Article in Mail online about James corden sister losing 9 stone using WLI -horrified about responses

[Crikeyalmighty]

Just wanted to say what is it with some mainly older women seeming to get a buzz from the ‘they will put it all back on as soon as they stop. They seem to get delight from this. It’s mainly women my age 60s and older and they seem thoroughly nasty - they can’t possibly know this as if you have changed habits totally there’s no logical reason to do so - I just get the feeling that they seem to feel superior if they are slim and don’t want others to be as it makes them less’special’ - I only did 6 weeks on mounjaro as didn’t like the heartburn/ mild nausea but have good willpower and am using the principles - been at it 9 months now, it’s slow but sure. I just really dislike this nastiness by others , I don’t care how others lose it, what works for them I say . They seem to forget in the 80s and 90swomen used tons of ‘appetite suppressants’ my gran had a cupboard full of limmits biscuits nimble bread and some stuff called ( very badly) aids.

@anotheryeargoesby @SilenceInside

Your experiences are far more in keeping with those of other people I know who are/have been on WLIs. I genuinely thought it was normal to feel how I did, and it did wonders for my glucose levels, so I hung on in there!

A work colleague's son is currently taking Mounjaro and has lost a considerable amount of weight in a very short space of time. He says his sole focus during the day is no longer centred on food, and the 'food noise' has been turned off. That said, he was a grand over-eater before the Mounjaro, and would always buy two meal deals at a drive-thru burger chain, rather than one (and often several times a week), so I guess he had a higher starting point than most!

I'm just glad it's helping people. Obesity is a huge drain on both individuals and our economy. Whatever works for people, I'm all for it.

It used to be the same with gastric bands. Some people just don't understand that because they are able to maintain their weight without help, that other people might not be able to do the same, even if they grit their teeth and try really hard.

Honestly, they're just showing their own ignorance because the science on obesity has moved on and it's much more complex than just having a bit of willpower.

There also seems to be a jealousy element with some people, which I find really weird.

I don’t disagree with you on this aspect - you do have to enormously change habits if you stop it and stick to fairly strict limits day in and day out - and I think that’s where many people struggle - I also think it’s easy to get into the habit of thinking 1,000 cals a day if on MJ is plenty/all you can eat - so probably reduces metabolism somewhat and the other obvious thing is if you way considerably less if you stop you simply don’t need nearly as many calories just to maintain as you did before starting - I’m still 12 stone 12 and 5 ft 4 and64 but can’t lose a thing if regularly eat over 1500 cals a day , at 1200 to 1400 I do, but slowly.

@2026123ABCyour experience sounds similar to Prue Leith. I read about it in the Daily Mail She could barely eat anything all day and so had no energy. It is interesting how it affects people differently.

Most people regain the weight after they lose it, no matter what method is used. But I do think jealousy plays a part in these comments for sure.

That's the big difference isn't it, the great thing is you now have a choice, it's manageable...rather than feeling like you had none.

Psychologically I find I am questioning every food choice at the moment - is this because of the WLI, have I had a "normal" amount of food today, is it ok to want another slice of bread - until now I had no idea how strong the psychological issues were...it's not just about what you put in your mouth, it's about why.

Ruth Corden has done really well, the haters just need to leave her alone!

They do - all I see is a lady looking great , reducing certain risks and probably feeling much better too - if it goes back on, well it’s easier to get stone off than 9 and she knows now what works for her

if it goes back on, well it’s easier to get stone off than 9 and she knows now what works for her

This is my ongoing perplexity with the whingeing about ‘but they’ll just regain it.’

Oh, right. I’ll stay fat for my whole life; no point in losing as I’ll regain, said no one ever.

I was recently reading a study that shows, even if you do regain it all, the time spent at a lower weight gives your body a “break” and it’s ultimately much better for your health than just staying fat. So, once again, it’s just people showing their ignorance of the topic.

That's such a good point about weighing less and therefore needing less calories. It's bloody hard work, isn't it?!

I've not seen that, off to hunt it down for my bedtime reading. Thank you!

@2026123ABC it is really relevant and I think that many don’t realise if they were used to being able to eat more ‘without’ gaining , then unless they are doing a ton of excercise then they may be looking at 1500 cals simply to maintain ,which may not be hugely over what they were eating on wli

It’s so bloody ridiculous the way the whole world is obsessed with how much other people (especially women) weigh!

Honestly get over it. People’s weight is just not the most interesting thing about them. But it seems to be ingrained in everyone’s psyche. boils my piss!

