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Welcome to thread 10 of the Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin weight loss system.

The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded support system are:

1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONSCIOUSLY
4. STOP eating when you are satisfied and full

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches. So forget diets; they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. This is a new way of living for your brand new life!!

The Paul McKenna system really works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here are the book choices on AMAZON which is all you need to get started! they aren't compulsory, but they do help! it's something to refer to and listening to the cd's can really focus you.

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

You don't have to buy the book and CD, but we have found that they do help and somehow they keep you on track, so it would probably be a good investment and will cost you far less than a couple of trips to WW or SW meetings, so do consider having them in your life.

Please feel free to join us, whether it's 10lbs or 10 stones you want to lose.
We are friendly, supportive and successful, but we're not hungry OH NO we're not!!! so come on in and start living your new life today!

biscuits that's exactly what Paul describes - oh you're going to love the book! - and get suggests getting into the habit initially of just leaving one mouthful on the plate! Then as you get used to Pauling you find it easier to stop. On Thursday I literally left half my dinner and had the other half for lunch yesterday. Never would have done that in the past!

We realised too that there was no point in forcing DS. If he's hungry and needs the calories, he eats loads. If he's not, he doesn't eat much. He will happily ditch chocolate cake halfway through because he's 'full'. He's verging on underweight for his height but the last thing I want to do is force feed him. He's healthy and it'll all work out I'm sure.

DD got my habits. Not sure how, but she's been a pig from the word go! DS o was baby led weaned 100% as he refused to be spoon fed. Maybe it's true that being in control never 'broke' his hunger mechanisms?

Anyhow, I do think it's important that we teach our kids good habits. I'm very concious not to obsess about my food and weight to them too.

That's why I'm trying to get my eating issues under control. As much as I loved my DMum, I definitely got bad habits from her. I remember her weight yo-yoing all her life even though she never got much above 12 stone. She was also paranoid about me getting fat ha and put me on diets from the age of 9. No wonder my metabolism was out of whack! I know she meant well but I don't want my hopefully future kids to be the same!

Absolutely agree with what everyone's sayingabout kids and food - I think with most kids we don't need to "teach" them anything, just try not to plant our issues on them and over-ride their natural instincts, which for most children are to eat to appetite.

My mother was just like yours Havealittlefaith - always very publicly "watching her weight" or "being good" (meaning denying herself things) and being very martyred about it, praising "good eaters", bribing and punishing to achieve cleared plates, coming out with things like "There now I knew you could finish it, now you can have some custard and chocolate drops, it'll slide nicely around the edges" My younger sister was a "fussy eater" and so meal times revolved around persuading her to eat as much as possible, whilst I was praised for being a "Good eater" - till I hit puberty and suddenly a smaller plate was put in front of me and my mother was always trying to make me "Go halves" with her in order to "be good" on things she had previously encouraged me to gobble down whole and have another of! When my previously skinny sister got a little chubby at about 15 she started the same treatment on her and my sister started refusing to go out anywhere but school, not wanting to meet people "until I am thin"... I do blame her for the fact she has an overweight daughter (me) and a recovering anorexic daughter (the previously fussy sister) and our youngest sister was boarderline bulimic in her teens and early 20s... I know she didn't mean harm, but I think her self absorbed relationship with food rubbed off in an incredibly unhealthy way - I tried to discuss it with her once and she said "Oh I know, we didn't know we were doing wrong back then" - which I am sure is true BUT I could seriously thump her now when she still jumps in to praise my kids for being "good eaters" or to try to tempt them to eat more when I have already said they can leave the table, or discusses which of my kids are "like you" and "will have to watch what they eat" and which "will never be fat" - in her opinion, and why on earth does she think the children have to be burdened with even thinking about such things at 6, 4 and 1?!!

Oh rant there, sorry - they have a lot to answer for, the mothers of the 60s, 70s and 80s, in terms of the attitude of today's adults to food! Perhaps it is because they raised the first generation of children for whom there was always too much, rather than too little, food available (in all but the poorest of families) and because it was a new situation they had no other approach than to encourage to stuff it all in, then tell us to diet if we put on a few pounds of puppy fat ?? All we can try and do is set a better example by not obsessing in front of our children about our food issues, and not implant our bad habits on them!

Hear hear Englishwoman

My own Mum was a 'you'll sit at the table until it's all gone' Mum too :( and we were very over fed children my Brother and I...We had school dinners and afters and nearly always had seconds and thirds and when we went home, we had a fully cooked huge meal too. We weren't fat kids, but Mum was up and down after giving up smoking and my Dad was a very skinny man his entire life, but ate very well.

When I returned to work, Ds was still a tiny baby and from the off my Mum and Dad 'encouraged' him to eat by racing him and the 'just 4 more mouthful's' too and now of course, Ds eats ridiculously large amounts, though he is very slim and extremely tall; I have never forced him to eat everything personally, but he was in Mum and Dads care whilst I was working, so.... With Dd, I have been at home with her and I let her eat as she wants to really. I do notice the difference when she's about to have a growth spurt as she doesn't stop eating and asking for something to eat, but she's very tall and slim too.

Kinky, I don't know anything about these gastric band hypno thingamies, but is it anything like this one that's on Groupon today?

My mum is a 'clean your plate' devotee too. I can remember her sitting with me at the dining table for what seemed like hours while I cried and forced down food I didn't want. Horrid when I think about it
DS1 is a natural Pauler, DS2 possibly less so.

Thanks for link Biscuits. I will have a read.

