Mounjaro & co: what is your plan for when you have to stop with the injections?

[Takemebacktospain]

Please explain to me the point of weight loss injections as if I am a 6 year old. I get that in many cases it helps people being obese or very overweight achieve a healthier body/weight and therefore a better health. That’s great. What I don’t get is, what is the plan long term? Surely you cannot be pn medication for the rest of your life? Or is that the plan? I genuinely am very ignorant about all this so would like to understand how it all works. It seems to me that a lot of people are abusing of it and juat choose this as an easy fix instead of working towards better life habits in the long term.

Have you read my post well?

Now you're claiming people with 2-3kgs to lose are using Mounjaro?

Come on now. Make some effort here.

The part where you referred exclusively to "obese and very overweight" people? They probably did, yes. Did you?

thats their problem surely? I dont know anyone who has done it for that , although i do think celebrities and rich people probably do.

OP nobody who has no skin in the game cares about what other people choose to do just because they’re better informed than you. I suspect you’re just not wanting to admit you are obese and are trying to decide what to do. There is no need to be embarrassed about your weight. Just your lack of knowledge.

They don’t force the weight off… you still have to be in a calorie deficit to lose the weight by eating less and moving more. They work by preventing hormones that make you obsessed with food and suppress appetite.

So people will have had to learn and make the changes to their life. Then they slowly titrate the dose down to slowly reintroduce hunger cues and cravings and learn to handle them phase by phase until they’re off the jabs completely.

I’m not touchy about weight loss injections. I’m not using them and I don’t need to use them because I am not overweight. But I would use a medication that I needed to use. And I wouldn’t ‘wonder’ what would happen to someone I knew who was taking a medication either because I know that people do take medications long term.

You did start a thread about how you were too thick to read a book. I didn’t start it so I don’t see why it is nasty.

And on this thread you have intimated numerous times that you ‘don’t get it’ and that people should explain things to you as if you are in infant.

Nor am I hiding behind a keyboard any more than you are. Right back at you with your comment is telling about the person behind the keyboard.

I don’t think you are ‘genuinely curious’ at all.

Possibly which is exactly why some people need to stay on for life.

there are a myriad of hunger signal, hormonal, endocrine reasons some people struggle with their weight if someone’s battling their genetics they may benefit from medication for life

Ah well this is where you have gone wrong. Many people need these meds for health reasons. So as you have said you don’t ponder what happens to people on meds for health reasons, now I’ve clarified, you can go on your merry way and not fret over this any more.

People do all kinds of things, but nobody can get this medication legitimately if they have a normal BMI and want to drop 2 kilos.
If you are talking about those kinds of people who will take questionable and risky steps purely for their looks, they probably do many other questionable things - I guess the answer here is that in their opinion, the risks are worth it?

I also think people misunderstand what it is to have a BMI of 30. Mine is 27 and I’m a size 10-12 and only a couple of kg overweight. If I was Asian that would make me classified as obese. I’m slightly overweight at that size as I’m white. My best friend has a BMI 30 and is a size 12. The threshold doesn’t mean only people who are 20stone can get it or that those who are below the UK average size are ‘cheating’ as they can very well be obese.

Also you say you don’t understand why people with a few kg to lose use it rather than obese people.

I have a BMI of 27. I am only about 4kg overweight. But if I was Asian, instead of white, that BMI would put me in the obese category. I am a size 10-12. My best friend has a BMI of 30, making her obese, but she is a size 12 and would be healthy weight again if she lost about 8-10kg.

Obese doesn’t just mean 20st OP. It can also mean 11st.

Surely OP, if you were genuinely curious, you would have just found out the information? I would recommend reading a bit about obesity and GLP1 meds before starting a thread next time, you risk making a complete tit of yourself when you betray this level of ignorance.

So I used it to lose around 10kg. I wasn’t “obese”.

My BMI was 27, I have PCOS. My mum is close to being diabetic. Since menopause I have struggled with weight gain. I also have high cholesterol.

I’ve struggled with food noise my whole life. I’m basically fatphobic, and tbh if I wasn’t I’d probably have had much more to lose.

i’m likely to microdose for life. I don’t have the energy to have constant food willpower, and if I allow myself to get overweight I’m very likely to develop type 2 diabetes.

