Thread 10 already for the Paul McKenna's Paulettes, losing lbs with No Pain! No Pain!! and Definitely No Calories, No Syns, No Humiliation. Come and Join In To Lose Weight With Supportive Friends!

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Welcome to thread 10 of the Paul McKenna's I Can Make You Thin weight loss system.

The Golden Rules that will aid you on your journey with our like minded support system are:

1. Eat what you WANT
2. Eat when you are HUNGRY
3. Eat CONSCIOUSLY
4. STOP eating when you are satisfied and full

This weight loss system is about re-educating your body; learning to listen to it and in doing so losing weight and inches. So forget diets; they may work for a while, but they aren't permanent solutions. This is a new way of living for your brand new life!!

The Paul McKenna system really works and is easy to maintain.

I've C&P'd our previous threads links as they are helpful.

Here are the book choices on AMAZON which is all you need to get started! they aren't compulsory, but they do help! it's something to refer to and listening to the cd's can really focus you.

This is the tapping technique EXPLAINED - this can be useful to combat cravings.

You don't have to buy the book and CD, but we have found that they do help and somehow they keep you on track, so it would probably be a good investment and will cost you far less than a couple of trips to WW or SW meetings, so do consider having them in your life.

Please feel free to join us, whether it's 10lbs or 10 stones you want to lose.
We are friendly, supportive and successful, but we're not hungry OH NO we're not!!! so come on in and start living your new life today!

I only have DH and the kids. I think he has had enough tbh. Work is really stressful for him at the moment and he doesn't have time to listen to me moan. Not a criticism of him, he is amazing.

I think sometimes with DHs it is more that they get frustrated that there is nothing practical they can do to "fix" the problem.

My DH is the same as yours - fabulous, works hard, but when I would be crying my eyes out for no reason or keeping him up with yet another panic attack he would get angry. I thought at first he was angry at me but gradually got to realise that he was angry that he was helpless to help IYSWIM. He just didn't seem to understand that a hug and some gentle words or a shoulder to cry on DID help although it did not fix the problem.

I think DH gets fed up that he can't fix me too.

Have you tried taking magnesium supplements Fab? I found I had awful anxiety symptoms with PMS and a combo of counselling - to look at anxiety management - and magnesium have helped massively. Could you ask your GP for counselling?

I haven't but I will! I have had counselling but find the counsellors haven't ever been able to get to the route of my problems.

Just seen a trailer for Loose Women and they are asking if it is ever okay to blame your bad moods on your hormones.

Hello everyone!

I've just ordered the book - I have tried WW and SW in the past, WW worked short term (8 years ago for my wedding), SW didn't but that was because I didn't stick to it really.

I like the idea of having 4 "golden rules" instead of a diet plan and recording points/ making choices from specific lists and having to look things up.

Erm - I don't know what I weigh though as my toddler broke our scales a few months ago (not due to giant weight :o due to industriously pulling the top surface off while I was in the shower...). I am even kidding myself when I claim to be a UK size 18 now though - probably more a 20. I am 5 ft 6.

I am mostly a SAHM to 3 young children (work a couple of short evenings), and the youngest is a terrible sleeper, up 3 or 4 times most days and starts the day at 5am, after which he can't be re-settle even in my bed with me. I do all the night waking and 6 of the early mornings each week. I already know that I eat to cope with sleep deprivation (as well as when I'm fed up - people say "oh you eat when you're bored" but I know that is not accurate - it's when I'm sleep deprived and low level stressed, not big intense stress just the low level stuff everyone has from time to time. I kind of resent the "you eat when you're bored, get a hobby" type comments as I'm not bored IMO! I lost a bit of weight with the early BFing, but kept it up for 13 months and ended up putting most of it back on again, due to allowing myself to replace sleep with food// use food as my pick-me-up.

The check out lady in our local small supermarket (who I sort of "know" from 5 years shopping there) confidently congratulated me on expecting another baby today - I'm not pregnant, just a fat apple shape! I am quite thick skinned and laughed it off but it's a bit of a reality check!

Joined a gym with child care today, as having a 14 month old who doesn't like to be in the buggy unless he is ready to fall asleep, and only cat-naps is too much of an excuse to sit on my bum and eat chocolate :o

Is this going to work? I feel like I'm ready to turn a corner and make some changes but despite the reviews I can't help a bit of scepticism about the book, given PM claims he can make us not only thin but rich etc (in other books)... I hope it all becomes clear when I get the book!

Looking forward to getting to know you all - have only read the first post of the thread and the last couple of pages - Fab hope things improve for you, could you try a different GP? My parents used to be doctors and I have heard them talk very unsympathetically about patients who came to them with anything other than a "proper illness" to each other - they are not all good nor do they all have the right line on every problem, but if you ask for a different GP at the same practice next time you might find somebody more useful!