Another clean plate mother here! I am with parents this weekend, and my Mum still is a total feeder. I have the theory that they showed love with food, as toys were more expensive. She still has (I kid you not) a fridge full of chocolate and cupboards of biscuits and crisps. She offers me things every couple of hours (as I'm typing this, she just has again ). My Mum has never been particularly overweight and has never dieted. It's my Dad who has struggled with his. I think I've picked up his yo-yo habits.

I am lucky that DD is apserger's, so couldn't give a toss about what other people do, so she hasn't picked up my horrible, messed-up relationship with food. And I let DS eat what he likes at meals. Neither of them ever have to eat it all up, and I let them have treat foods too as DH wasn't allowed things like chocolate as a child, so as soon as he left home he would binge on it (although, he is tall and skinny with a fabulous metabolism, so always got away with it). I would like them not to think about food. If I acheive this, I will be delighted!!

kinky the hypno band app I mentioned up thread is on special offer at the moment at £4.99! And no I don't work for them!

Thnk I fancy the hypnoband app myself! someone tell me about it! arfur where can I get it for 4.99 please?

It's an apple app but you can also get the cd/mp3 download from eBay if you don't have apple. It's called (easyloss) virtual gastric band hypnosis, by james holmes from Hampshire hypnotherapy. They have a Facebook support group which is great and the hypnotherapists answer any questions on there that you may have. I am finding it very good ATM, it's not dissimilar to pm just IMO slightly better but as I said earlier I haven't got to the surgery bit yet

I don't have any iphone/ipads, but could download elsewhere. I can't find it on amazon or ebay - do you have a link? Thanks for this arfur .

Am rubbish at links esp on phone, have to drop dd at school but when I get back will fire up proper pooter and have a go or you can look at virtual gastric hypno band thread in big/slim etc thread on here

Try these: link to eBay search
amazon mp3 downloads

I'm in a bit of a tail spin. I've just heard my friend's baby was still born. My heart breaks for her :(

another attempt at posting just hope that MN doesn't go down this time.

Interesting to see what people are saying about mums making children eat their food it has made me look at the way I encourage eating with my children. Though Ive never said they have to eat it all, but when my DD1 only has 1 fork and says she is full is frustrating. I would never force anyone to diet though, if any of my children become overweight (so far none of them are) I wouldn't do anything different, but would support them if they decided they wanted to do anything about it.

Interested in that app too, will have a quick look for it now, thanks arfur

Im still weighing myself too much, but I am under 12 stone now (I was 12 stone 3 I think, might have been 4 though) not by much (11st 12), but still under. Just hope it stays or even gets lower and gets to 11st 7 or even dare I dream under 11st

Oh no! Have, that is terrible for her. How sad .

crossed posts there faith so sad. Ive done nothing but cherrish my children all weekend with the Aillidh updates and hearing this just makes me want to snuggle them even more. So sorry to hear that. Certainly puts a lot of other things into perspective.

Just been googling the hynogastric thing and reading reviews. Paul works for me slowly, but I am wondering if its worth giving this one a go instead, though feel a bit disloyal to Paul if I did, though its only a fiver so how can it hurt. I listen to Paul 2/3 times a week will the other one work if I listen to it the same? I dont have the time to find for 40 mins everyday. (3 children happens to do that to you)

www.easyloss.co.uk is the company's website I cannot do links (have tried) but there are lots of links on the other thread. You do have to commit to listening to this everyday for 6 weeks (ish) but its 20 mins (first session) 25 mins (second session) and I think 30 ish for the last one. I listen at bedtime and cant help wondering if I did PM religiously everyday it would be more effective but as I have said I do find her easier to listen to and I feel better about the encouragement to pick the right foods than PMs eat whatever you like altho nothing is banned still. Think I might sound like a stuck record so will clear off!

Yes we have been fussing over DNephew this afternoon - come round to watch the tennis. She was near her due date too so all ready at home :( I just can't believe it.

Also Im with you FB - I think mumsnet is definitely wearing a virtual black armband today and the flag is flying at half-mast

And even tho Ive 'defected' to this new hypno thing - Im still here as I like the people

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/big_slim_whatever_weight_loss_club/1462504-Virtual-Gastric-Band-Hypnosis-App (link to 'other' thread)

Good luck to everyone. Happy Sunday!

Hello all, had a busy weekend so far so not been on here much.

As she said further back, Alibaba and I met for coffee on Friday. She is lovely and her DS2 is just gorgeous. Barely a grumble out of him despite being stuck with us chatting for an hour. The amazing thing was that we hardly talked about you lot at all! We clearly need to meet up again.

On the subject of other hypnosis methods, the other big hypno thing that came out just after PMcK was the Marisa Peer book which also had a CD. I quite liked her because she had been overweight herself and knew what it was like whereas I don't think PMcK ever has..

The interesting things that sticks in my mind from her approach is that she 'bans' the words 'lost' or 'losing' because they only have negative connotations in other situations - there is an awful lot of loss around here today and none of it good - sorry to hear about your friend Faith Nobody really wants to lose anything which can have a subconscious effect on attempts to reduce weight apparently. Makes sense to me. Unfortunately, her voice was a bit 'hypnotisty' too and I didn't like her CD either.

I think I don't like knowing I am being manipulated and having my mind messed with even if it is really a good thing!

However, I shall have a look at arfur's links since it is Hampshire Hypnotists and I'm in Hampshire (obviously that is totally irrelevant if it is all on-line but still ).

Faith - hope you are OK. It is a very difficult and very sad situation. Same thing happened to a friend of mine a few years ago, and, just as I was about to announce my pregnancy with DS2 my cousin and his wife. That was 9 years ago and they don't seem to have tried again and have no children.