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A space to talk openly about weight loss journeys and challenges. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

ALIZONNE!

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Beccie77 · 04/10/2013 22:42

Hello all Alizonners out there, starting a new thread as the old one is full to bursting, and I still want to know how everyone is doing and any tips.

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Brigidwasp · 29/07/2014 11:53

@lokijet Week 1 & 2 I didn't want to see anything tempting around the house, and couldn't cook anything for my boyfriend. But now I am able to even make him a home made pizza without having a bad time. You get used to it and you start missing more the healthy stuff that is banned than junk food. At least in my case.

HillyK · 01/08/2014 12:31

Hi all, just started yesterday at Glasgow clinic. Very impressed with them. Loving this thread. Going to Commonwealth Games tonight and about to make choc drop thingies to take with me :-)
Nearly 4 stone to lose but am on a mission!

HillyK · 02/08/2014 12:45

Day 3 and feeling not that great. A bit like a horrible hangover... headache, tummy a bit upset, nausea, lethargic... The thought of anything sweet and particularly chocolatey is making me heave!
Days 3/4 of any diet is always the worst so am hoping this is only short term.
Chocolate 'buns' I made yesterday were more like chocolate Yorkshire puddings... ok in a crisis but couldn't live on them. Made 2 small garlic and herb flat breads with the pizza base that weren't bad at all. Used garlic salt and lots of fresh sea salt on top. Going to make them with fresh basil today and again plenty of sea salt.
Blood pressure 103/60 so am hoping it doesn't fall any further. Am sure it will go up a bit when I get back to work.
Anyone wishing to chat please shout! Smile

Pollyanna7 · 02/08/2014 14:34

Hi @HillyK, I know what you mean about the chocolatey and other sweet drinks. I'm not a chocolate or pud person, just crave crisps and cheese! So I use the sheeps mousse (fab) with celery or Baba ganoush, or even better in the aubergine lasagne. I make chips from my white turnip allowance and use the potato pie as a couscous with veg chilli or veg curry. You do feel a bit horrid at first but it's the same with any weight management proramme isn't it? The raspberry clafoutis makes decent 'buns' if you mix it with rhubarb- sweetish without being chocolatey. I find the strawberry milkshake and the coconut drink ok, with lots of ice for mid-morning or afternoon. I haven't tried the pizza base but the nan with extra garlic and coriander was passable. Good luck- keep going. I lost another 6lbs this week so feel very empowered at the mo!!! Hope it lasts! Even made the family bacon, eggs and sausage this morning and didn't feel tempted!!:) Polish that halo....Wink Wink

Brigidwasp · 02/08/2014 15:07

Hi all! This has been a bit quiet the last few days, hope everyone is doing great!

@HillyK, the first week or two are the hardest ones. Hang in there and you'll see it's going to bet much better. Your body is probably missing the sugar if you were used to it. If you still feel so rough after a few days let them know in your clinic as maybe you will need to adjust your supplements. I agree about the chocolate buns, it's not great that one is it.

@Pollyanna7 it's funny how different we all are, how some of us will love some sachets and some others will totally hate them. I'm also a cheese and crisps type of person, and I find the sheeps mouse unedible, along with the coconut drink and strawberry shake. Hat to swap them because I couldn't have them at all. Well done with the weight loss :)

I'm stuck again with my weight loss, probably again it's that time of the month.. so annoying. But at least now I know it will be back to normal in a few days.

Chrissypresent · 03/08/2014 10:23

Hi, my first time on here. I have read many comments which confirms how very different we all are. I started the Alizonne on Monday 28th July and on Thursday 31st July after my first weigh-in I had lost 6 lbs in 4 days, whoop whoop! I am 53 with 3 + stones to lose. My metabolic rate is 1740, which I was pleased about. I attend the Wilmslow clinic and I have to say, so far, very positive, no headaches, nausea, just feeling great! I am type 2 diabetic and every day my readings have reduced. The doctor advises that I reduce my medication from 2 metformin twice a day to 1 twice a day, when my levels are within the average levels. Love the chocolate, caramel, vanilla (I make it quite thick and have the stewed rhubarb with powdered canderel at the bottom yum yum). Thank you for suggestions with recipes, I had the spicy veg. curry last night with cauliflower rice with plenty of spice, whilst the rest of my family had their normal Saturday night Indian take away. By the way, the Quinton issue...I empty mine into a shot glass and imagine it is vodka, works for me! Staying positive and hope you are all successful in your individual journeys.

