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Seating plan issue

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Puglover287 · 13/06/2022 20:59

Hi all,
I’m getting married in two months and I’ve got to finalise the seating plan to send off to the venue and the designer doing our stationary by the end of the week.
My fiancée’s (DF) mum has remarried so on the Top Table we have me and DF, my parents, DF’s parents and best man (bridesmaids are sat with their partners on other tables). The one potential issue we have is regarding DF’s younger brother (8). We have seated him with his dad (DF’s Stepdad), with other family including DF’s other younger brother, on the table closest to us. The youngest brother is not well behaved and is very used to getting his own way. Whenever we visit their house, we are all told where to sit. Whenever we go out for family meals (such as this past weekend), he decides who is to sit where. Even if people arrive to a meal before him, they are made to move. Everyone is told by DF’s mum and stepdad to do as he says as he will otherwise get angry, upset or have a meltdown. He has been known to physically push or pull people if they are seated and don’t move to where he wants them to.
Typically, he wants to sit by me and my DF, and I usually put up with this as the parents ask me to to prevent a meltdown, however it tends to be hard work and he doesn’t give me a minute (e.g. takes my food from my plate, puts his on mine, drinks my drink, puts stuff in my drink, cuts over me if I’m speaking to others and tells me to stop speaking to other people, rubs his mouth on my shoulders after eating instead of using a napkin etc). I put up with it usually to keep the peace but I really don’t want this on my wedding day as it is quite exhausting, and he has dirtied or ruined clothes of mine in the past or left me having to order new drinks or food after he’s spoilt it. I tend not to go to family meals anymore because it’s too much.
I am just concerned that he will kick off and possibly have a meltdown (which can be violent) if he isn’t allowed to sit with me and DF. I would love to say I could speak to DF’s mum and stepdad about this but they enable this behaviour, and they will just expect that we give in to him and force us to move him to the Top Table next to us.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to deal with this? I have already made all children attending a goodie bag for the table but I’m not sure it will be sufficient as he’s so used to getting his own way.

Also, it may already be obvious but I don’t have children of my own although there are plenty of others coming and I don’t know any others who behave like this really, so hard to know how to broach it.

OP posts:
UrsulaPandress · 13/06/2022 21:02

Your husband to be has a word with his mother.

Orangio · 13/06/2022 21:06

Your fiance should handle it as it's his family and better coming from him. I suggest he says something like, we've finalised the seating plan.. would you like to see where you're all sitting on the day? Gives them advance notice that they will need to control the kid.
Stick to your guns if they quarrel. You don't need a reason other than 'its our day and we're just having parents and best man on the top table. That's what we've decided'.
This is a good time to exercise your backbone for the future. Sounds like you'll need it.

dreamyunicorn · 13/06/2022 21:16

How old is this boy?

Sounds awful and after the wedding you need to set boundaries with him/ the parents.

For the wedding pp idea of letting know in advance is a good idea and I'd suggest that if he moves you will be asking his mum to come get him back etc.

Gazelda · 13/06/2022 21:17

Either give them an advance copy of the seating plan (for information NOT for discussion) or seat him with his parents and you have a table for two at the head of the room. I think they're called a sweetheart table, which would be a bit too twee for me, and I'd miss the interaction with others at the meal. Difficult choice.

FairFuming · 13/06/2022 21:21

Has he got any special needs or the like? If not it's absolutely terrible that an 8 year old is allowed to wipe his dirty face all over other people. My youngest child is 3 and he doesn't even get to do that to me now because that's unacceptable and is not tolerated.
I agree that your DF needs to speak to them and tell them that the seating plan is not negotiable. I'd maybe offer to sit your MIL with the rest of her family if it's easier for them to manage their child that way

lady725516 · 13/06/2022 21:22

This is awful behaviour! I'm not surprised you're feeling a bit anxious.
Your boyfriend needs to deal with this firmly. If the boy kicks off at the meal, he is to be removed by his parents. They need to take control of his behaviour. He's 8 not 2 Hmm

lady725516 · 13/06/2022 21:23

This is awful behaviour! I'm not surprised you're feeling a bit anxious.
Your boyfriend needs to deal with this firmly. If the boy kicks off at the meal, he is to be removed by his parents. They need to take control of his behaviour. He's 8 not 2 

Puglover287 · 13/06/2022 22:32

Thanks everyone. I’ve just spoken with fiancée who has said he will show suggested seating plan of MIL with us on Top Table and 8yo with his dad. However, we will also suggest that if they’d prefer to sit as a family that would be okay too, but that he cannot sit at the Top Table. I don’t want to offend anyone in the run up to the wedding but I also don’t want a big drama on the day due to this.
Also, he does additional needs (not ADHD or ASD as he’s been assessed very recently) but he has never been told no/redirected or had it explained to him that adults don’t like being bossed around. He has his own way in every situation regardless of how it impacts others and he’s allowed to act how he pleases e.g. be violent, shout, scream, cry. There are no boundaries and no consequences for his actions. As I say, we’re all told by his parents to do what he wants/let him do what he wants in front of him, so it’s not his fault. It’s very hard to know how to respond or react in these situations as he’s not our child. He is however very vocal and quick to tell you if you do something he doesn’t like or doesn’t want you to do.

OP posts:
Soontobe60 · 14/06/2022 06:42

I’d be sitting him with his father on a table near to a door, so that if he behaves in the way you’ve described, his father can remove him with minimal fuss. Your fiancé needs to have a word with his father beforehand and pre warn him.

dreamyunicorn · 14/06/2022 07:59

He is 8????!!!!!!

Omg I completely missed the age i was expecting 4 or 5!!

This it awful op, hope the mil / fil sort him on your wedding day.

Lollypop701 · 14/06/2022 08:29

Just no and his parents need to tell you up front they will deal with it

Marblessolveeverything · 14/06/2022 08:48

That sounds challenging. Just reading the update - the reality is providing boundaries helps reassure children of their place (not in a negative way) but in a reducing anxiety way. I think the approach you have taken is fair - I hope the day goes well, assign others to the role of managing him and relax knowing that any hic cup will be managed by others discretely.

WingingItEveryDay7 · 14/06/2022 09:10

You must absolutely have the seating plan how you want it and if they don't like it then they don't have to attend. Definitely a conversation for your DF to have though!!

For our wedding, our top table was just me, husband, best man and maid of honour. We sat everyone else on set tables as both sides of the family were separated and remarried so it was just easier. Is this an option you both might be open to?

Congratulations BTW and enjoy your special day!! x

Kite22 · 17/06/2022 18:16

Don't change things away from how you want them, due to this boy's behaviour!!

Get your DH2B to have a very clear conversation with his parents and say that - as is usual at weddings, there will be a seating plan, and that is where everyone will be expected to sit.
If they don't think that their dc can manage that, then the other option is for them to come without him.

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