ALIZONNE!

[Beccie77]

Hello all Alizonners out there, starting a new thread as the old one is full to bursting, and I still want to know how everyone is doing and any tips.

Thanks Brigidwasp :)

I didn't have a weigh in on Saturday, and the doctor recommended that I don't weigh myself at home either, but I couldn't resist. In my head I'd put on loads - I was feeling blobby so I jumped on and was pleased. I've put on half a kg from my last weigh-in, which is completely manageable. I thought it would be a lot more than that, so I'm very happy.

Even better news this morning. I can resume Phase 1 immediately!! Woo hooo!!!! My doctor phoned a few others in the Alizonne network, as she said she would. In particular the doctor in Leeds has given her a wealth of information. He was very happy with my liver results, and said he sees this a lot in patients. Some patients simply struggle more than others in terms of their liver working hard, but as soon as they start the maintenance phase, it calms right down fairly quickly. The fact that my liver improved so much after just one week demonstrates that my liver is not "damaged" as such, just working hard and will recover once the diet is finished. He's given my doctor some statistics and has said at what levels she needs to worry - but right now my liver is nowhere near the levels where he would worry.

So great news. Obviously it would have been nicer if all doctors in the Alizonne network knew this to start with, as I wouldn't have lost two weeks, but I'm still very happy considering how I thought this would end!

Hello all,

Munchkinbud, good to know you are feeling much better.

I have been offline for a longtime due to work schedules, I finished my alizonne treatment 3 weeks ago and I am now back to normal or rather sensible eating patterns, I eventually stopped at 98kg after losing 32kg, it has been quite an experience and I am now trying to maintain the weight by choosing what I eat and going to the gym once a week, I have also started morning walks twice a week. I was given a food bible with calorie breakdown of all the meals you can think of down to menus for the likes of macdonald, pizza hut, nandos etc.

I do miss the alizonne regime, the weekly weight loss, the treatment and body suit, I guess the only thing I dont miss is swiping my card...lol

Please do keep up the hard work, it can be inconvenient but it is worth every effort.

Every inch or gram lost is a loss in the right direction and a reason to celebrate

@munchkinbug - that's the best news you could get then, excellent! you lost two weeks but only putting 0,5kg back on is almost nothing, you'll get back on track in no time :)

@jafojo - good to hear from you! so you're totally done and eating normal again, so jealous! hehe :P well done by the way!!
The other day I also thought I would miss my weekly treatments and I'm quite used to the timing of the meals and so on. But after several months, it's starting to hurt spending money like this!

I'm now kind of stuck in phase 3. It's been 2 very bad weeks, first week I didn't lose anything, second week only lost 0,3kg, so it's starting to get frustrating, specially knowing I am sticking to it 100%. I only have a few kg left now though, so if next week I still don't lose anything or next to nothing, I'm considering asking them to start phase 4 straight away. I'm pretty happy with how I look now, but not happy spending all this money every week with no weight loss whatsoever. If next week I lose about a kg, then I will wait another week to try to reach my target.

Has anyone experienced this in phase 3?

Great news. Went for my first weigh in again after resuming phase 1 and I'm actually 1.3g lighter than my last weigh in over two weeks ago. Feeling very positive. I've lost 22kg in total.

1.3g!!! Hahaha typo, 1.3kg. I wouldn't be please about a gram!

I have a question for those of you who have done phase 2 - how did your average weekly weight loss compare with phase 1? Was it a lot less, or was it not too bad?

Hi guys!! Guess what??? I've finally under 200 lbs :D :D 197 to be precise. So after 17 weeks I've lost 69 lbs!! I'm so chuffed!!!

@ Munchkinbug - I'm so happy for you! You did so well during your Alizonne free time as well!! I asked the clinic about changing phases and they said an approximate way of looking at it is that you will lose roughly 40% less per week in phase two than phase one. Then when you step down to phase three your lose around 40% less than what you lost in phase two.

@ Brigidwasp - It's definitely worth talking to your clinic hun :) Are you exercising with the diet too? Its not a case of your losing fat but putting on muscle??

Sandy x
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@Munchkinbug That's great :D

@Sandyxblog Under 200lbs that's a big achievement, congrats! : )
No I'm not exercising, I was waiting to start phase 4 to start exercising.

Well the thing is that I already talked with them, asking what would be the problem, and if it's possible that my body has had enough, because I remember my doctor (who is not there any more by the way) told me that maybe we would have to modify the goal weight as some times there is just as much you can lose. And I've been asking for the last 3 weeks, but they just say "oh I don't know, why don't you try reducing the snack bars and drinking more?" and another week goes on, 0kg lost, and me swiping my card. Not very happy atm. Next Tuesday I believe it will still be 0kg lost again, (as I haven't lost yet since last weigh in and my scales always give same weight as in the clinic). So if they don't give me any solution or I feel like they're doing something to help, I will just ask to go straight into phase 4.