HillyK · 03/08/2014 13:29

Hi all and thanks @Pollyanna7 and @Brigidwasp for getting back to me. Hugely appreciated.
Feeling a little better today but still have nausea and some stomach cramps :-(
I started my diet the day after coming back from a 6* all inclusive cruise so it's no wonder I feel like I've been hit by a sledge hammer Shock I was determined not to go mad so was quite chuffed when I found out I'd only gained a kilo or so. Had a sneaky weigh this morning and back to where I was at my consultation Smile
Think I've mastered the omelettes with, from allowance, red pepper and mushroom and lots of green spring onion. The hot chocolate makes me heave... like you Pollyanna7 I'm just not a chocolate or pud person but would kill you for a glass of Chablis and some great cheese! Grin Going to make a wee aubergine curry this afternoon and will have it with grated cauliflower. Can't wait!
Am finding the vitamin K the worst so need a big glass of water at hand afterwards. The ampoule of sea water is just like swimming in the sea and taking a gulp by mistake! I've added it to soups and omelettes which makes taking it dead easy.
Am finding my 1st pack of the day hard as I'm just not up for eating that early in the morning. After that I'm fine.
Please tell me your favourite 'recipes'... anyone out there... I think the recipe book I was given could do with some serious updating as it looks like it was produced on 2010!!
Many thanks again and will keep you all posted. xx

HillyK · 03/08/2014 14:21

Forgot to ask... I've read in my folder I can use freshly squeezed lemon juice... does anyone know if there is a limit? I've been squeezing 2 small lemons and adding it to my 3 litres of water.

sandyxblog · 03/08/2014 18:38

For those of you struggling with quinton vials, you do realise you don't have to drink them neat? I've never tasted one because from day one i've mixed it into one of my sachets. You can add them to any sachet that you have to make it and it becomes completely tasteless and doesn't affect the texture or consistency of your sachet. I was given this tip by my clinic before I started hence why I don't know what they taste like as I've always done it this way!

Glad to see there's so many new people on Alizonne!

Had my weigh in today - seven weeks down and a total of 33lbs lost!! (lost another four in the last seven days). I've hit a phase where I'm becoming really unimaginative with my sachets. Pretty much living off the same two sachets lol! Need to snap out of this!!

Hope you are all well,

Sandy x

sandyxblog · 03/08/2014 18:40

@HillyK - As far as I'm aware, there's no limit on lemon. The cookbook just says 'lemon slices are ok to add to water' for flavour.

Munchkinbug · 03/08/2014 22:23

Hello everyone, just found this thread. Been doing AZ for 5 weeks now. Lost 9.6kg so far, which I'm quite happy with. I've got a LONG way to go. Need to lose 33kg in total. I've been tested to the limit so far...BBQs, burgers, doughnuts, birthday cakes, and now my daughter's nursery have asked me to make cupcakes for the summer fun day!!! Aaarrrggghhh. But I've done well, and have resisted everything so far. I'm a very fussy eater, and there aren't many sachets I like, but it's not forever! Hope you're all well :)

Pollyanna7 · 03/08/2014 22:26

Ooops, hope there is no limit on lemons, I slice 4/5 and put them in a huge jug of boiling water. Cool it, leave it in the fridge then put a third in a glass with ice cubes and top up with sparkling water. At least it feels like a fruity drink! Having also said I'm not a chocolate fan, I made the 'bounty' dessert as I do like bountys (love coconut). It really is lovely.
Well done @sandyxblog - 33lbs-brilliant- if you need to stick to 2 fave sachets what's wrong with that? You'll probably have 2 new faves soon.Smile
Also well done @Hillyk- 6* cruise? Wow- shall we all treat ourselves to another one when we've reached target? Btw, I tried the chilli cheese fritters tonight from the recipe book and they were tasty. Next time I'll just use potato pie and veg as I felt it wasted my precious sheep's cheese. That's perfect as a sauce, with aubergines and courgettes.
Oh and @chrissypresent... I applaud you. The fact that you can imagine that disgusting fizzy tablet as a shot is great- wish I could. I dissolve it in my lemon drink now which makes it slightly more palatable.
Managed to cycle 4 miles today so I'm beginning to feel the real benefits of the weight loss and just feeling SO much better about myself.Bike Smile

