Came off. Can't stop eating.

[Mrincredibull]

I know how this is going to go so before it starts please don't.
Have come off mounjaro. Happy with weight although not at target but just needed to be less tired (huge side effect) and couldn't really justify the money. Haven't made the necessary changes yet and expecting to put about 5 kg back on which I'm ok with. If I need to go back on in 6 months I'm ok with that but right now I need to take a break. But honestly I cannot stop eating. Like proper binge eating. Thought a protein shake might keep me full. Yep it does for 2-3 hours but that's it. Then I'm so hungry. Any tips for moderating food intake (yeah, not the way less move more brigade) and finding things to fill me up?
Can eat protein again now which I couldn't before so trying to concentrate my binge eating on that!!
I will get round to changing the food relationship but right now I have bigger fish to fry and that's ok. Baby steps.
Any recipes etc.
Thank you in advance.
I thought it might be helpful for more than just me to pool knowledge.

Eat less move more sorry. Autocorrect.

Unfortunately coming off before you’ve changed the food relationship is pointless. You need to have changed your mindset and behaviour to food to ‘survive’ coming off

High volume low calorie food. Im talking huge salads, huge plates of roasted veg, all with protein. Lots of water and lots of distractions for when you get most peckish (in the evenings for example)

You could try volume eating, eating lots of low cal veg and fruits like strawberries, blueberries, watermelon, and grapefruit alongside lean protein sources. Lots of water would probably help too. Some people like things like chia seeds and taking psyllium husk to help with feeling fuller for longer, but you do need to drink a lot of water with it.

Carrot batons and celery sticks.

You’re probably not actually hungry. Check your blood sugar.

Try no or very low carbing. Sugar spikes from carbs make you hungry. It takes a couple of weeks though to ‘get in the zone’ .

This really does work but it takes willpower at the beginning.

Have things like crustless quiches, chicken and high protein stuff. Have some fat in there too.

I find if you start the day well, you can keep it going. If carbs are eaten first thing you literally can't stop eating all day.

Good luck.

Ofcourse there will be a period of adaption. You didn’t say if you have titrated down slowly or suddenly stopped? What dose were you on?

I know I will struggle one day but the plan I wrote for myself:

1. come off MJ slowly (spaced out doses and reduce mg over time - at least one pen).
2. caffeine is an appetite suppressant but need more water if more coffee drunk
3. chillie is a appetite suppressant. Add it to food
4. fasting does limit food intake and often teaches me I will not starve!
5. Easier to make better food choices if I start right. Make the first meal good.
6. you need so much water!!!Drink more!!!! 💦
7. you need more protein and things that digest slower like soup, bolognaise, curry.
8. Sit with hunger feeling, get used to it, you will feel it again and have to use your brain to decide what to eat not your stomach which can not be relied on.
9. be accountable-have a treat, that’s fine, not every day though and do some exercise.
10. important - weigh daily. See and act fast with weight gain. Don’t ignore it and pretend it is not happening.

Not at goal,happy to put on close to a stone and not making the changes when you were on, is going to be very difficult for you to stop at the stone gain I think. You’re going to have to basically diet now. Because that’s what it will feel like. If there is any way you can manage it, I’d go back on for 3 months, use a low dose to make the changes, then taper down and try to keep to them. But honestly if you’re happy to regain the last 5 kgs and didn’t make any changes, it was just a waste of money, get back on, make the changes, the taper off. These are drugs you need to do correctly.

Honestly I regret ever going on Mounjaro. I was very overweight and needed to lose weight which I did but looking back prior to Mounjaro use I did not have relentless hunger, I had sugar cravings and poor blood sugar control. I could have probably managed that with changing my diet and supplements. I would have lost weight more slowly but I think it would have been more sustainable.

I just wanted to start losing the weight quickly and reliably in a certain time frame and I did that and I also dropped my sugary snacks and drinks and ate a lot more healthily but not long after I stopped mounjaro I started to experience this crazy unrelenting hunger that I seriously never had before, it is different from my sugar cravings and a lot harder to control and I was eating so much and gaining weight quickly. I did go back on Mounjaro but it feels less effective now and its really only keeping my weight stable and even that involves a lot of willpower. With the cost rises and the lack of efficacy I am not sure I can continue to justify or afford it but I know that anytime I delay or skip a dose the hunger comes back.

Your hunger is the same as before, you’re just not used to feeling it, I agree with you though,if you can’t afford to stay on and you can’t cope with the hunger/cravings/food noise like before, and none of us could, that’s why we were obese, then going on them is pointless. As you either need to stay on, or be committed to living the daily struggle off, the same struggle you always had.

I recommend the fast800 cook books or if you look up Fast800 online there are loads of free recipes. I used to eat a lot of the low cal dinners with practically a whole head of broccoli every night. I would bulk up omelettes with mushrooms and onions and a massive pile of leaves on the side. I agree fasting can help. I don’t tend to feel hungry until I’ve eaten so holding off eating in the morning until 11ish or even later helps a bit. Agree try to avoid sugar and carbs. Have a savoury breakfast if you can. Lots of luck - I’m dreading maintenance!

Can you distract yourself? I’m not saying you should move for the sake of it, but if I’m thinking of reaching for the biscuits, I try and walk round the block. No food there. I’ve been off it a month and am thinking about what I’m eating much more than before.

