You shouldn't take weight loss drugs. Learn about healthy eating, eat less and exercise more.

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This is like telling an insomniac "don't take tablets, just get more sleep"

I'm 41.
I have tried.

I KNOW all about healthy eating. Probably more than most slim people.
I don't have an emotional/binge eating disorder, I just have a bigger appetite than most people. I can only control it so long via willpower or low-carb diets. The drive to eat is the most powerful instinct known to man (except maybe breathing)

It's the weight loss medication that takes the edge of said appetite and ALLOWS me the space to make sensible decisions on food.

I've gone from 15 stone to 9 stone (I'm short). If these drugs had been invented 20 years ago, my life would have been much better.

And no, I didn't steal the drugs off a diabetic. I got private prescriptions for Wegovy and then Mounjaro which are only marketed for weightloss.

And yes I am quite prepared to take the drug forever if necessary.

And no, I don't care about the "potential unknown long term side effects" because they can hardly be worse than what I was facing with obesity.

And although exercise is beneficial for many reasons, it is a fairly trivial factor in weightloss.

You are so wrong and clearly don't understand how these drugs work. They cannot just melt the fat off you while you gorge on chocolate. They cannot do that and they do not do that.

You still have to eat fewer calories. You still have to avoid UPFs. You still have to avoid sugar. But taking Mounjaro makes it easier to do these things.

Do you understand this? Honestly I feel like I'm explain this, over and over, to a non too bright 10 year old.

There’s food noise which we all have then there is food noise which a minority get (for whatever reason) and which leads to overeating and obesity.

Mine is likely due to ADHDADD and a childhood of trauma.

I know all about healthy eating and exercise.

Exercise is great but does not quieten food noise.

I also care for a disabled adult son and also hold down a job,

this week I have finally taken a first dose of Mounjaro. I’ve no idea if it will help me but I’m prepared to give it a go,

if the side effects are awful I will stop after one month bit given the issues I’ve had in life I’d be mad not to at least try it.

Antibiotics aren't only used for major open wounds and appendicitis. Didn't you know that?

I agree, these weight loss injections sound amazing and everyone should have access to them if they want, including people who are a healthy bmi but would like to lose weight for vanity reasons. For example, I am a healthy bmi through sheer willpower (I love food but don’t want to be overweight so I deprive myself) but I would love to be a stone or so lighter and it sounds like this drug could help me achieve that, so I think I should be allowed access to it too.

Put someone with a large gash on their leg or appendicitis in a room and they will die.

Neither of these require antibiotics by default assuming no bacterial infection. Your grasp on medicine is as tenuous as your understanding of semaglutide

Also a leg wound doesn’t equal death.

Likely when supply chains ramp up you’ll also be able to buy it or a form of it.

Yes, she is.

I don't see much of her now as she works long hours, but the irony is that the last couple of times I have seen her, she definitely looks to have gained weight. I have been with other people at the time, and they agree with me.

Oh dear. Yes both of those things left untreated will probably lead to death partially the appendicitis. A ruptured appendix always pretty much leads to death without antibiotics

Got me wondering though- not sure if it’s just on here by using fancy words to put others down makes you think you are superior, or if it’s in RL too.

Wft? Bonkers response. 🤣
Cats like to pee on grass as well as soil a don’t you know that?

Obesity left untreated will probably lead to death.

The only person trying to put people down is you.

AGirlInACountrySong · Yesterday 14:22

DysonSphere · Yesterday 14:19
Are you prepared to buy privately forever?
Or are you expecting it on the NHS?
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Do you not know (or read) its private prescription

Not for diabetics. My husband has a prescription. Benefits but not plain sailing. Lots of unpleasant digestive issues. Something that shouldn’t be taken lightly without medical advice.

I’m horrified that people with just a few stubborn kilos to lose are able to access this stuff on the internet. Not to be toyed with.

I see that whitelily1 repeatedly ignores my request that she explain why people should suffer and struggle to lose weight.

@MrsSkylerWhite that poster was pointing out that I said in my OP that I get it on private prescription.

I don't understand the handwringing tone of "get this stuff on the internet". A doctor employed by Boots the Chemist online pharmacy prescribes it for me. Not exactly stuff worthy of a scene from Trainspotting is it!

I actually agree with people who think it needs to be more regulated and shouldn't be available online until you've seen an actual GP, in person and medical history should be taken into consideration.