HillyK · 04/08/2014 12:14

Me again... day 5. Feeling a lot brighter, less nausea and just the odd tummy cramp. My son says I have classic withdrawal symptoms which is really making me think about what I've been shoveling into my body.
@Pollyanna7... will take your advice and get the sachets to make the bounty type dessert and the fritters. Thank you!
To everyone out there, being able to talk to others on the plan is a great support and motivator. Not sure I could do this on my own at the moment but I know it will get better and I cannot wait to get into my size 12's again! Smile
I made a fab aubergine curry last night if anyone would like the recipe. I love hot food and this was bursting with flavour. Makes 2 huge portions so looking forward to dins tonight.
Well done to everyone on the plan and a sincere thanks for being there. xx

Brigidwasp · 04/08/2014 14:51

@HillyK Glad to know you're feeling better! Yes this diet makes you realise how badly we've been treating our body and also teaches you portion control. I think if I could go back to eating normal straight away, I would eat much healthier now.
Let us know what you think about the bounty dessert, I had high expectations for that one but I couldn't even eat half of it. I think because I found the coconut flavour and texture to be too fake and plastic-like.

@Sandyxblog I'm getting tired of most of the sachets now, I believe I will be just sticking to 2 or 3 of them too, probably mushroom soup most of the time and nuggets or bacon/cheese pancake 3x week. Glad I'm going to hit Phase 2 soon!! 33lbs is awesome! I think we started more or less at the same time and I've lost 23lbs. I believe the speed also varies depending on the total you need to lose, but I'm pretty happy with my weight loss too :) I'm

Also glad to see so many new people in the forum. Hope your weight loss journey goes as planned! : )

jafojo · 06/08/2014 15:16

Hello everyone, sorry I have been off for a while due to work. I had my treatment today after a 3 week layoff, I am now down to 100kg and in phase 3, I have been on phase 2 for 4 weeks and lost an average of 1kg/week.

In total I have lost 30kg (66lbs) and I like the way I look and feel at the moment and I have adjusted my target upwards from 94 to 98 as I do not want to look skinny as I am tall. so I am now allowed breakfast (1 slice of bread and lean meat). it has been a nice long journey from the 23rd of April and it has been worth every dime and time.

My suit size has dropped from 52R to 42R, shirt from 20 to 16, waist from 44 to 36 and my BMI from 42 to 32. it has been an astonishing transformation. I had deliberately kept myself from everyone to avoid having to answer questions, until I attended a black tie event on Saturday, as a friend said "there is no better way to announce the new you than in dinner suit and a nice bow tie". If I have learnt anything from my experience, it is the fact that where there is a will, there is a way.

Every little weight lost is a move in the right direction

I have enjoyed reading all your comments

HillyK · 06/08/2014 17:24

Hi all, had my 1st weigh-in today... @jafojo... I think you may have been in front of me! Grin Losing 66lbs is incredible! You must be chuffed to bits! Smile
My first week has been hard... headaches, nausea, dreadful stomach cramps and generally feeling like I'd been hit by a bus! However, today actually feeling quite human, if a little weak. In my 1st weigh in have lost just over 6lbs. My target for the month is about 19lbs if I remember correctly so 13lbs to go over the next 3 weeks... which is no mean feat.
Have given up anything chocolatey as it is making me heave. Just had a cappuccino from the swap box with a teaspoon of coffee added to it and quite enjoyed it. Got a chicken nugget from the swap box too and a praline thing... worth a try!
Am loving my aubergine and spinach curry and going to have a bash at an aubergine and veg chilli.
When food is so limited you really find out what your priorities are and mine seem to be savoury food full of flavour.
Have got mostly new sachets this week and going to incorporate them in 'food'. I think that's the best way forward for me as I love to cook... and eat of course! Grin Hence my presence here! Lol!
Everyone out there, keep up the great work and thank you all or being there the last 7 (very hard), days!

jafojo · 07/08/2014 12:09

Hi Hilly, I think you may have been the one at the reception when I was leaving Smile, It is an experience and am sure you will enjoy it, I had the Alizonne chocolate bar yesterday and it was heavenly, I had to take so many little bites hoping the feeling will last longer (reminds me of school days), had a slice of toast and yogurt this morning and was full, that wont have happened in my former life, I guess the stomach has shrunk. I have to realise my body has changed and adjust my expectations accordingly, I had 2 sticks of carrot which normally wont mean anything but I had stomach pains for over 2 hours, so I have learnt my lessons the hard way.