@GoatBusted im guessing it's because the medication you're on isn't bound up with your appearance and social status, being thin for women has been a status marker for decades, for older women like me, you were judged by the way you looked and being fat was a no no, I was v slim when younger, put weight on, not massive amounts, never bigger than a size 16,but always felt the women who stayed a size 10 felt superior, now v slim again due to WLI and my peers are not happy, all of them are definitely resentful, because they regard it as 'cheating', disordered eating was probably always at the root of their staying slim, it was for me, back in the eighties, black coffee all day was seen as a good way to stay slim, WLI allows for sensible eating and weight loss, a pretty marvellous thing imo, as for putting it all back on, I don't think I will, I'm mindful now of what I eat and how it affects my body, I eat completely differently to pre WLI.

Isn’t it wonderful how all these DM commentators care so deeply about a person they’ve never met, or are likely to meet, that they’re so concerned she might put the weight back on after? Such lovely people, caring so much about strangers. I wonder if they’ll do a crowdfund to make sure she can stay on them for life? It’s amazing the DM readers get such a bad reputation when they’re obviously so caring and concerned for others!

Hello Crickey,

I'm now at a 37kg loss and I'm always asksd if I took WLJ ( i did for three weeks but I had a serious underlying health issue). Had I not had such a bad reaction to them I might be dead by now! So thank you Wegovy.

Why are people so horrid about overcoming addictions? I gave up the booze four years ago and I now get the you weren't that bad (I was, that nearly killed me too).
The Daily Mail use to have great fashion and beauty but I can't bring myself to buy it. Is the editor a woman or a man?

Well done you- I’m only at 15kg down after 8 months but like you only did for a short time . I have no idea, but yes regardless of another poster calling my post snipey I do think a lot of women are horrid to other women, if it’s not weight it’s their hair or the fact their clothes aren’t quite the ‘in’ style or their decor is a bit dated etc - whilst many men have faults I must admit I know few who bitch about this kind of personal looks or home decor kind of thing , it seems more that someone is a bit tight money wise or pinches their projects or takes credit for their work or never offers to drive etc !! I asked my H and he says that in his experience that is the case -

I read the DM article and comments and there were only 43 comments, most of which were really pleased for her and positive.

I'm interested to know how you know the age and sex of commentators on the DM? How do you know the negative comments came from women over sixty?

Was this on the Facebook thread? - there were way more comments than that and you could click on their FB profiles - So in all fairness, it’s not just DM readers, as I’m not and those in my feed - and nope whijst somewhere supportive I would say large numbers just went straight to ‘it will all go straight back on again- plenty if negative stuff by men too - it’s the women though that suprised me

People are very judgemental about WLI.

I've lost over 10 stone in the last 4 years. Haven't used WLI (would have liked the option, but not medically possible for me) and in the beginning people were a) very believing that I wasn't using them and b) very supportive / happy for me that I was doing so well after a very difficult time medically.

In the last year or so not only have some people felt the need to insist that I must be using the WLI, they've been really quite sneery about the weight I've lost, as if losing 10+ stone wouldn't be an achievement regardless of how it's come about.

And I don't talk about my weight loss - it's always others bringing it up. I got fat after being raped and I finally managed to stick to my diet plan after I went to the police and faced what had happened (after many years) so it's not a story I talk about much.

I think it's quite sad, and says a lot about someone's character, that they'll be pleased if someone using WLI's puts weight back on. As if somehow it makes their point, despite the fact it makes no difference to their life (and actually if folks lose weight and get healthier we all benefit from lower costs to the NHS etc).

Some are positively salivating at the thought of others regaining weight
My mum has lost weight on Mounjaro . I fund her medication because I was concerned about her weight .
She has lost over four stone and looks amazing .
However, I have been shocked by the number of people who have told her that she would definitely regain all the weight despite the fact that she has overhauled her lifestyle by eating healthily and going to the gym
It is obviously jealousy

It’s because being fat is seen as a moral failing, as opposed to a health condition. I’m fat myself and very confident in my body (although am considering trying WLI to prevent future health problems) and I think that a lot of people aren’t comfortable with WLI showing that actually, many fat people do have genuine metabolic and appetite issues that make weight loss challenging for them - when the jabs remove this factor, they’re able to lose weight. This flies in the face of the narrative that fat people could easily lose weight if they just stopped being lazy and stupid and stuffing their faces etc. It removes any sense of virtue from the act of losing weight/being thin, and for some people that’s a huge part of their identity.

I also suspect there is a huge overlap between these people and the people who think ADHD is just laziness or depression is just self-indulgence. Some people can’t stand the idea of that medical intervention for anything other than obvious physical ailments like a broken leg - anything else is just lack of effort, apparently 🙄

Indeed. I remember reading an article with photos about Ulrike Jonsonn, how she'd aged and lost her 'freshness' as they put it.