Hello EnglishWoman

I can relate to an awful lot of what you say . I probably do eat when I'm bored sometimes but more often it's that low level stress as you say. For example if I'm having a tiring / stressful day with ds1 I reach straight for the chocolate for a pick me up. And with a 4 mth old I've had a lot of broken nights recently so again the tiredness thing applies - sugar = quick pick me up. You have my sympathy if you've one who is still up a lot in the night - I take my hat off to you for that.

Anyway, I don't have any success or tips to share but just wanted to say hi .

Oh, who was it who said about the wrong image when you look in the mirror - yes yes yes! I thought I was big when I was a size 12 - I'm sure I still see the same reflection. It's when I see a picture (and there's a lot of them about with a new baby) that I get a (nasty) reality check .

I don't want to be fat in all the pictures we get of our gorgeous boys

Will read through this properly in a moment.

One of the mums at clinic has had a hypno gastric band done. She's lost 2.5st and still going strong, even though her last session was a few months ago.

I am now very, very tempted to try this. Just, costs £250. Anyone had any experience? The support bits sound very similar to PMK, but they actually make your brain believe you have a band. My friend can't touch any of the foods that she used to like either. I know that you can train yourself with aversion therapy through PMK (human hair chips, anyone?!) but I wonder if it would work better to actually be hypnotised by another person, iyswim?

On a shittier note, DDs counts still very low but with no reason. They have agreed to check her bone marrow next week if they are still low. They don't normally do this until the end. They will be checking for relapse. Don't want to dwell on that for now though. We'll see what her bloods are doing next week.

Oh kinky I hope and pray its better news tomorrow. I know done one who has benefitted from hypnotherapy - she has a lot of issues - but here it's £40 per session She is very overweight - she needs to lose me so 13 stone to be in a healthy weight range. She's not really started to tackle her weight as yet. I don't know - I guess too skeptical for hypontherapy but lots of people report it working. I think it's a lot of money but it's probably less than I spent at WW and I'm still fat!

Welcome to theenglishwoman...what should we call you? I think yes - if you want this to work, it will. It's a journey, it's not slim fast a quick fix but it will gradually change your attitude. I've been Pauling six months and although I haven't lost much weight - I lost a stone but gained it back when I was really ill so am about 4lb lighter - I feel so much better about myself and about food. I luff the book actually. It's really no nonsense but quite eye opening. I'd been brain washed afte years of dieting and now I see sense!

Kinky, I know we've not 'met' but will be keeping everything crossed for better news next week x

Keeping fingers crossed for you kinky.

Hello newbies - so many foodie names - has anyone noticed? Doritos, biscuits, choc. At least pp's fruit name is reasonable healthy.

In response to English's question about whether this is going to work, PMK doesn't claim 100% success - I can remember the actual figure but it was around 80%. Some of us went to a seminar run by him following a webchat on MN, and I also remember him saying that he didn't really want to call the programme "I Can Make You Thin" but that was more of a decision from the marketing people. "I can improve your relationship with food and hopefully you'll lose a bit of weight and actually keep it of" isn't quite as snappy.

kinkydorito another one here who has not met you but wishing you all the best.

Ha ha mardy my name not actually chocolate related. A chocobo is a large yellow bird from a computer game series. Although now I am wondering what a chocobo would taste like. Probably chicken :)

Hi ladies and welcome newbies :) You are indeed in the right place to retrain your body (and mind) and eat to suit your stomach, not your head! your new way of eating and life starts here and I can't see why or how you'd regret it :)

I am sorry that you feel down again fab come and have a grumble on the other thread :)

Kinky try to stay positive.x

Going to try to sleep now, will attempt a longer post tomorrow (today!!!). Night all.x

Hello girls. I like the idea of staying positive. Thank you for your great support :)

I said a while back - we all have issues outside of food but it's like Pauling is the one thing we have in common. This is such a great support network. We try to focus on food issues here but have a 'moan and groan' thread here

I'm doing ok with food. Bringing fruit to snack on at work which hits the sweet spot but makes me feel positive too! Not weighed myself in a while. Will leave it til next week I think. Found GF instant porridge oats in Waitrose I'm not posh, I was returning the carpet cleaner to the dry cleaners in store and bought a bit of shopping had some this morning. It's really nice!

Pah! I wrote a post yesterday evening to Kinky and it isn't here.

Kinky - I hope your DD had a good night and the blood counts start improving.