I'm all for people using it if they need it. The risks of drugs are far smaller than the risks of obesity and if it works for you and you need to lose weight, great. You should be able to get it but it is an anorexic's dream. Someone who has a history of ED should not be able to get it easily and they can. In all fairness, if they're currently overweight they can also get weight loss aids from the GP with relative ease, when they shouldn't be able to, but at least that is supervised in person. If their weight goes too low, or they lose weight concerningly rapdily, they cannot lie their way out of it as easily as if they were buying online.

I can see your point. However, do you see the problem with that thinking.

Obese people are in danger from dying because of their disordered eating.

Anorexic people are in danger of dying because of their disordered eating.

So let’s make it more difficult for obese people to legitimately get it, to protect people with anorexia getting hold of it illegitimately.

It’s a bias against obese people. The thought that people on the too thin end of the spectrum. People who are too thin need protecting at the expense of people who are too fat.

Yes when I see 'get this stuff on the internet' my eyes roll so hard it gives me a headache.

Of course, what we actually do is buy a thoroughly researched medicine from reputable, bona fide on line pharmacies, dispensed by fully qualified pharmacists.

But that doesn't sound nearly enough salacious or sordid does it.

Anorexics abuse laxatives. You don't have to go in person to buy those.

The problem of obesity far far far outweighs (!) the problem of anorexia. We can't keep EVERYONE safe all the time.

One has to consider the dignity of obese people. Forcing us into the GP's surgery to be weighed/measured and no doubt have them wag their finger at us and ask if we've ever thought of cutting our portion sizes, eating more veg and going for a walk. Having to justify why we need these injections. All that will do is discourage obese people from seeking help.

Let us (using photo ID or whatever) order the drug in the privacy of our own home with an online form.

@Arraminta agree. It's the combination of "ordering it on the internet" and it being an injected drug rather than a tablet that has the homeopathic types clutching their pearls in horror.

A pp also referred to "injecting chemicals into the body" as if it's bleach or something!

Yes, they like to think we're 'shooting up' with rogue drugs, preferably in a dingy alley behind Lidl.

It couldn't be further from the truth. My Mounjaro is from a fully accredited on line pharmacy and I keep it in my smart fridge next to the Waitrose sliced watermelon and my expensive Symprove Pro Biotics.

I don't think it should be "difficult" for anyone to get if they need it and I certainly don't think anyone should be made to feel less than or be treated without dignity, I just don't think we have the balance quite right with the ease it is available and the medical supervision for those using it.

Yes, anorexics abuse laxatives. They also abuse phentermine, ephedrine, Alli, amphetamines and anything else they can get their hands on to control appetite and weight loss. They will also find a way to get Semagultide, whether it is by going via Boots or the dark web, but making it easier to do so means they are more likely to abuse it, from a younger age, than something they have to go to the dark web for, because it feels safer to them.

I know!

I also get my antidepressants and thyroid meds "on the internet". My antidepressants were prescribed following an online consultation with my NHS GP, I've never seen anyone in person about them.

My thyroid meds are prescribed following a blood test taken by a trained HCP, and reviewed by a pharmacist. I've also never actually seen a GP about those...

@Arraminta I should have known you were posh just from your name!

I keep my MJ pen in the bottom drawer of the fridge with my fruit and veg. Oh sorry, I mean I keep it next to my massive tubs of junk food that I scoff with gay abandon because I can just use this drug as a quick fix!

I can't believe people are still arguing against people taking medication to make their lives better.

It's not a moral issue, it's a medical issue. It's no business of anyone else's if someone needs medication.

Fair play to you op.

I think these drugs are a great invention and if they don't cause any long term side effects then people should be able to stay on them indefinitely.

Losing weight is hard, the food noise is real and can be really hard to switch off. Plus exercising whilst good for you can leave you starving.

This last week I've been so hungry because I've been running so much. I started tracking my calories but just gave up and just ate for England. I've probably been consuming too many calories but I know I can pull it back, especially once my race is done and the running gets less. For others it's not that easy and if these drugs help them stay at a healthy weight and don't cause long term effects then they should stay on them indefinitely.

For some food addiction is real and it's something so hard to get out of because of the fact we need to eat. Being addicted to gambling, alcohol or whatever is something you can cut out of your life but with food you just can't do that.