap now. So time to pick myself up and stop the whole "only doing this to develop a healthy relationship with food" bollocks, I do really want to lose weight, but seriously need to stop self-sabotaging. So plan of action, off work next week so once little ones in bed will have the evenings to myself so going to fully immerse myself in all things PM, he claims you can make huge progress in just 5 days and even though don't really believe him going to put him to the test.

Bonnie I feel your pain, but don't give up, we will get there. Diets are the devil! Not sure what to suggest to get you back on track other than making sure you listen to the cd everyday and re-reading the books to get you back in the zone. Do you have any me-time at all? I think when you have kids you put everyone else before yourself, but it's important to remember your own self-worth.

Doc I have the ICMYT app (not the 7 day one) and that let's you listen to the trance anytime and isn't linked in to the journal, that sounds like it might work better for you.

[yippeekiyay2]

Morning all - TGIS for me as my dd decided she wanted to be awake between 1am and 7am last night, and then back up again at 9:30 - meaning that me and hubby have had very little sleep and are feeling v grumpy :(
Even worse though is that yesterday I had a total binge - after coming in from work I just seemed to lose the plot - eating thing after thing, not slowly, ignoring my hunger signals deliberately etc. Really cross with myself - it is a little bit of self-sabotage I think but also a confirmation for me that I really do have issues with emotional eating - started reading the book last night and it sounds promising but I need to have the time to really focus on it and this is part of what affects my emotions - I don't actually have any child-free time except when I'm at work, as we don't live near any grandparents etc. - that was part of what got me down last night I think, as I finish early to go and pick her up straight from school, which is nice to do but it means there is a lot of time in the evening where I am tired from work and she is wanting to do things and food feels like my escape/treat etc. Even worse I doubly sabotaged myself last night as I could have gone to the gym when hubby was home (would have been child-free time I guess!) but I keep putting it off because I feel so un-fit I know that sounds crazy but I always feel such a heifer in the gym compared to the other people there - I really want to get back outside running but need to build up my fitness first - it's a vicious circle!
Still, one thing that resonated for me last night was no matter that I had a blip I DO NOT want to go back to dieting - it has just lost it's shine for me and feels so restrictive when I want to be able to have choice and enjoy eating out etc - especially now that I do it so rarely!
hope your days have all been better. having a drink now to try and wake myself up!

[yippeekiyay2]

Bonnie I agree with you on not feeling right with the diets - hubby still wants me to go back to WW I think (not said anything as he's far too nice for that! but I can tell he feels there will be more 'control' that waY) but that's not making me happy and the evidence suggests I might lose some but then it would go back on...So stick to your guns! I would like to have a second child too but want to be a healthy weight to do it - I was overweight when I had dd and although it didn't actually cause any problems for me it was NOT comfortable! stick with it and stay on the thread - I am finding it is really helping me :)

[yippeekiyay2]

NoGood sounds like you have had the same sort of sabotage issues as me - we just have to stick at this - it makes sense so why go back to feeling like the food is in control (or the diet company!) Both of us should aim for better times today :)

[Solo]

Hello Bonnie :) welcome back! Wow! I think you have got great motivation now in TTC! You definitely can do it. We all can!

Doc I see! perhaps the one Witty mentions would work better? I don't know as I don't have apps...

[Solo]

Hi Yippee you do actually sound determined and that's a good % of the battle I think, so well done!
Regarding your feelings about being at the gym. Forget those feelings. I can't exercise as I used to because of my ME, but when I did go (3-4 times a week), I used to see to Indian sisters there, working out and not giving a crap about anyone else. They were still big girls, but had lost bundles of weight and determined to lose more! No one took any notice of them at all in any negative way. So! go to the gym and don't worry about other people!! :)

Back on the wagon everyone please! hold hands and resolve that WE CAN AND WILL DO THIS TOGETHER !

Have a great day :)

[TheDoctrineOf2014]

I feel like you yippee about not being fit enough for the gym.

[Bonnie152]

Thanks for the support everyone! I'm determined to do this now!
Spoke to hubby and explained why I don't want to do a particular diet and he's been really supportive, we've planned out some really tasty meals for next week and feeling motivated. I am really big I suppose, tall and well built. Am about a size 20 at the moment and would like to be a 16 so hopefully achievable with this woe.

I don't get much 'me time' tho hubby is fantastic and I know I could ask him to look after DD for a few hours while I do whatever I want etc. Dd goes to sleep at about 6:30pm so have lots of time to do things for me in the evening, problem is because of my size by the time she's in bed I have no energy.

Hubby and I going out for a meal tonight (2nd time in a year so excited!).

Glad to see everyone is doing so well on here! Really inspires me

[Solo]

Bonnie I understand the having no energy thing, but if you were to just push yourself to do 10 minutes a night for a week, then 15, 20 and gradually increase it, you will find it easier. I used to swim and started at 10 widths (was a leisure pool, no lengths) and gradually increased to 100. It took a little while, but it did take some pushing to achieve. You can do it though :)