An Asian woman who is 5 foot would be considered “obese” at 10 stone.

Just wondering if you have also posted this question on the slimming world, calorie counting and intermittent fasting boards as all of these diets carry the same risks of regain as weight loss injections?

I shall bang my head against the proverbial brick wall and answer your question. I’ll start by saying that I am a medical doctor. I started WLI with a BMI of 30 and I have done a huge amount of research into WLI and also obesity and insulin resistance - I have previously lost and regained weight with the methods above. I consider obesity to be a medical condition which can be life limiting. I believe eradicating obesity would save the NHS more money than any other public health measure available.

I have been on WLI for 5 months and am now a healthy BMI - I’m 3 lbs from the arbitrary goal I have set myself. At this point in previous weight loss journeys I’ve experienced ‘diet fatigue’ and have been restricting myself for so long that a back slide seemed inevitable. Five months into WLI I am happily eating healthily, not feeling restricted or deprived and looking forward to the future with optimism. My plan is to stay on MJ for perhaps another year - I will taper down to a very low dose while continuing to weigh myself daily. In doing this I hope to establish a new set point. During this year I plan to increase my exercise - I already exercise regularly but I hope to build more muscle to hopefully increase my metabolism. Most importantly I’m having therapy to look at my emotional / binge eating and I’ve signed up to a neurolonguistic programming course. I freely admit I can’t give these things the headspace they need while following an unmediated diet - my therapist said ‘there’s no point in building your life raft while the boat is sinking…’ MJ is keeping me afloat while I build my life raft - is suspect you don’t really want to hear any of this though and you want to judge me for my weakness and lack of willpower… judge away… I am week and I needed a drug to help me be slim and healthy… however I am now slim and healthy and for the first time ever I feel like I can see a way to staying that way.

Just wondering if you have also posted this question on the slimming world, calorie counting and intermittent fasting boards as all of these diets carry the same risks of regain as weight loss injections?

i find people don’t do that, because those diets are not as successful and of course unsustainable for most, so regain is a given for most. So they don’t care. They don’t care if you deprive yourself of carbs, or eat limitless pasta and call food a Syn, or starve yourself half the day. If you want to live like that crack on. Everyone knows you will break st some point.

the issue is people living their best lives and getting slim, with not feeling that deprivation, and the subsequent hope it will come back on.

because we are fat. And we deserve to stay fat. Right?

Some fat women are extremely touchy about this perfectly reasonable question.
Either answer or ignore as there are others who would like to know the answer without reading scientific papers.

But you don’t need to read scientific papers. It’s common sense. And how obnoxious, fat women aren’t touchy, everyone knows the answer, it’s all over most media sources and is common sense,

but here is the answer. For those who struggle.

the drugs can be a life long treatment if you chose.
you can also come off, if you chose.
no drug works when you don’t take it.
like any other diet, if you revert to old eating habits or eat more cals than you burn, then you will gain weight,
the long term plan is very individual. I will stay on, the drugs enable me to continue to eat a health balanced diet, ensure I produce enough insulin and manage my blood sugar levels. Others will come off.

hth,

Some fat women are completely fucked off with the assumption that their bodies are public property and up for discussion.

Hope that helps.

Think there's been some confusion, you appear to think it's your place to issue instructions.

Thank you, it's usually more valuable to hear personal experience.
And yes, if people are interested they shouldn't be lazy to do some basic research the rest of us are just curious

Gosh you really are at a six year olds level of communication, aren't you. Your agenda is as subtle as my six year old nieces as she gazes longingly at a bit of Easter egg, telling me she's sooooooo huuuuuungry.
You don't seem to understand that obesity is a 'real medical' issue? That's unfortunate as it does make it harder for the grown ups to explain things.
So, poppet, obesity is a disease. It affects the body in lots of different ways, sometimes even after the obese person has lost weight. It puts a person more at risk of other diseases that people aren't judged for having, like breast cancer or blood clots. These injections are obesity medicine and help people with obesity reduced their weight and improve their health. Some silly people think it's cheating or a quick fix for lazy fatties who should just eat less cake, but we mustn't judge them for not being very clever.