@brigidwasp, just wondering how you went on?

Hi, all, haven't posted for awhile -quite busy at the mo. Well done Sandy & good news Munchkin !
I lost 3lb at last weigh in, so a pattern emerging of a big loss followed by a small loss. I have 2 kg to Phase 2 which should be the end of next week. Even if I am slightly less than this, I will still go on it then as I am more than ready for real protein.
I went to dinner with friends last night - very easy, ate my sachet food beforehand & had 2 side orders of allowed veg & mineral water to drink & peppermint tea for pudding. But I was AMAZED at the quantity my friends ate & they are not fat! The good thing about Alizonne is you get so used to filling up on veg & I intend for that to stay with me after I finish.
I hope to stay on Phase 2 one month & lose 10 lbs. We shall see.
So far have lost a stone & a half & have been getting into many of my old clothes which is highly gratifying. Weigh in Friday - I expect this to be a small loss week, but will wait & see.

@Munchkinbug I asked to start phasing off as I was tired of wasting time and money after 3 weeks with no loss, but they said that as a last try to boost my weight loss, they would put me back in phase 2 for a week. Next week I also have doctor review so let's see what happens. I really miss the breakfast now, amd the snack bars too! I'm starting to feel really tired of eating always the same thing and I can't wait to finish this now, but I decided to give it a go for the last time before phasing off.

@Moanranger it's such a good feeling to fit into old clothes isn't it! At the moment even my oldest/smallest clothes are too big for me already, I'm quite pleased with that!

Hello! i've just started Alizonne, i'm on day 2! would love to chat with others on the diet! Any tips for making it easier to take the suppliments or any ideas for nice tasting food would be great! i look forward to hearing from you! x

moanranger, please keep us posted. Hope you lose a bit more. It's a horrible diet when you don't lose a damn thing!

@Suzanne, I think I've been chatting with you on the other forum! Lol, I have the same username in each.

Well another weigh in today and I lost 2kg this week! I can officially start phase 2. I'm very nervous. Because of my bizarre tendencies, I'd like to finish off this week on phase 1. I started on a Monday, and I'd like to move to the next phase on Monday too. Plus it uses up my sachets that I keep for evenings.

Had more bloods taken today, so hopefully it's good news.

I have 9kgs left in total, and I'm really hoping to be finished with phase 3 before Christmas, but I guess it all depends on how well I do on phases 2 and 3! Did I mention I'm very nervous?

Edit: I meant brigidwasp, but typed moanranger! You probably figured that out.

@munchkinbug Congrats for making it to phase 2! :) what makes you nervous of phase 2? I'm sure you will enjoy the dinners a lot more now. By the way, if your weight loss stops for one week or even if you gain a kg or so, don't worry, as they said it happens to many people when they switch phase, it lasts only a few days and then you keep losing weight again.
If you are as unlucky as me with phase 2 and 3, it's a bit tight to be done by Christmas. But hopefully that won't happen! Good luck!

For me phase 3 doesn't work. Let's see what happens this week while I'm back in phase 2 again, will let you know how it goes :)

@suzanne welcome and all the best for your Alizonne journey!
Which supplements do you find harder to deal with? In my case I just couldn't stand the calcium chewable one, and my doctor swapped it for an effervescent one with orange flavour. So what I do is I also add the potassium and quinton in there and drink it all in one, it just tastes of orange. It's so much better. It will get better as you get used to them. Now I can even take the quinton on its own with just a sip of water and I don't mind the flavour anymore. But I must confess I will be very happy to stop this supplement craziness every morning!

Hi guys, I've found it really interesting reading through this, I have had my bloods and medgem test and I'm due to start my alizonne on 28th of this month currently 18 stone 2 And I'm aiming for 10 stone 5, I'm going to be at the Wilmslow clinic,

I was wondering if any body could give me some info regarding the vitamins, how much are they and how often do you need to buy them etc? Does everybody take the same ones and can you only buy them from the clinic?
Also my medgem reading is 1800 roughly how does that compare to you guys is it low or high?
Any help would be super appreciated xx

I had my weigh in on Fri & lost another 1kg; 1 more kg this week & it's Phase 2. Really ready for it. My clinic is really busy which I find surprising as I would assume most people would have to be on Phase 1 over Xmas, which would be tough.
I actually think it is going to be very difficult adding in normal food.
Suzanne re making food nicer - first try a wide variety of sachets & figure out which ones you like best. Get very creative with veg: I grill quite a few on a Geo Forman, using spray olive oil, pepper, dried herbs. If you like any of the dessert puddings, make them with a bit more water than indicated & let them sit for an hour or so, and they taste much nicer. My basic meals are pizza & cheese omlette as I can dress these up with a variety of veg & herbs. Recipe book not great, but there is an aubergine dish using the sheeps cheese that is quite yummy and a sort of baba ganoush that I eat with celery to fill up. Good luck!