Who was it who said yesterday about low level stress being a trigger to emotional eating - Biscuitsandtea I think. Yes that is exactly it! In a high stress situation I don't/can't eat. I wouldn't be here if I was properly stressed out because my appetite goes and I can't eat at all. If I were Kinky, I would probably be very skinny. The problem for me is the low level day to day stuff that we deal with relatively easily as part of life and which is probably never going to go away. Probably it shouldn't because we need a bit of stress to perform but I need to handle it in a way that doesn't involve eating!

I am glad somebody articulated that because I often think, when I or somebody is going through something traumatic, 'how can anybody eat at a time like this?' but we are all different and of course there are different types of stress. Seems obvious now somebody mentions it!

Sorry, that didn't sound right.

Just to be clear, I don't think it is wrong/bad/weak to eat when under severe stress, just that I don't and I was really commenting that it has taken me a while to realise that you can have 2 types of stress rather than just saying some people have a lot of stress and others don't. Kinky, if the worst thing you do when under the sort of pressure you are under is eat badly you are doing really well. I would be a gibbering useless mess who was no good to anybody including my child. You seem so strong and supportive and I admire you for your ability to cope with a horrible situation.

Still not explained very well.

BBB

I get what you mean BBB. I'm the same. Possibly because unhealthy food was a 'treat' when I was younger. In times of severe stress your appetite often disappears but if you comfort eat, it gets worse. Especially if it's low level. I find the only way to curb low level stress is to go running. I miss running :( grr I want my op already! But anyway, yes, running helps me clear my head and stops me comfort eating. Cleaning has bedn my cardio the last two weeks, doing a room a night. My house looks beautiful! aside from the two rooms that still need unpacking!

Oh also when severely stressed its harder to make the effort to cook from scratch - junk food is more accessible and it's often easier to snack rather than sit down for a proper meal which is also challenging to weight loss.

Hello everyone :) Welcome to everyone who has just started out Pauling. It really is a brilliant way of eating, it has completely transformed my relationship with food - and therefore my life. I've still got more weight to lose, but for the first time I feel like that is possible rather than a hopeless dream that can only be achieved through misery and privation!

I am the same - sudden shock = don't eat. Low level, or background stress = comfort eating. When I had PND after DS1, I ate and ate and ate and ate and ate.

I have really got into the exercise the last couple of weeks, and it is really paying off. No movement on the scales whatsoever, but clothes are fitting better and I feel amazing.
Hope everyone is having a good Pauling day - I am off out in a few minutes to meet BBB for coffee, and I am planning to have cake so I've had a very small lunch and am still quite hungry!!

Mardy that is an interesting insight - makes me less sceptical to think the book title wasn't PM's choice and that it is all about making your re-evaluate your relationship with food.

Kinky hope you get some good news about your daughter :(

I cycled to Kindergarten with my middle one this morning, with the youngest in the trailer - 5km (3 miles) each way as we take the longer but flatter route! Then when I got home (sweaty as it is 30 degrees plus where we live atm) and got the little one out of the trailer went and climbed into the buggy and shouted "Muma! go! Go!" pointing back out to the road, so I thought why not and took him straight out for a walk hoping he'd fall asleep, but he didn't then just had time to quickly tidy the kitchen from breakfast before I went to the gym I joined yesterday for a tummy-leg-bum class I had made the mistake of telling DH ahead of time I was going to go to, so knew he would laugh and say I was giving up on the gym before even starting if I didn't go! I feel like I have done the fat-lady's triathlon this morning :o Won't be doing all 3 in a row again for a while.

Not really sure how to work the food side of the equation as haven't got the book yet - unfortunately the exercise made me ravenous! but have not tucked into anything particularly unhealthy yet today so hopefully done no harm... Friday nights are dangerous though, DH likes to settle down on the sofa and watch a film or something together with some beers and snacks, not joining in takes a huge amount of willpower, which I often don't have especially if bedtime has taken ages! We'll see how it goes!

kinky if you really are considering the hypno gastric band check out this thread first www.mumsnet.com/Talk/big_slim_whatever_weight_loss_club/1462504-Virtual-Gastric-Band-Hypnosis-App
Its a lot cheaper than £250! I will confess to defecting to this hypno system (please dont flog me). I have been doing it for the last 3 weeks and have lost about 5lbs already. (Have also been taking food supplement a la pp's blood type diet so it could be helping too) It is very similar to pauling with a couple of differences the biggest one being you are 'told' to choose healthy foods and to reject unhealthy stuff which does work better for me than pm (so far) (within reason nothing is banned still). I find the ladys voice easier to listen to than Pauls for some reason. I obviously cant comment yet on the 'actual surgery' part yet as I havent got to that stage and tbh Im not sold on the idea but time will tell. I still want to stay here with you all as I still consider myself a Paulette! Oh and the other thing this system promotes is a massive increase in your water intake which can only be a good thing - right?