I really do feel it's different now, before I wasn't ever really hungry as such but I craved sugar so wanted a can of cola or chocolate but my basic meals were healthy. After mounjaro its like I would eat anything, I would stand in the kitchen and eat dry cereal from the box, I've even eaten dry oats. I'd have my dinner and then an hour later I'm back in the kitchen making toast, eating random bits from the fridge and cupboards and in the past I never really ate after my evening meal just a cuppa and a biscuit while watching TV, I was never hungry at night, after I'd go to bed and wake up in the middle of the night hungry. It's defiantly changed something. I regret it a lot because I didn't really have food noise before and I wasn't constantly hungry I just wanted something "sweet" frequently. Now I am genuinely hungry for anything all the time.

I was the same been off mounjaro for about 5 weeks and so hungry obsessing over food thinking about it constantly. Cracked a couple of nights ago and ordered wegovy. Since ordering it it’s like a switch has gone off in my head and I’m hardly thinking about it, it must be psychological with me. I did not make good changes and habits while on mounjaro and I really regret that. I knew this would happen when I came off but kept telling myself it wouldn’t be too bad.

Volume eating, prioritising protein and fibre, as low carb as possible. ‘LiftwSarah’ on IG an YouTube has some great ideas. I highly recommend her egg white oats.

High protein, lots of veg and water.
Try liquid berberine, it really helps with curbing the craving and suppressing appetite as I'm tapering down from 15 and down to 10 and feel hungrier now but it helps keep me in control.

What works for me is having loads of fruit available, my favourite snack is cheese with apples.
Filling foods like porridge, chicken, lots of veg (roasted for more flavour).
Keep crap out of the house, if you must have sugar diet drinks to satisfy the craving or having it in tea won't hurt too much or get digestives or low cal biscuits..limit yourself to 2 or 3 a day.

Get something around the house and make yourself exercise 4 x a week.
Whether it's a stepper, compact treadmill or just doing workouts and stretches in front of the TV or a walk on your lunchbreak. Keeping mobile and active even if it's not a massive weightloss can encourage a healthier mindset and choices as well as boost your mood.

I’ve been off the Jab for over 7 months now and I currently weigh 7lbs less than when I finished the jab. I gained weight initially because of the cravings but it all settled after 4 weeks and I’ve continued to lose weight slowly and steadily so I’m safely in the middle of an healthy BMI. Its all routine now.
I exercise 5 days a week from home and I try and do my food shop when I’m not hungry and because of this, I end up buying lots of healthy snacks for the house.
If I don’t have it, I can’t reach for it easily and that has been what’s helped. I didn’t stop snacking or craving snacks, I just eat healthy things when I want to snack, lots of fruits, salad and vegetables, I bulk my meals up with fruits and veggies too and they fill me up. With time, I got used to my new normal.
I drink lots of water, I reach for water first before snacking so I feel full quicker. When I went on holiday weeks ago, I was lax and ate too much so gained 3lbs but I lost it within 2 weeks and back to where I was. It was hard to switch back after the holiday because eating mindlessly whilst away without exercising made me crave sweet things so I fasted one day and it was like the reset I needed, especially when the holiday weight dropped. Good luck which ever way you decide to go.

What is your current TDEE?
how many calories are you eating?
what are you eating?
how much water are you drinking?

I have titrated down very slowly to 2.5 from 7.5. so the food noise was back but it's only after coming off completely that the roaring hunger has started. I really like the idea of a fasting reset.
Alot of it is grazing snacking - especially around the kids food.
And yes to the night hunger - it's like being pregnant.
Objectively and compared to mounjaro I'm not actually eating a huge amount -probably 2000 cals - but that's too much for me. I found protein made me ill on mounjaro so again I'm enjoying being able to eat more but there's probably too many carbs.
I didn't ever want to get to 'target weight' as for me I knew that would not be achievable long term and I'm ok with that. Its not a sprint it's a slow marathon as part of huge wider changes in my life- I'm just struggling right now and need to refocus.
Interestingly I've been wanting to exercise more - which I was too tired to do.
I am definitely not drinking enough water at all!
I wonder if having a very set diet would help - as in this is today's food and you cannot deviate from that.

I tried wegovy and it made me so fatigued I came off it after 2 weeks.

When I came off it I decided to cut out upf foods and used an app called Yuka which scans the bar code of food and tells you if the additives are risky or not etc.

When I started to eat more natural foods, and didn’t skip any meals, I found myself way less hungry than I used to be and craving less crap.

I found protein made me ill on mounjaro so again I'm enjoying being able to eat more but there's probably too many carbs.

Side effects of Mounjaro sounds awful for some people. It’s taken me ages to lose my 3 stone and I have one more stone to lose to get to my target weight but hearing this glad I did it /doing it without WLI.

How is your sleep Op? I find when I’m tired I’m more likely to have cravings for fatty and sugary food.

In terms of recipe there’s so much on Instagram and YouTube. I have heaps of saved recipes of high protein meals or “fakeaways”. One IG account I used to follow to get me started on my diet changes is called Bethany Dobson. She posts easy to make satiating recipes on a regular basis. I can’t remember the names of others tbh but there’s loads.

Read Jessie Inchauspe Glucose Revolution. Chris Van Tulekan and Michael Mosely.