@ Moanranger - Congrats on your progress!! I know what you mean about being ready for phase two. I'm in my 19th week of Phase One! I've got to stay in Phase one for twenty weeks!! So just a week and a half left hopefully!!

@ Kdaisy - Regarding vitamins
Each day you take:
1 x effervescent sando-k (potassium salt) - get 20 in each tube (lasts 20 days)
1 x alizonne NaCl tablet (sodium salt) - get 60 in each bottle (lasts 60 days)
1 x alizonne Magnesium tablets - get 60 in each bottle (lasts 60 days)
1 x Calcichew D3 Forte tablets (chewable calcium and vitamin D) - get 100 in each pot (lasts 100 days)
2 x Quinton Hypertonic Vials - get 30 per pack - lasts 15 days

Everyone takes this as standard but if your blood tests show you are deficient in a particular salt or vitamin then they may alter what you take. For example, for while my blood pressure dropped rather low so I had to double the sando-k salt tablets to increase it again.

You can buy sando-K and Calcichew D3 from a pharmacy but its pointless as you only save pennies (each is about 30p cheaper) - it'll cost you more to get to get to the pharmacy!! Plus a pharmacy can only sell you sando-K in packs of 100 (5 tubes of 20) and not just 20. So you would have less excess at the end of Alizonne if you buy from the clinic which saves you money. Quinton you can get direct from manufacturer but by the time you pay postage and packaging its more expensive than the clinic.

I can't remember off the top of my head what the prices are but there should be a price list in your starter pack hun.

My medgem was 2140 kcals. The clinic said the average reading is 1800kcals, people under that take a little longer to shift weight, people over that lose it a bit quicker.

Hope that helps

Sandy x

Thanks Sandy that's a big help. (we have spoken on your blog too) your doing so well!

Im due to start next week just trying as best as i can to sort out my finances and make sure i can afford to pay rather than run out of money for it part way through!! I think that is what is worrying me more than anything i cant think of anything worse than finances forcing me to stop.

That sounds like a whole lot of vitamins!

Kayleigh x

So after 3 weeks in phase 3 and no weight loss whatsoever, they put me back to phase 2 for a week. And during this week, I've lost the last 2kg!! Biggest loss ever after first week!! I'm now on my exact target weight finally. Yay!!!
I was getting so frustrated but I'm so pleased now to start phasing off. It's been worth being a little extra patient.
I will have to do one week phase 3 again first so it's all progressive. Then 1x week phase 4, 2x phase 5, 2x phase 6 and 2x phase 7. Phewww I will finish phase 7 just on December 18th. Just on time for Christmas : )

Hope everyone is doing great!

Brigidwasp, that's brilliant! I must say, I'm very jealous that you'll be completely done by Christmas, lol! What an achievement!! So are you happy with your final results? How much have you lost in total, how long have you been on Alizonne? If you don't mind me asking, how many dress sizes did you lose? Sorry for all the questions!

I have my first Phase 2 weigh-in this afternoon. Very nervous about how much I've lost, hopefully a reasonable amount.

Hey Munchkinbug :) Yeah I feel really proud of myself now, and also very happy with the results. Good luck for your first Phase 2 weigh in! I didn't lose anything on that one, but started losing normal again the week after. So don't worry if this happens. :)

I reckon maybe with 2 kg less I would look better, but probably is more a matter of toning my body now rather than losing any more kg. I have a liiiittle bit of loose skin in the belly area (as it was my main problem area), but I'm doing 25 mins of abs every evening + brushing + firming creams, and of course the lipomassage, and it's improving a lot lately.
I'm in better shape than when I was a teenager (less toned though hehe) and smaller size I've ever been since I'm an adult!

I started Alizonne June 11th this year. I've (very slowly) lost a total of 3 stones and 3,5-4 dress sizes (4,5 stones and 5,5-6 dress sizes if I also count when I started my weight loss journey a year before Alizonne). And with Alizonne alone I also lost: 23cm belly / 24cm waist (hello waist!) / 14cm hips / 13cm chest (eeek!! :/) / 8cm thigh / 7cm arm.

I'm still getting used to the new reflection in the mirror, and I finally really enjoy shopping for clothes. It's a new confident me! For those that still have a long way to go, don't give up! this is the best thing I've ever done. Stick to it as much as you can until the end, totally worth the effort and the price.

Weigh in today and very pleased. 1.4kg, so that's a total of 25.4kg in 17 weeks, or 4 stone in old money!

Brigidwasp that's amazing. I've only gone down 3 dress sizes, which is a bit disappointing, as you're not the first person I've heard say that they've gone down more sizes for the same weight. But I guess we're all different, so hey-ho - I'm sure I'll get there eventually!

I second Brigidwasp's sentiments - all those just starting out, it really does work if you keep at it. Xxx