Brigidwasp · 07/08/2014 17:12

@jafojo hi there, glad to know you're doing so well! already in Phase 3!!! (envyyyy :P) I just can NOT wait for phase 2, let alone phase 3 :) I believe I have just a couple weeks left for phase 2 now. I seriously miss eating some normal food, just the tuna salad will do!! How small are the chicken and steak portions in Phase 2?
Oh I also wanted to ask, are you allowed the "yellow" sachets without restriction on phase 3? or it's still only 3 x day?
It's great you feel full sooner now that you're allowed to eat more normal food! I guess it's all about new habits now. Is carrot not allowed? how bizarre that it gave you such a bad stomach pain!

Something really strange happened yesterday afternoon. I suddenly couldn't drink my favourite sachet "mushroom soup" I didn't like it at all! it suddenly tasted really bad! I thought it must have been that particular sachet that maybe was bad, and later in the evening I had another one and same thing happened. Today I tried again and even worse, like I can't even stand the smell now. I just visited the clinic to swap a full box I had and got the chicken curry soup. I told them what happened and they said they heard that happened to many people, with this diet the taste buds suddenly change and you don't like something any more. Has anyone else experienced this?

Brigidwasp · 07/08/2014 17:13

correction - (3 x week)

HillyK · 07/08/2014 18:54

Yep! That was me! Smile
Glad you're loving your chocoate bars jafojo. I can remember nibbling away at a fudge when I was little hoping it would never end... sounds like the same thing! You've done amazingly well and you still sound very positive and upbeat which is a fantastic place to be. Keep up the good work.
Tried my swap box chicken nuggets last night...mmmmm... don't think I'll be ordering them! Tried the vanilla dessert today but made it into a drink with 350ml water. Loving it in a pint glass with ice. It's like drinking Ambrosia custard Smile
Thankfully feeling so much better every day now and had a sneaky jump on the scales... just over 7lbs in a week. Chuffed to bits.
Keep up the good work everyone!

Thingirlinfatbody · 07/08/2014 19:35

Sorry it been a while but so glad to hear everyone is doing so well. So 19 days in and I've lost 14.5lb. Absolutely amazed. Even went out with friends the other evening but stuck to grilled chicken and salad. Just another 4 stone to go!

Pollyanna7 · 07/08/2014 21:49

Oh @Brigidwasp, you and I seem to be like the little weathermen who go in and out of the house!! In other words we complement each other, what you like , I don't and vice versa!! I had exactly the same reaction with the chicken curry soup- find it hard to stomach now, so I got mushroom instead!!Grin. Had my third weigh in today,lost 3.7 lbs (yes the numbers after the point do countWink, so thats 19.7lbs in 3 weeks so I am more than delighted and have 1 stone 6lbs to go to phase 2. I am craving a piece of thick fish which just falls into layers. My current obsession is still aubergine lasagne and choc and coconut pud. I made mushroom pakoras the other evening and they were filling and quite 'tasty'. I swapped a sachet today for a chicken nuggets, @Hillyk! Something I would normally never eat but you have to keep searching for the most satisfying sachet don't you- I'll try it tmrw, but your post has made me wary. Well done with the 7lbs btw, I'll bet that has spurred you on- that's all you need isn't it, just to know that it works for you, not just everyone else. Smile. Well done too @thingirlinafatbody- did you have real chicken on your night out?? @jafojo, brilliant, phase 3! I am also curious to know what weight of real protein you can have- will my chunk of fish be worth the wait (or worth the weight?Wink). Keep going everyone, this forum is a big help to all of us I think. PS- how does everyone cope now the rhubarb season is passing by- I have it everyday- anyone found frozen rhubarb in any supermarkets?

Brigidwasp · 07/08/2014 23:28

@Pollyanna that's funny! :D
About the chicken nuggets, I find them really nice if you add plenty of mild curry powder to the mix, and toast them a bit in the oven.

I cooked a huge amount of rhubarb and froze it in individual portions, and that should last me a while. I have it every other day or so.

Brigidwasp · 08/08/2014 14:27

2,4 kg to reach Phase 2. yayyy!!!

HillyK · 08/08/2014 18:06

Pollyanna... fresh rhubarb freezes well. Just cut it up into big chunks, put in a freezer bag and that's it. You can then cook it from frozen without adding water Smile
Loving my vanilla dessert as a drink and amazing with rhubarb when made up thickly. Tastes just like Ambrosia!
Tried another swap box sachet... praline/hazelnut thing... ooft! Awful!
It's incredible how some people's idea of hell with these sachets are other people's heaven. When I took my hot chocolate back the clinic was amazed as it's their most popular pack... eugh! Grin
Bizzarely and feeling really hungry today so am really looking forward to dins.
As ever, keep up the amazing work folks and thanks for being there!

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